How About Those Minnesota Twins?

darthvedder81

The Fixer wrote:

Ok wrote:

I never understood the weak division argument. Of course KC is shitty, but so is Baltimore. The twins had one of the tougher inter-leage schedules this year (much more difficult than Chicago and Detroit) and people still have the bias that the AL east is so vastly superior. I guess we'll see.

it's not bias, it's fact. AL east is by far the best division in baseball. the AL central stinks

And this coming from a guy who's team plays in the NL East! Hilarious. Those Nationals/Marlins/Mets teams are really formidable.

Johnny Abruzzo

darthvedder81 wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

Ok wrote:

I never understood the weak division argument. Of course KC is shitty, but so is Baltimore. The twins had one of the tougher inter-leage schedules this year (much more difficult than Chicago and Detroit) and people still have the bias that the AL east is so vastly superior. I guess we'll see.

it's not bias, it's fact. AL east is by far the best division in baseball. the AL central stinks

And this coming from a guy who's team plays in the NL East! Hilarious. Those Nationals/Marlins/Mets teams are really formidable.

I don't think he said the NL East was all that strong. It's still a better division than the AL Central though. Check the standings.

neilybabes86

this is like the twilight zone

The Fixer

darthvedder81 wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

Ok wrote:

I never understood the weak division argument. Of course KC is shitty, but so is Baltimore. The twins had one of the tougher inter-leage schedules this year (much more difficult than Chicago and Detroit) and people still have the bias that the AL east is so vastly superior. I guess we'll see.

it's not bias, it's fact. AL east is by far the best division in baseball. the AL central stinks

And this coming from a guy who's team plays in the NL East! Hilarious. Those Nationals/Marlins/Mets teams are really formidable.

I know the truth hurts, but I never said anything about the NL East. Looks like 2 playoff teams might come from the phils division. when was the last time two AL Central teams made the postseaon? actually, has that EVER happened? I'm guessing that's a no.

Good luck in the playoffs. Enjoy that week while it lasts

polaris_x

The Fixer wrote:

Ok wrote:

I never understood the weak division argument. Of course KC is shitty, but so is Baltimore. The twins had one of the tougher inter-leage schedules this year (much more difficult than Chicago and Detroit) and people still have the bias that the AL east is so vastly superior. I guess we'll see.

it's not bias, it's fact. AL east is by far the best division in baseball. the AL central stinks

twins were 14 and 18 against the AL East this year ... basically, every team in the AL Central and West are under .500 against the AL Easst ...

still ... i wouldn't favour any one team in the playoffs ...

vant0037

The Fixer wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

I think they go all the way to November. And if my boys go all the way, they're the team I fear more than any of the four coming out of the AL. Plus, November baseball in Minneapolis? That's bonkers.

You fear Carl Pavano?

beat me to it. that twins rotation is gonna get murdered by the yanks or rays

matt capps stinks too

Eh...hasn't happened yet. Also, last time the Twins faced the Yanks, Brian Duensing wasn't in the rotation. The outcome of the games I won't predict, but suffice it to say they won't get "murdered."

vant0037

The Fixer wrote:

I know the truth hurts, but I never said anything about the NL East. Looks like 2 playoff teams might come from the phils division. when was the last time two AL Central teams made the postseaon? actually, has that EVER happened? I'm guessing that's a no.

Good luck in the playoffs. Enjoy that week while it lasts

Awesome...I'm glad we're all PJ fans and a thread about baseball/fun/clinching a division title with absolutely NO ill-will or malicious intent has devolved into a "Minnesota sucks" thread. Thanks dude!

As for the Twins going to get beat up by the Yankees/Rays, I don't know. Everyone points to how bad the Twins pitching has been when in fact, the Twins are 3rd in the league for starting pitching (team ERA 0f 4.00). That's better than the Yankees and Rays. Also, keep in mind the Twins are 3rd in all of baseball for team hitting (.277 BA), and as a team have beaten David Price, Cliff Lee, Felix Hernandez, Zack Greinke (4 times), Trever Cahill, Mark Buerhle, Roy Halladay, Justin Verlander, Johan Santana etc.

My point is that yes the Rays and Yankees are good and have potent lineups. But the Twins have not, by any means, been "murdered" by them this year. They've got and demonstrated starting pitching that's effective, they've got a great bullpen, and a great starting lineup.

They just won a division title, weak division or not. Can I please enjoy it?

Sheesh...thanks a lot dickhead.

PS Yes 2 teams from the AL Central have made it to the post-season; once this decade (2006), which is incidentally the same number of times that 2 teams from the NL East have made it to the postseason.

Johnny Abruzzo

vant0037 wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

I know the truth hurts, but I never said anything about the NL East. Looks like 2 playoff teams might come from the phils division. when was the last time two AL Central teams made the postseaon? actually, has that EVER happened? I'm guessing that's a no.

Good luck in the playoffs. Enjoy that week while it lasts

Awesome...I'm glad we're all PJ fans and a thread about baseball/fun/clinching a division title with absolutely NO ill-will or malicious intent has devolved into a "Minnesota sucks" thread. Thanks dude!

As for the Twins going to get beat up by the Yankees/Rays, I don't know. Everyone points to how bad the Twins pitching has been when in fact, the Twins are 3rd in the league for starting pitching (team ERA 0f 4.00). That's better than the Yankees and Rays. Also, keep in mind the Twins are 3rd in all of baseball for team hitting (.277 BA), and as a team have beaten David Price, Cliff Lee, Felix Hernandez, Zack Greinke (4 times), Trever Cahill, Mark Buerhle, Roy Halladay, Justin Verlander, Johan Santana etc.

My point is that yes the Rays and Yankees are good and have potent lineups. But the Twins have not, by any means, been "murdered" by them this year. They've got and demonstrated starting pitching that's effective, they've got a great bullpen, and a great starting lineup.

They just won a division title, weak division or not. Can I please enjoy it?

Sheesh...thanks a lot dickhead.

PS Yes 2 teams from the AL Central have made it to the post-season; once this decade (2006), which is incidentally the same number of times that 2 teams from the NL East have made it to the postseason.

Don't worry - Fixer doesn't let us enjoy Phillies wins either. (and he's a Phillies fan)

Fixer - the man's got his facts lined up. (little sexism here in assuming you're a man...)

Pearl James

vant0037 wrote:

Awesome...I'm glad we're all PJ fans and a thread about baseball/fun/clinching a division title with absolutely NO ill-will or malicious intent has devolved into a "Minnesota sucks" thread. Thanks dude!

As for the Twins going to get beat up by the Yankees/Rays, I don't know. Everyone points to how bad the Twins pitching has been when in fact, the Twins are 3rd in the league for starting pitching (team ERA 0f 4.00). That's better than the Yankees and Rays. Also, keep in mind the Twins are 3rd in all of baseball for team hitting (.277 BA), and as a team have beaten David Price, Cliff Lee, Felix Hernandez, Zack Greinke (4 times), Trever Cahill, Mark Buerhle, Roy Halladay, Justin Verlander, Johan Santana etc.

My point is that yes the Rays and Yankees are good and have potent lineups. But the Twins have not, by any means, been "murdered" by them this year. They've got and demonstrated starting pitching that's effective, they've got a great bullpen, and a great starting lineup.

They just won a division title, weak division or not. Can I please enjoy it?

Sheesh...thanks a lot dickhead.

PS Yes 2 teams from the AL Central have made it to the post-season; once this decade (2006), which is incidentally the same number of times that 2 teams from the NL East have made it to the postseason.

You certainly havent spent enough time on a message board with sports fans. Obviously there are going to be people who dislike your team to an extent and will not be afraid to express it. The Twins record certainly proves themselves as the team they are. I dont remember a Twins team with this talent since 2006, and years before that. But I also think this is a prime example on how insecure Twins fans truly are. Every single time someone posts something that is in any way negative about the Twins, even something we can all agree with. A twins fan here has to post some sort of stat to stay contempt with themselves. Id like to reinforce the fact that you made this thread when, in fact, there is already another thread devoted to the Twins that has been maintained throughout the whole season. If you didnt want anyone to post their opinions about the Twins and the AL Central, you shouldnt have made this thread, its that simple. Its pathetic enough you start this then decide to insult someone personally when he/she is just giving their side to the argument. No one is telling you to not enjoy your division title either. But youve had 6 to enjoy this decade and nothing to show for it. So maybe you can prove yourself as an actual playoff threat and then you may be excited for postseason play.

darthvedder81

I hope the Twins go 11-0 in the playoffs just to shut some of these morons up.

Kevinman

I hope the Vikings go 0-16 for Karma's sake.

Ok

Kevinman wrote:

I hope the Vikings go 0-16 for Karma's sake.

:roll:

The Fixer

Pearl James wrote:

vant0037 wrote:

Awesome...I'm glad we're all PJ fans and a thread about baseball/fun/clinching a division title with absolutely NO ill-will or malicious intent has devolved into a "Minnesota sucks" thread. Thanks dude!

As for the Twins going to get beat up by the Yankees/Rays, I don't know. Everyone points to how bad the Twins pitching has been when in fact, the Twins are 3rd in the league for starting pitching (team ERA 0f 4.00). That's better than the Yankees and Rays. Also, keep in mind the Twins are 3rd in all of baseball for team hitting (.277 BA), and as a team have beaten David Price, Cliff Lee, Felix Hernandez, Zack Greinke (4 times), Trever Cahill, Mark Buerhle, Roy Halladay, Justin Verlander, Johan Santana etc.

My point is that yes the Rays and Yankees are good and have potent lineups. But the Twins have not, by any means, been "murdered" by them this year. They've got and demonstrated starting pitching that's effective, they've got a great bullpen, and a great starting lineup.

They just won a division title, weak division or not. Can I please enjoy it?

Sheesh...thanks a lot dickhead.

PS Yes 2 teams from the AL Central have made it to the post-season; once this decade (2006), which is incidentally the same number of times that 2 teams from the NL East have made it to the postseason.

You certainly havent spent enough time on a message board with sports fans. Obviously there are going to be people who dislike your team to an extent and will not be afraid to express it. The Twins record certainly proves themselves as the team they are. I dont remember a Twins team with this talent since 2006, and years before that. But I also think this is a prime example on how insecure Twins fans truly are. Every single time someone posts something that is in any way negative about the Twins, even something we can all agree with. A twins fan here has to post some sort of stat to stay contempt with themselves. Id like to reinforce the fact that you made this thread when, in fact, there is already another thread devoted to the Twins that has been maintained throughout the whole season. If you didnt want anyone to post their opinions about the Twins and the AL Central, you shouldnt have made this thread, its that simple. Its pathetic enough you start this then decide to insult someone personally when he/she is just giving their side to the argument. No one is telling you to not enjoy your division title either. But youve had 6 to enjoy this decade and nothing to show for it. So maybe you can prove yourself as an actual playoff threat and then you may be excited for postseason play.

thanks for posting this dude, appreciate it. I don't believe in getting personal or name calling. Like you said, I was just giving my opinion about what's gonna happen in the playoffs. People get their panties in a bunch way too easily.

vant0037

You certainly havent spent enough time on a message board with sports fans. Obviously there are going to be people who dislike your team to an extent and will not be afraid to express it. The Twins record certainly proves themselves as the team they are. I dont remember a Twins team with this talent since 2006, and years before that. But I also think this is a prime example on how insecure Twins fans truly are. Every single time someone posts something that is in any way negative about the Twins, even something we can all agree with. A twins fan here has to post some sort of stat to stay contempt with themselves. Id like to reinforce the fact that you made this thread when, in fact, there is already another thread devoted to the Twins that has been maintained throughout the whole season. If you didnt want anyone to post their opinions about the Twins and the AL Central, you shouldnt have made this thread, its that simple. Its pathetic enough you start this then decide to insult someone personally when he/she is just giving their side to the argument. No one is telling you to not enjoy your division title either. But youve had 6 to enjoy this decade and nothing to show for it. So maybe you can prove yourself as an actual playoff threat and then you may be excited for postseason play.

If I'm guilty of anything, it was not searching for a thread that was started back in April. As for being insecure, give me a break dude. My initial thread was celebratory. Last I checked, there was a 2010 Phillies post and never once did it cross my mind to go to that thread and talk shit about how awesome the Twins are and how shitty the Phillies are. Yet a purely celebratory thread about the Twins draws negative flack from non-Twins fans and I'm the one with the problem?

As for "someone giving their side of the argument?" What argument? Where in the OP did I ask for a debate on whether I should truly be happy that the Twins won their division?

As for me/the Twins having "6 [division titles] to enjoy and nothing to show for it?" Again...EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Of course I'd like them to win the World Series every year, but the fact that they don't doesn't make me any less happy when they take a first step toward doing it, regardless of the final outcome. The fact that you took the time to post on here why I shouldn't be happy about my team's success reminds me why I don't spend time on sports message boards.

I didn't invite negative commentary from non-Twins fans, and yet that's what I got. You've posted on here why I shouldn't be surprised about it, and then went further and tried to prove to me why I shouldn't be happy about the Twins.

Way to go pal.

pjhawks

Congrats to the Twins and especially to Jim Thome. Classy guy and great to see him in the playoffs again. Would love to see the Phils-Twins Series. Good luck Twins - take out those yankee sob's.

vant0037

thanks for posting this dude, appreciate it. I don't believe in getting personal or name calling. Like you said, I was just giving my opinion about what's gonna happen in the playoffs. People get their panties in a bunch way too easily.

Sorry I hurt your feelings, but you went ahead and found a post that was celebrating a division title for a team that you don't cheer for and made negative comments. Of course you're going to get backlash. I didn't find the Phillies thread and make negative comments; you did that for my Twins thread and I'm the one with the problem? That makes sense.

And I pointed out stats regarding the Twins not to be "contempt" (I'm sure he meant "content") with myself, but only to counter your point about how the Twins staff isn't any good or how they're going to get "murdered." But of course its easier to brush off stats/facts when they fly in the face of your opinion.

Jearlpam0925

Easy, tiger. It's all ball busting. You'd think being from Minnesota - with the chance of a WS in arctic weather - you'd have thicker skin.

Now I know why people outside of Philly think we're assholes. They just can't hang.

The Fixer

vant0037 wrote:

thanks for posting this dude, appreciate it. I don't believe in getting personal or name calling. Like you said, I was just giving my opinion about what's gonna happen in the playoffs. People get their panties in a bunch way too easily.

Sorry I hurt your feelings, but you went ahead and found a post that was celebrating a division title for a team that you don't cheer for and made negative comments. Of course you're going to get backlash. I didn't find the Phillies thread and make negative comments; you did that for my Twins thread and I'm the one with the problem? That makes sense.

And I pointed out stats regarding the Twins not to be "contempt" (I'm sure he meant "content") with myself, but only to counter your point about how the Twins staff isn't any good or how they're going to get "murdered." But of course its easier to brush off stats/facts when they fly in the face of your opinion.

dude, you didn't hurt my feelings. I don't really care all that much. I didnt think my comments were overly negative. all I said was that I think the twins are gonna lose in round 1. Again.

I hear worse trash talk at my 6 year old nephews soccer games. You shouldn't let your inferiority complex shine through so glaringly.

And to repeat something else I said in this thread, I will be pulling for the twins in the playoffs...especially if they play the yanks.

81

rumor has it, on off days during the world series, they will flood the field and play hockey.

vant0037

The Fixer wrote:

vant0037 wrote:

thanks for posting this dude, appreciate it. I don't believe in getting personal or name calling. Like you said, I was just giving my opinion about what's gonna happen in the playoffs. People get their panties in a bunch way too easily.

Sorry I hurt your feelings, but you went ahead and found a post that was celebrating a division title for a team that you don't cheer for and made negative comments. Of course you're going to get backlash. I didn't find the Phillies thread and make negative comments; you did that for my Twins thread and I'm the one with the problem? That makes sense.

And I pointed out stats regarding the Twins not to be "contempt" (I'm sure he meant "content") with myself, but only to counter your point about how the Twins staff isn't any good or how they're going to get "murdered." But of course its easier to brush off stats/facts when they fly in the face of your opinion.

dude, you didn't hurt my feelings. I don't really care all that much. I didnt think my comments were overly negative. all I said was that I think the twins are gonna lose in round 1. Again.

I hear worse trash talk at my 6 year old nephews soccer games. You shouldn't let your inferiority complex shine through so glaringly.

And to repeat something else I said in this thread, I will be pulling for the twins in the playoffs...especially if they play the yanks.

You went ahead and started an argument on a thread for a team you don't follow. I'd say you care.

All I pointed out were some stats that counter your claim that the Twins rotation isn't any good. I haven't heard a counter-point. If you want to debate the merits of the Twins this year, fine. But you haven't done that; instead you've made a point, not backed it up and then wondered why people are upset that you're posting here. If you think the Twins rotation is not good, great. Let's debate it (even though that was not my intention with posting about the Twins, fall sports and how awesome they are :? ). But until then, I'd say you're going to continue to get backlash by turning a benign post about a team you don't follow into a debate about why that team is good or not.

Something I've said before: I've never felt the need to go say that I think the Phillies are overrated or they suck or they won't win etc on the Phillies thread, because I don't care about the Phillies. So why do you feel the need to do that on a thread for a team you don't follow? I don't think I'm the one with an inferiority complex...