Has anyone heard the latest on the miners this morning? They are willing to interview as a group only and they're asking big bucks. They mentioned "millions".
One other thing to point out. 1 million divided by 33 = $33,300 ea. If the story goes for $5M, then it's $151,000 each. I'm not sure that is enough to retire on in Chile but it is a nice chunk of change that can hopefully improve their families lives and ensure they will never have to climb into a hole in the ground again.
It's being "opportunistic" to your surroundings ... and ironically, it's exactly why there's a mining company in Chile with poor working standards thriving.
I don't know if it is greed. Their story has intrigued the world and money is going to be made off of it, even if the miners take an oath of silence. Whichever media hub gets the first interview is going to make a ton of money off of ads. Just think of how many eyeballs around the world were watching them get pulled out of the earth on live feeds.
Why is it wrong for the miners to get their cut of the story . . . it is about their lives and trials.
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Has anyone heard the latest on the miners this morning? They are willing to interview as a group only and they're asking big bucks. They mentioned "millions".
One other thing to point out. 1 million divided by 33 = $33,300 ea. If the story goes for $5M, then it's $151,000 each. I'm not sure that is enough to retire on in Chile but it is a nice chunk of change that can hopefully improve their families lives and ensure they will never have to climb into a hole in the ground again.
Weren't they making about $3/hr in their jobs? If so, $33,300 ea would still be over 4 years or work. Not bad. Personally, I think they will get more.
If this happened in the US, there would be a huge lawsuit as well.
Why is it wrong for the miners to get their cut of the story . . . it is about their lives and trials.
Do you really think asking for millions of dollars is "reasonable" though?
I don't think reasonable is the issue. If the public wants to know, someone will pay the amount. If no one wants to know, then they won't get anything. Before they were trapped, they were low guys on a totem pole, working so someone ELSE could make lots of money off them, and they have gone through something absolutely dreadful, that I'm sure all of us hope to never go through. (Even the thought of that ride up in that 'capsule' sounds pretty awful to me) They may be changed forever. And now they get to call a few shots. Why not? I say charge what you want guys.
R.i.p. Rigoberto Alpizar.
R.i.p. My Dad - May 28, 2007
R.i.p. Black Tail (cat) - Sept. 20, 2008
Has anyone heard the latest on the miners this morning? They are willing to interview as a group only and they're asking big bucks. They mentioned "millions".
I just think that being thankful you made it out alive wouldn't equate to money...lots of it. I'm a bit disappointed. The reason they went in was to make a living...I don't equate that with greed, at all. Miners take many risks to work their jobs, and may not know how to do anything else.
Yeah, I'm disappointed too... to hear that.
But I also have to agree, you can't compare making a living to that.
Perhaps there is a buffet of jobs where we come from but for those men they don't have a choice how to feed their families. I don't understand where greed comes in, at least at that part.
That's fine and their choice to do so, but just as they are/were exploited workers to get low wages for a dangerous job, they are not exploiting the situation for their favor. It's the same action in the opposite direction.
I don't think reasonable is the issue. If the public wants to know, someone will pay the amount. If no one wants to know, then they won't get anything. Before they were trapped, they were low guys on a totem pole, working so someone ELSE could make lots of money off them, and they have gone through something absolutely dreadful, that I'm sure all of us hope to never go through. (Even the thought of that ride up in that 'capsule' sounds pretty awful to me) They may be changed forever. And now they get to call a few shots. Why not? I say charge what you want guys.
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Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
That's fine and their choice to do so, but just as they are/were exploited workers to get low wages for a dangerous job, they are not exploiting the situation for their favor. It's the same action in the opposite direction.
So what? They are under no obligation to tell anyone anything.
R.i.p. Rigoberto Alpizar.
R.i.p. My Dad - May 28, 2007
R.i.p. Black Tail (cat) - Sept. 20, 2008
You're missing my point - I never said it was good, bad or anything... I merely stated as an outsider spectator of the situation, I find it rather ironic that many who would find the exploitation of their work bad, but think the exploitation for their benefit is ok in the other direction. It's full circle.
That's fine and their choice to do so, but just as they are/were exploited workers to get low wages for a dangerous job, they are not exploiting the situation for their favor. It's the same action in the opposite direction.
So what? They are under no obligation to tell anyone anything.
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Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Not sure if this has been posted, but the Miners are asking 20 million, for a collective story.
More power to them- if celebrities are paid millions of dollars for exclusive photos of there private lives, then why can't average hard working people get paid too.... Besides, these guys looked death in face, do you really think they care what other people think?
Not sure if this has been posted, but the Miners are asking 20 million, for a collective story.
More power to them- if celebrities are paid millions of dollars for exclusive photos of there private lives, then why can't average hard working people get paid too.... Besides, these guys look death in face, do you really think they care what people think?
I haven't been following this thread, so you might have posted why you feel the way you do..... but in my Opinion they should be paid off. They were making 1000 dollars a month, not sure if that is good money in Chile, but if your risking your life, then it better be good money......
20 million divided by 33 is only 600,000- after fees and what not, they'll probably get 500,000 a piece- So that's like an insurance pay out.
I hope someone pays the money ---- I rather see their faces on magazine racks, instead of the Jersey Shore cast!
I haven't been following this thread, so you might have posted why you feel the way you do..... but in my Opinion they should be paid off. They were making 1000 dollars a month, not sure if that is good money in Chile, but if your risking your life, then it better be good money......
20 million divided by 33 is only 600,000- after fees and what not, they'll probably get 500,000 a piece- So that's like an insurance pay out.
I hope someone pays the money ---- I rather see their faces on magazine racks, instead of the Jersey Shore cast!
It's just turning into a circus. What a champion effort by humanity to get these minors up, and now they're requesting big bucks in return. The media is having a field day and people are glued to their tv sts. CIRCUS.
I was in a near fatal accident in February, in critical condition for 4 days and my docs tell me that I was at death's doorstep. Do I owe my docs? Should I get attention for being saved and in turn ask for publicity money? One false move and these minors could have died too. And now their celebrities. I just fail to see the correlation of nearly dying and asking for money in return!
It's simply exploitation of the situation.. being opportunistic in a direct manner for your own personal gain can be good, but at some point can be a negative side or even greedy. As for "celebrity', in our society, people now are famous for doing nothing of substance, value or even merit/hard work... this is no different.
It's just turning into a circus. What a champion effort by humanity to get these minors up, and now they're requesting big bucks in return. The media is having a field day and people are glued to their tv sts. CIRCUS.
I was in a near fatal accident in February, in critical condition for 4 days and my docs tell me that I was at death's doorstep. Do I owe my docs? Should I get attention for being saved and in turn ask for publicity money? One false move and these minors could have died too. And now their celebrities. I just fail to see the correlation of nearly dying and asking for money in return!
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
It's simply exploitation of the situation.. being opportunistic in a direct manner for your own personal gain can be good, but at some point can be a negative side or even greedy. As for "celebrity', in our society, people now are famous for doing nothing of substance, value or even merit/hard work... this is no different.
I felt so good about this rescue but it has slipped into exploitation very fast. And I can't help but believe someone is urging the miners to collectively demand the big bucks.
I'm not surprised at all. Certainly don't mean this directed at you or something, but they weren't on tv to begin with because it was a feel good story, they were on tv because it was entertainment for viewers to tune into. Many may take the "feel good" aspect away from it, but everyone on tv is simply for entertainment and to keep viewers tuned in. And in all honesty, I'm not shocked by them looking for money and in today's world, I don't really blame them. People try and capitalize on everything and it's their 15 minutes of fame.
I felt so good about this rescue but it has slipped into exploitation very fast. And I can't help but believe someone is urging the miners to collectively demand the big bucks.
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
I'm not surprised at all. Certainly don't mean this directed at you or something, but they weren't on tv to begin with because it was a feel good story, they were on tv because it was entertainment for viewers to tune into. Many may take the "feel good" aspect away from it, but everyone on tv is simply for entertainment and to keep viewers tuned in. And in all honesty, I'm not shocked by them looking for money and in today's world, I don't really blame them. People try and capitalize on everything and it's their 15 minutes of fame.
I felt so good about this rescue but it has slipped into exploitation very fast. And I can't help but believe someone is urging the miners to collectively demand the big bucks.
well they wont be going under ground again will they . now its happened in bloody china ill bet they arent out so soon and they defiantly wont be make money when they do come up to the surface but thats china for you
Why is it wrong for the miners to get their cut of the story . . . it is about their lives and trials.
Do you really think asking for millions of dollars is "reasonable" though?
If the media are happy to pay it that says to me the media will profit from their story, so why shouldnt they profit themselves.
its ok for the media to jump over these stories, and the reason they do is for profit. not for some ethical thought of sharing news stoies.
so why shouldnt they the people stuck down the mine for that time profit from their own experiences
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Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Weren't they making about $3/hr in their jobs? If so, $33,300 ea would still be over 4 years or work. Not bad. Personally, I think they will get more.
If this happened in the US, there would be a huge lawsuit as well.
I don't think reasonable is the issue. If the public wants to know, someone will pay the amount. If no one wants to know, then they won't get anything. Before they were trapped, they were low guys on a totem pole, working so someone ELSE could make lots of money off them, and they have gone through something absolutely dreadful, that I'm sure all of us hope to never go through. (Even the thought of that ride up in that 'capsule' sounds pretty awful to me) They may be changed forever. And now they get to call a few shots. Why not? I say charge what you want guys.
R.i.p. My Dad - May 28, 2007
R.i.p. Black Tail (cat) - Sept. 20, 2008
But I also have to agree, you can't compare making a living to that.
Perhaps there is a buffet of jobs where we come from but for those men they don't have a choice how to feed their families. I don't understand where greed comes in, at least at that part.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
So what? They are under no obligation to tell anyone anything.
R.i.p. My Dad - May 28, 2007
R.i.p. Black Tail (cat) - Sept. 20, 2008
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
More power to them- if celebrities are paid millions of dollars for exclusive photos of there private lives, then why can't average hard working people get paid too.... Besides, these guys looked death in face, do you really think they care what other people think?
Hope they get the 20 million or more!
Bleh. Major disappointment.
I haven't been following this thread, so you might have posted why you feel the way you do..... but in my Opinion they should be paid off. They were making 1000 dollars a month, not sure if that is good money in Chile, but if your risking your life, then it better be good money......
20 million divided by 33 is only 600,000- after fees and what not, they'll probably get 500,000 a piece- So that's like an insurance pay out.
I hope someone pays the money ---- I rather see their faces on magazine racks, instead of the Jersey Shore cast!
It's just turning into a circus. What a champion effort by humanity to get these minors up, and now they're requesting big bucks in return. The media is having a field day and people are glued to their tv sts. CIRCUS.
I was in a near fatal accident in February, in critical condition for 4 days and my docs tell me that I was at death's doorstep. Do I owe my docs? Should I get attention for being saved and in turn ask for publicity money? One false move and these minors could have died too. And now their celebrities. I just fail to see the correlation of nearly dying and asking for money in return!
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
I felt so good about this rescue but it has slipped into exploitation very fast. And I can't help but believe someone is urging the miners to collectively demand the big bucks.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
well they wont be going under ground again will they . now its happened in bloody china ill bet they arent out so soon and they defiantly wont be make money when they do come up to the surface but thats china for you
If the media are happy to pay it that says to me the media will profit from their story, so why shouldnt they profit themselves.
its ok for the media to jump over these stories, and the reason they do is for profit. not for some ethical thought of sharing news stoies.
so why shouldnt they the people stuck down the mine for that time profit from their own experiences