chillian miners

guypjfreakguypjfreak Posts: 2,281
edited October 2010 in A Moving Train
its amazing wot they can do when pressured .
if only there safety precautions where as good then this may never have happened but now that they have reached them i hope nothing now goes wrong and they are all brought up safely :)
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  • youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,576
    guypjfreak wrote:
    its amazing wot they can do when pressured .
    if only there safety precautions where as good then this may never have happened but now that they have reached them i hope nothing now goes wrong and they are all brought up safely :)

    Aren't they from Chile? Or are we talking a different thing?
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  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    Yeah I'm pretty sure they are talking about Chile.

    Can you imagine what the famlies felt when they brought up that note that the miners wrote?
    I mean, knowing that your loved one was in a mining disaster, thinking they're dead and then 2 weeks later finding out they are alive and well trapped under the surface! It's nuts...

    This is really an incredible story...
    I read somewhere that the trip down takes 1.5 hours and they have to extract them 1 by 1
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  • guypjfreakguypjfreak Posts: 2,281
    haffajappa wrote:
    Yeah I'm pretty sure they are talking about Chile.

    Can you imagine what the famlies felt when they brought up that note that the miners wrote?
    I mean, knowing that your loved one was in a mining disaster, thinking they're dead and then 2 weeks later finding out they are alive and well trapped under the surface! It's nuts...

    This is really an incredible story...
    I read somewhere that the trip down takes 1.5 hours and they have to extract them 1 by 1
    :lol::lol: i swear it she they were Mexico it shall be changed .that will teach me not to preview and check first :lol:
    but it IS amazing wot can be achieved in two weeks i bet they would not have been so quick if they were dead :!:
  • nuffingmannuffingman Posts: 3,014
    Let's hope they all get out safely but I think some of them would rather stay where they are. :lol:

    Trapped Chile miners emerge to fame, movie contracts - and angry wives
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... wives.html
  • guypjfreakguypjfreak Posts: 2,281
    nuffingman wrote:
    Let's hope they all get out safely but I think some of them would rather stay where they are. :lol:

    Trapped Chile miners emerge to fame, movie contracts - and angry wives
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... wives.html
    :lol::lol: there going to make a film aren't they :lol: no more down the mines for them i feel
  • JaneNYJaneNY Posts: 4,438
    What a story this is. I hope everyone gets out safely. It is still a long ride to the surface, and so many people must make the trip.
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  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    i think they said it will take about 33hrs to get everyone out once they start the elevator thingie
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  • youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,576
    nuffingman wrote:
    Let's hope they all get out safely but I think some of them would rather stay where they are. :lol:

    Trapped Chile miners emerge to fame, movie contracts - and angry wives
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... wives.html

    Off the subject, but funniest avatar ever. :lol::lol:
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  • nuffingmannuffingman Posts: 3,014
    youngster wrote:
    nuffingman wrote:
    Let's hope they all get out safely but I think some of them would rather stay where they are. :lol:

    Trapped Chile miners emerge to fame, movie contracts - and angry wives
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... wives.html

    Off the subject, but funniest avatar ever. :lol::lol:
    It does seem to be popular! :lol:
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    i read about this a while ago, the miners have been trapped underground for at least a month. its great they got them out.


    and yes this better lead to higher safety standards.
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    I heard on the news that they are taking advice from NASA and putting them on liquid diets because the ride up will make them quite nauseous
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  • nuffingmannuffingman Posts: 3,014
    Apparently the rescue attempt will begin at midnight. Let's hope it goes well.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-11518015
  • guypjfreakguypjfreak Posts: 2,281
    not sure of all your time zones 7 up so far fantastic some good news to start the day
    happy Wednesday all :D:D
  • nuffingmannuffingman Posts: 3,014
    guypjfreak wrote:
    not sure of all your time zones 7 up so far fantastic some good news to start the day
    happy Wednesday all :D:D
    I've been watching some of it this morning. Great news for once. The dumb politicians are pushed to the back for once.
  • 13 safely up so far.

    don't it make you smile?
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Ok so I tend not to pay attention to these types of stories, mostly because I don't care about them, but here comes my cold viewpoint about it. Yes it's great they were rescued, but why must people call it a disaster or something surprising? Mining miles under ground does lead to these types of problems, and the workers, companies and families all know the risks prior to going in. Seems like people love to make excuses after the fact when something goes bad but hold no real sense of self-determination and culpability before or during. It goes with the territory and albeit unfortunate, there's a very simple answer to these types of problems.. if you don't want the potential issues and results, don't participate in the activity - even if it's a job. I'm sure many will say it's for their family or survival, etc.. but the reality is that it is a choice these people are making and they choose it.. not forced into it.
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  • Cree NationsCree Nations Posts: 2,247
    This is one of the best feel good stories of the 21st century thus far.....why? IMO 9 out of 10 times any type of mining accident tends to end up with the some of.....if not all of the miners sadly...dying. Not in this case. These poor guys(33 of them living in a 5m x 10 m space) have been 700m's under the earth for 2 months.....2 MONTHS! That is insane AND they are pretty much all going to make it? Whats cool about this also is the amount of data they are gathering and learning from. Many miners in the future will benefit from what is happening there
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  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    I think you're comments are meant well, but a bit naive. It's more likely they'll learn from it and create a false sense of security in a severely dangerous industry and job compared to get rid of the problem. Anything for a buck.
    This is one of the best feel good stories of the 21st century thus far.....why? IMO 9 out of 10 times any type of mining accident tends to end up with the some of.....if not all of the miners sadly...dying. Not in this case. These poor guys(33 of them living in a 5m x 10 m space) have been 700m's under the earth for 2 months.....2 MONTHS! That is insane AND they are pretty much all going to make it? Whats cool about this also is the amount of data they are gathering and learning from. Many miners in the future will benefit from what is happening there
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • Cree NationsCree Nations Posts: 2,247
    lol ..for sure but one can only hope for something positive to come out of a negative situation, you may call that naivety but I call you pessimistic....;)
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  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Nah I'm a realist although many mistake that for pessimism.
    lol ..for sure but one can only hope for something positive to come out of a negative situation, you may call that naivety but I call you pessimistic....;)
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • JaneNYJaneNY Posts: 4,438
    And the last rescuer is up safely. Mision cumplida Chile. Nice job. And what a relief. I've been pretty much glued to live footage as much as I could the last 24 hours.
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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    you may be the only person to be blaming the miners for the situation they were in.





    how about the company that employed them? they are responsible yeah? poor safety standards, etc.



    the president was talking about making deals with unions in all industries, because of this, agriculture, manufacturing, on down the line.....to increase safety in all industries. something positive will come from this
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Ok so I tend not to pay attention to these types of stories, mostly because I don't care about them, but here comes my cold viewpoint about it. Yes it's great they were rescued, but why must people call it a disaster or something surprising? Mining miles under ground does lead to these types of problems, and the workers, companies and families all know the risks prior to going in. Seems like people love to make excuses after the fact when something goes bad but hold no real sense of self-determination and culpability before or during. It goes with the territory and albeit unfortunate, there's a very simple answer to these types of problems.. if you don't want the potential issues and results, don't participate in the activity - even if it's a job. I'm sure many will say it's for their family or survival, etc.. but the reality is that it is a choice these people are making and they choose it.. not forced into it.
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Ok so I tend not to pay attention to these types of stories, mostly because I don't care about them, but here comes my cold viewpoint about it. Yes it's great they were rescued, but why must people call it a disaster or something surprising? Mining miles under ground does lead to these types of problems, and the workers, companies and families all know the risks prior to going in. Seems like people love to make excuses after the fact when something goes bad but hold no real sense of self-determination and culpability before or during. It goes with the territory and albeit unfortunate, there's a very simple answer to these types of problems.. if you don't want the potential issues and results, don't participate in the activity - even if it's a job. I'm sure many will say it's for their family or survival, etc.. but the reality is that it is a choice these people are making and they choose it.. not forced into it.
    Jeezy Chrizzy, some people can't put things aside and just feel happiness apparently!
    This is an awesome story!

    It's not like we all don't support the industry, you can't help the people just trying to make a living.
    Unless you have a thing against pennies and electricity...
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  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    FiveB247x wrote:
    ...but why must people call it a disaster or something surprising? ..

    Because as the mine collapsed it was a disaster. There was not much hope of finding anyone alive. Then the surprising bit? When ALL of the miners were safe and well and then follows the awesomeness of their resilience and subsequent rescue.

    We all know dangers of mining and whatever techonology available, it will never be 100% safe. But someone has to do the job. That's what the people have in that area, that's what they do. Most of them won't have that much choice.

    I think a lot of good has already come out of this affair (cooperation, community spirit) and I'm sure a lot more will (from a mining and industrial safety point of view).
  • ONCE DEVIDEDONCE DEVIDED Posts: 1,131
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Ok so I tend not to pay attention to these types of stories, mostly because I don't care about them, but here comes my cold viewpoint about it. Yes it's great they were rescued, but why must people call it a disaster or something surprising? Mining miles under ground does lead to these types of problems, and the workers, companies and families all know the risks prior to going in. Seems like people love to make excuses after the fact when something goes bad but hold no real sense of self-determination and culpability before or during. It goes with the territory and albeit unfortunate, there's a very simple answer to these types of problems.. if you don't want the potential issues and results, don't participate in the activity - even if it's a job. I'm sure many will say it's for their family or survival, etc.. but the reality is that it is a choice these people are making and they choose it.. not forced into it.

    the death of anyone is a disaster for their families and loved ones
    the death of 33 would be as well
    so the rescue of all is fantastic story. a victory over the elements.
    with your view piont its not a disaster or eveen sad as they knew what they were getting into. Yep loooks like lots of choice of work in those regions , lots of choice of work NOT
    with your viepiont people who die in car accidents are not tragic, they knew the risks
    etc etc etc
    hey dont touch your computer to respond, its electrical and you know what could possably go wrong
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  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Let's not pretend this occurrence was a surprise as it wasn''t anything more than common practice in the industry which had a happy ending. I for one an happy as the next person for their outcome, but let's not forsake that with the reality of the situation. The people will be back in the mines next week risking their lives for the same reasons as the reasons that led them down their this week. As per many of your view point of the "human side" of the story... I wish no one ill will but anything they bring upon themselves. So if miners of their own free will, why call it anything more than what it is?? Seems like many of you want to praise them for their own risk before hand, yet ignore their haphazard after the fact. Reap what you sow in life. Don't play in traffic and then complain when cars are coming your way...right?

    Also, I choose not to get wrapped up in the pretend caring of media stories. It's simply a fabrication of reality in order to bring forth a specific false and fake emotion and reaction. This is a simple case of that. How many of you were so concerned from the Chilean earthquake, compared to this self-inflicted problem? Don't chop at me for be callous when most of you are nitpicking problems to defend.
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    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • amazing story!!i just read the news here ,that a guy from Greece via our embassy in Chile invite all 33 miners to Greece with their families for free vacation..good one..
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  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Let's not pretend this occurrence was a surprise as it wasn''t anything more than common practice in the industry which had a happy ending. I for one an happy as the next person for their outcome, but let's not forsake that with the reality of the situation. The people will be back in the mines next week risking their lives for the same reasons as the reasons that led them down their this week. As per many of your view point of the "human side" of the story... I wish no one ill will but anything they bring upon themselves. So if miners of their own free will, why call it anything more than what it is?? Seems like many of you want to praise them for their own risk before hand, yet ignore their haphazard after the fact. Reap what you sow in life. Don't play in traffic and then complain when cars are coming your way...right?

    Also, I choose not to get wrapped up in the pretend caring of media stories. It's simply a fabrication of reality in order to bring forth a specific false and fake emotion and reaction. This is a simple case of that. How many of you were so concerned from the Chilean earthquake, compared to this self-inflicted problem? Don't chop at me for be callous when most of you are nitpicking problems to defend.
    There has been a big campaign where I live to drive safer in construction areas, because many flaggers and construction workers near the road have been injured or killed.

    But it's not tragic they die, since they chose the job anyways.

    Same with plane crashes, car crashes, ships sinking, people who get mugged in dark areas, pedestrians hit by cars, etc etc etc.
    Unless you are forced to do everything by gunpoint, you pretty much walk into disastrous situations all day!
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  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    FiveB247x wrote:
    So if miners of their own free will, why call it anything more than what it is?? Seems like many of you want to praise them for their own risk before hand, yet ignore their haphazard after the fact. Reap what you sow in life. Don't play in traffic and then complain when cars are coming your way...right?

    I really don't get you. Are you trying to say it's their own fault that they were in this situation? That they could have avoided it by not going to work? That, because they live in an area where there is not much work besides mining (which is a job that someone needs to do), they should let their families starve? So their free will would be choosing between mining and food or no mining and no food. A lot of people work in risky jobs - should these jobs not be done?

    On the other hand, a cave diver has been trapped in a cave in France after a collapse of some kind for a week or so. Rescue divers are trying to locate him and get him out. This COULD have been avoided as this diver definitely knew the risks of what he was doing for RECREATION. Big difference.
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    FiveB247x wrote:
    The people will be back in the mines next week risking their lives for the same reasons as the reasons that led them down their this week..

    You mean trying to provide for their families and secure the education and future of their children so, maybe, they won't have to go down to the mines, potentially risking their lives, when they are of working age?
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