AP urges Supreme Court to side with ‘God hates fag’ church

Godfather.

Jason P wrote:

Everyone here is aware that this group is targeting the homosexual community, right? The funerals are just an effective method for them to use media outlets to spew their hate. I somehow suspect that if US soldiers were taken out of this equation, opinions across this board would flip.

I don't think anybody deserves that kind of harassment but I see your point, the topic may not get the attention it is now and then again these fools may not get the media coverage they get by harassing
fallen solders family's,bottom line is they're punks plain and simple.

Godfather.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

it would be labelled a hate crime.

Jason P wrote:

Everyone here is aware that this group is targeting the homosexual community, right? The funerals are just an effective method for them to use media outlets to spew their hate. I somehow suspect that if US soldiers were taken out of this equation, opinions across this board would flip.

Commy

Jason P wrote:

Commy wrote:

TriumphantAngel wrote:

how far do you take that pain and suffering though? who gets to choose whats harmful or not? something one person considers harmful might be a big fat laugh to someone else. what about the idiots around here that scream anti semitism and enflict emotional pain and suffering on others with their ridiculous accusations?

they should be held accountable?

excellent point. if the court doesn't rule in favor of free speech, will i be allowed to sue someone if they call me "stupid"?

Perhaps the Supreme Court could decide, just as they will in this one isolated case.

if they rule that speech can be limited because it might cause pain and suffering, they will have set a precedent. it becomes law.

meaning i can sue if emotional pain and suffering were done to me.


they are either going to uphold or rewrite law, it is why this case is so is so important, and why i keep repeating a very simple point.


either you support free speech (and the most despicable among us to say what they will) or you don't.



i don't think any person on here is supporting the church, and it has nothing to do with the fact we are dealing with soldiers. its a free speech case.

Jason P

Commy wrote:

Jason P wrote:

Perhaps the Supreme Court could decide, just as they will in this one isolated case.

if they rule that speech can be limited because it might cause pain and suffering, they will have set a precedent. it becomes law.

meaning i can sue if emotional pain and suffering were done to me.

they are either going to uphold or rewrite law, it is why this case is so is so important, and why i keep repeating a very simple point.

either you support free speech (and the most despicable among us to say what they will) or you don't.

i don't think any person on here is supporting the church, and it has nothing to do with the fact we are dealing with soldiers. its a free speech case.

I guess that I don't support many rights and laws if every issue has to be black or white. I would hope that when 99% of a society is offended by a small group, we could band together to have them knock it off instead of empowering them . . .

In regards to this case, we will find out sometime next year according to reports. My guess is they will rule in favor of free speech. The Phelps clan is well aware of how far they can push without getting into legal trouble.

I've wasted enough of my time on this issue. Aloha. :wave:

TriumphantAngel

Jason P wrote:

Everyone here is aware that this group is targeting the homosexual community, right? The funerals are just an effective method for them to use media outlets to spew their hate. I somehow suspect that if US soldiers were taken out of this equation, opinions across this board would flip.

i'm pretty sure that everyone here is aware that the WBC is disgusting. i have not seen any posts supporting their ''cause''.

like Commy has already said, either you support free speech (and the most despicable among us to say what they will) or you don't. that doesn't mean people are supporting what those idiots say and that their words are not revolting.

i also think you are completely off the mark with the US soldiers comments. i didn't get that from anyones post.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

it isn't free speech if someone decides what type of speech is acceptable or not.

Jason P wrote:

Commy wrote:

Jason P wrote:

Perhaps the Supreme Court could decide, just as they will in this one isolated case.

if they rule that speech can be limited because it might cause pain and suffering, they will have set a precedent. it becomes law.

meaning i can sue if emotional pain and suffering were done to me.

they are either going to uphold or rewrite law, it is why this case is so is so important, and why i keep repeating a very simple point.

either you support free speech (and the most despicable among us to say what they will) or you don't.

i don't think any person on here is supporting the church, and it has nothing to do with the fact we are dealing with soldiers. its a free speech case.

I guess that I don't support many rights and laws if every issue has to be black or white. I would hope that when 99% of a society is offended by a small group, we could band together to have them knock it off instead of empowering them . . .

In regards to this case, we will find out sometime next year according to reports. My guess is they will rule in favor of free speech. The Phelps clan is well aware of how far they can push without getting into legal trouble.

I've wasted enough of my time on this issue. Aloha. :wave:

haffajappa

lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra_fAYl4Th4&NR=1

haffajappa

TriumphantAngel wrote:

Jason P wrote:

Everyone here is aware that this group is targeting the homosexual community, right? The funerals are just an effective method for them to use media outlets to spew their hate. I somehow suspect that if US soldiers were taken out of this equation, opinions across this board would flip.

i'm pretty sure that everyone here is aware that the WBC is disgusting. i have not seen any posts supporting their ''cause''.

like Commy has already said, either you support free speech (and the most despicable among us to say what they will) or you don't. that doesn't mean people are supporting what those idiots say and that their words are not revolting.

i also think you are completely off the mark with the US soldiers comments. i didn't get that from anyones post.

Yeah I have already tried explaining it TA...
We DON"T AGREE WITH the WBC... And I don't understand why soldier's funerals would make us suddenly agree with that crazy disgusting group??

We are saying if you decide what is or isn't free speech it sets the precedent for the future, that courts can now dictate whether or not you can use that right, it might begin to draw a line you don't want to see drawn