I think he would be a bigger star solo, on the same note he would probably hate it, I think he enjoys his life in Pj. Which is prob why he did his solo stuff on a very low key level. Not many radio friendly songs and the whole intimate scene on a extremely small tour.
I highly respect him for the vison on that. Alot of other singers have a hard time with that. Roth with VH, Cornell obviously, Dickinson in Maiden, these guys transitions back to the band were not real good after becoming just as huge as the band, or in Cornells case his second band.He cant make up his mind on ever. Eddy wasted no time jumping right back in touring some of the bands larger selling fanbases.
Ed really is pretty fucking cool.
Roth and Dickinson never got bigger than thier orginal bands. Van Halen actually got bigger after Roth left. And i'll just say Tatooed Millionaire.
Funny that you call my logic flawed when you speak of only the present. Some of us were born when the whole Seattle movement started and even without Ed these guys were going to be famous. If anything Ed hurt that with his attitude toward the media. And actually aside from on this board PJ is far from being famous anymore most people don't even know they still are around. Fortunately for EV there is and internet full of douche bags that would suck the sweat from his underwear. I love EV being in PJ but to say EV is PJ is plain moronic.
Where are the rest of the successful Seattle bands? Dead!!!!! Physically or creatively. Ironic that a Kid from Chicago via SD fronts the only band still active. But again must be because of Stone and Jeff. You sir are the Douchebag, and by that i mean you are a bag full of vinegar and water that my wife uses to flush my semen from her vagina
"So forget the other boys because my love is real.
Come off your battlefield."
You never said you didn;t like it. You went MUCH further than that, saying that he wouldn;t be shit without PJetc. If you don;t like iut that's fine but to run your mouth about stupid shit like you have been doing is American( and I say that in the worst sense of the word)
"So forget the other boys because my love is real.
Come off your battlefield."
maybe to rephrase the question for the OP, would eddie be a star if he had been a solo artist his entire career???
Are you dave a., or jealous.
Why speculate this at this point anymore. We have all scene the first 9 parts of the movie, lets be progressive.
So now this thread comes down to would Ed be a bigger star if he did more solo, but how big a star would he be if he wasnt in a rock band to begin with.
Wheres the end to this statement?
This is the kind of stuff me and a few of my friends from here laugh our asses of at. Than we are called stupid for not agreeing either way.n Than we are dumb for not typing as well.
Dont make it so complex, start another thread.
Acomplished musicians do solo stuff all the time and swell up. The market is full of people wanting to be midly charmed with whatever is the flovor of the month. Musicians also use other platforms to get popular, and than change carreers. Than it becomes about their choices, and sometimes egos get in the way of a clear decision.
Actually I said his career would ween off wothout PJ. But shoot just more flawed logic but least at least use the meanings of the word we Americans have agreed on. Lastly if Andy Wood never died we would not be having this arguement because no one would know who EV is.
Now, absolutely yes and he's already known as the primary leader of PJ.
Past, before Pearl Jam. Hell NO, did Bad Radio make it big? Nope Eddie needed seasoned music veterans like Jeff and Stone to become a big rock star.
Without Jeff and Stone, Ed would just be a surfer bum.
Are you serious or joking.
He was constantly doing musical stuff before he met them, he was very agressive. There is the story about beth working at columbia records or something close to that. He was taking like johnny mathis tapes ar something and putting bad radio songs on them and giving them away. With the slogan if you dont like my band call the singer.
He was a hard worker, he worked on gigs and tons of other stuff bascially tagging along with Irons, he also did his folky stuff by himself back then, so he really wasnt ANY DIFFERANT IN 89.
He was doing enough shows a year to be considered popluar. Jeff and stones bands were no more popular than bad radio, now when they met Andy they became more popular. So this argument is not super accurate. Andy was a huge reason MLB was popular, lIke Ed was with PJ.
Yes all of them comming togehter enlightened everyone, it usually happens with good bands. Its chemistry.
I was wondering why Eddie is doing this solo tour. Is it because of the Into The Wild soundtrack? Maybe I sound too much like a chick here, but do you think the other band members were jealous to be left out of a tour? If anyone knows, please let me know. thanks.
(I might have missed the reason if already mentioned)
No they all have done side projects and tours befroe. Its just differant.
Guitar players and drummers usually ne4ed to be very technical on their solo stuff to become hugely popular or have a great singer, that is marketable. They do real cool stuff but on very small avenues. Singers get great opputunties to do soundtracks, or benifits albums and be marketed hugely over looks and personal style. And and how charming they are and likely causes they support.
Like If Ed went all out and wrote a song for Obbamma it would have maybee been a radio hit where as stones song was underground. Based on Ed being a figurehead people would listen too based on notariety.
ITW only sold because of all the EV ass kissers that follow PJ. That album would never had been made if it weren't for Stone and Jeff.
No way, I played ITW for alot of my friends that are 70s pop heads,that I always try and force PJ on, and they are always like yeah that song is okay
I played ITW for them and they creamed their pants over it. I had it at the super bowl party and xmas parties and everyone loved it and started telling me about hearing on tv and the movie and so.
There is a whole generation of people that follow soundtracks. Its amazing how narrowminded some people can be thinking how its just us that like it, to kind of discredit our fanship.
asskisser
wtf
your the one getting all super passionate.
No way, I played ITW for alot of my friends that are 70s pop heads,that I always try and force PJ on, and they are always like yeah that song is okay
I played ITW for them and they creamed their pants over it. I had it at the super bowl party and xmas parties and everyone loved it and started telling me about hearing on tv and the movie and so.
There is a whole generation of people that follow soundtracks. Its amazing how narrowminded some people can be thinking how its just us that like it, to kind of discredit our fanship.
asskisser
wtf
your the one getting all super passionate.
Funny that you call my logic flawed when you speak of only the present. Some of us were born when the whole Seattle movement started and even without Ed these guys were going to be famous. If anything Ed hurt that with his attitude toward the media. And actually aside from on this board PJ is far from being famous anymore most people don't even know they still are around. Fortunately for EV there is and internet full of douche bags that would suck the sweat from his underwear. I love EV being in PJ but to say EV is PJ is plain moronic.
Well on the east coast they do, they are the biggest band touring this summer in philly, dc, boston.
So you are contridicting your apple theory.
It was huge in seattle/portalnd
But no where else
People dont even remeber pearl jam anymore
But on our coast they are HEADLING THE BIGGEST FESTIVALS, selling out 10 shows in the major markets
But on yours its a more quiet front right now.
Roth and Dickinson never got bigger than thier orginal bands. Van Halen actually got bigger after Roth left. And i'll just say Tatooed Millionaire.
Now lets go down this street backwards
Being in a band is better long term for a rock singer, lets say scale it down over 20 years.
Solo pop stars get huge in a short amount of time and than stay more local to their home areas and try to write big hits.
Now with roth
Well now I lived through that, after 1984 VH was the coolest band around, but Roth did the solo album and was just as huge and probl more popular, he in one way or another hurt the band, he either wanted the band to move and they didnt, or they did and he said
wait. The transition back was impossible, I believe it is becasue he got huge.
Now dickinson was very popular in Europe, and dicked the band around with an almost axl like attitude, but sensibly came back.
Regardelss of just how internationall popular someone gets
they could be selling out small venues every night and still let it cloud their judgement.
I dont know these posts start off good and than the walt disneys of the world show up and try to write another story on the band. I get caught up in it.
I also enjoy learning differant perspectives on some of it.
Ed has star written all over him, I honestly would love to know in hte end who advises him to stay with the band. Because for 15 years he shrunk in popularity for the good of the band, and now I feel the band is really srarting to move into a more widely respected band internationally in all avenues of entertainment. And is finally paying off for them. It just doesnt happen that way anymore.
It took tons of vision and patience. And how he handeled this solo career just shows you on a smaller scale how hes handeld the band.
I dont know these posts start off good and than the walt disneys of the world show up and try to write another story on the band. I get caught up in it.
I also enjoy learning differant perspectives on some of it.
Ed has star written all over him, I honestly would love to know in hte end who advises him to stay with the band. Because for 15 years he shrunk in popularity for the good of the band, and now I feel the band is really srarting to move into a more widely respected band internationally in all avenues of entertainment. And is finally paying off for them. It just doesnt happen that way anymore.
It took tons of vision and patience. And how he handeled this solo career just shows you on a smaller scale how hes handeld the band.
I don't think Ed's recent activities can called a "solo career." I like the Into the Wild soundtrack and all but the running time is so incredibly short that it can hardly be called an 'album' and his string of concerts was so short that it can hardly be called a 'tour.'
I don't think he has "star" written all over him a solo artist. not in the least. for starters, I doubt he'd attract any new fans....all his fans would be pearl jam fans both present and former, hardcore and casual. and what's he going to do? him and his guitar? that's it? that's good in small doses (a pre-set, this west coast solo tour), but for THAT to be his act? I wouldn't be too into that myself. I've always been that Pearl Jam fan who skips over Nothingman to get to Whipping quicker. that's the Pearl Jam I like. that's the music I like. I like Eddie as Jim Morrison much more than I like Eddie as Bob Dylan
I don't think Ed's recent activities can called a "solo career." I like the Into the Wild soundtrack and all but the running time is so incredibly short that it can hardly be called an 'album' and his string of concerts was so short that it can hardly be called a 'tour.'
I don't think he has "star" written all over him a solo artist. not in the least. for starters, I doubt he'd attract any new fans....all his fans would be pearl jam fans both present and former, hardcore and casual. and what's he going to do? him and his guitar? that's it? that's good in small doses (a pre-set, this west coast solo tour), but for THAT to be his act? I wouldn't be too into that myself. I've always been that Pearl Jam fan who skips over Nothingman to get to Whipping quicker. that's the Pearl Jam I like. that's the music I like. I like Eddie as Jim Morrison much more than I like Eddie as Bob Dylan
I would agree with you if I didnt expiereince differant opinions.
Everyone around me knows how much I love PJ, I take them to shows, and they are like well its okay.
Now Im 38, so I am older.
This last holiday season these people were going out of their way to get the music, and play it for me.
I noticed him everywhere, my kid even would say dad that guy from the pictures songs on.
Now I live in jersey, so maybee it was just possible here.
but he did win a golden globe, so that was not based o pj fans, becasue he would have one won for man of the hour, so give him some credit.
People were mentiong the film alot too, every single person that knew I liked Ed showed interest in the album.
Now your comments on the tour and short album I agree on, I stated earlier maybe Ed scaled it down to not swell up, he had to have more material for the project.
He easily could have toured the east coast, not the same venues but smaller ones, the philly area music heads were assuming a solo tour and we got the band.
I agree on him not being as good as pj too, I wasnt really interested with the solo stuff, hard sun is too long of a song, mixed in with pj on a playlist gets boring quick.
I just easily think he could do it with a guitar becasue so many people like him for other reasons than we do.
I would agree with you if I didnt expiereince differant opinions.
Everyone around me knows how much I love PJ, I take them to shows, and they are like well its okay.
Now Im 38, so I am older.
This last holiday season these people were going out of their way to get the music, and play it for me.
I noticed him everywhere, my kid even would say dad that guy from the pictures songs on.
Now I live in jersey, so maybee it was just possible here.
but he did win a golden globe, so that was not based o pj fans, becasue he would have one won for man of the hour, so give him some credit.
People were mentiong the film alot too, every single person that knew I liked Ed showed interest in the album.
Now your comments on the tour and short album I agree on, I stated earlier maybe Ed scaled it down to not swell up, he had to have more material for the project.
He easily could have toured the east coast, not the same venues but smaller ones, the philly area music heads were assuming a solo tour and we got the band.
I agree on him not being as good as pj too, I wasnt really interested with the solo stuff, hard sun is too long of a song, mixed in with pj on a playlist gets boring quick.
I just easily think he could do it with a guitar becasue so many people like him for other reasons than we do.
If he plays solo when PJ is on hiatus (like he is now), that's cool. If PJ ever breaks up and then he goes solo, that's cool. but if PJ ever breaks up because he wants to go solo, that would suck. If he ever came in one day (and who knows, it may happen) and said "guys, I think we reached our end as 'Pearl Jam'" That would be a bummer. Stone would feel like a scorn lover....and he'd probably try to kill Sean Penn.
If he plays solo when PJ is on hiatus (like he is now), that's cool. If PJ ever breaks up and then he goes solo, that's cool. but if PJ ever breaks up because he wants to go solo, that would suck. If he ever came in one day (and who knows, it may happen) and said "guys, I think we reached our end as 'Pearl Jam'" That would be a bummer. Stone would feel like a scorn lover....and he'd probably try to kill Sean Penn.
That's the most sense I've seen on here EVER, lol
"So forget the other boys because my love is real.
Come off your battlefield."
dude, every so often a there's a douchebag pit memeber who hates on Eddie for all the credit he gets and tries to think of every conceivable way to make it look as if any of the other band members are as important to pearl jam as he is.
I don't like when fans think of this band as Eddie Vedder and the Pearl Jams. I'm sorry that I view every member as an equal in the group. Of course Ed gets all the attention because he's the frontman and writes most of the lyrics. But their writing process has always been collaborative. This isn't a situation like Trent Reznor with Nine Inch Nails or Kurt Cobain with Nirvana where they are the only creative force in the group. Every member gets their say on the albums and I appreciate that. I apologize for feeling that way.
Can't escape from the common rule...
If you hate something, don't you do it too
I don't like when fans think of this band as Eddie Vedder and the Pearl Jams. I'm sorry that I view every member as an equal in the group. Of course Ed gets all the attention because he's the frontman and writes most of the lyrics. But their writing process has always been collaborative. This isn't a situation like Trent Reznor with Nine Inch Nails or Kurt Cobain with Nirvana where they are the only creative force in the group. Every member gets their say on the albums and I appreciate that. I apologize for feeling that way.
If he plays solo when PJ is on hiatus (like he is now), that's cool. If PJ ever breaks up and then he goes solo, that's cool. but if PJ ever breaks up because he wants to go solo, that would suck. If he ever came in one day (and who knows, it may happen) and said "guys, I think we reached our end as 'Pearl Jam'" That would be a bummer. Stone would feel like a scorn lover....and he'd probably try to kill Sean Penn.
If he pulled a roth Id be pissed as hell, really let down. But I think he has the vision not to fuck it up, its abvious.
For sure Eddie would have a fantastic solo career. I want to see him as Pearl Jam's front man forever ofcourse but he could still continue a solo career in between albums and be very successful.
Jeff and Stone were both in successful bands before Ed. What was Ed doing? Waiting to meet some real musicians.
None as successful as PJ ... Jeff and Stone are good musicans not great.... Mike though is Great
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Where are the rest of the successful Seattle bands? Dead!!!!! Physically or creatively. Ironic that a Kid from Chicago via SD fronts the only band still active. But again must be because of Stone and Jeff. You sir are the Douchebag, and by that i mean you are a bag full of vinegar and water that my wife uses to flush my semen from her vagina
Come off your battlefield."
You like Ed solo I don't. No sour grapes here.
Come off your battlefield."
he's tapping! ring the bell!
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
Are you dave a., or jealous.
Why speculate this at this point anymore. We have all scene the first 9 parts of the movie, lets be progressive.
So now this thread comes down to would Ed be a bigger star if he did more solo, but how big a star would he be if he wasnt in a rock band to begin with.
Wheres the end to this statement?
This is the kind of stuff me and a few of my friends from here laugh our asses of at. Than we are called stupid for not agreeing either way.n Than we are dumb for not typing as well.
Dont make it so complex, start another thread.
Acomplished musicians do solo stuff all the time and swell up. The market is full of people wanting to be midly charmed with whatever is the flovor of the month. Musicians also use other platforms to get popular, and than change carreers. Than it becomes about their choices, and sometimes egos get in the way of a clear decision.
no more shows
Are you serious or joking.
He was constantly doing musical stuff before he met them, he was very agressive. There is the story about beth working at columbia records or something close to that. He was taking like johnny mathis tapes ar something and putting bad radio songs on them and giving them away. With the slogan if you dont like my band call the singer.
He was a hard worker, he worked on gigs and tons of other stuff bascially tagging along with Irons, he also did his folky stuff by himself back then, so he really wasnt ANY DIFFERANT IN 89.
He was doing enough shows a year to be considered popluar. Jeff and stones bands were no more popular than bad radio, now when they met Andy they became more popular. So this argument is not super accurate. Andy was a huge reason MLB was popular, lIke Ed was with PJ.
Yes all of them comming togehter enlightened everyone, it usually happens with good bands. Its chemistry.
no more shows
No they all have done side projects and tours befroe. Its just differant.
Guitar players and drummers usually ne4ed to be very technical on their solo stuff to become hugely popular or have a great singer, that is marketable. They do real cool stuff but on very small avenues. Singers get great opputunties to do soundtracks, or benifits albums and be marketed hugely over looks and personal style. And and how charming they are and likely causes they support.
Like If Ed went all out and wrote a song for Obbamma it would have maybee been a radio hit where as stones song was underground. Based on Ed being a figurehead people would listen too based on notariety.
no more shows
yes exactly but you live in portland. That stuff wasnt huge anywhere outside of that half of the country, and in LA the local music ciruit is huge.
no more shows
No way, I played ITW for alot of my friends that are 70s pop heads,that I always try and force PJ on, and they are always like yeah that song is okay
I played ITW for them and they creamed their pants over it. I had it at the super bowl party and xmas parties and everyone loved it and started telling me about hearing on tv and the movie and so.
There is a whole generation of people that follow soundtracks. Its amazing how narrowminded some people can be thinking how its just us that like it, to kind of discredit our fanship.
asskisser
wtf
your the one getting all super passionate.
no more shows
why are you even bothering with him man?
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
Well on the east coast they do, they are the biggest band touring this summer in philly, dc, boston.
So you are contridicting your apple theory.
It was huge in seattle/portalnd
But no where else
People dont even remeber pearl jam anymore
But on our coast they are HEADLING THE BIGGEST FESTIVALS, selling out 10 shows in the major markets
But on yours its a more quiet front right now.
no more shows
Now lets go down this street backwards
Being in a band is better long term for a rock singer, lets say scale it down over 20 years.
Solo pop stars get huge in a short amount of time and than stay more local to their home areas and try to write big hits.
Now with roth
Well now I lived through that, after 1984 VH was the coolest band around, but Roth did the solo album and was just as huge and probl more popular, he in one way or another hurt the band, he either wanted the band to move and they didnt, or they did and he said
wait. The transition back was impossible, I believe it is becasue he got huge.
Now dickinson was very popular in Europe, and dicked the band around with an almost axl like attitude, but sensibly came back.
Regardelss of just how internationall popular someone gets
they could be selling out small venues every night and still let it cloud their judgement.
no more shows
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"If I wanted you to understand, I would have explained it better"
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I also enjoy learning differant perspectives on some of it.
Ed has star written all over him, I honestly would love to know in hte end who advises him to stay with the band. Because for 15 years he shrunk in popularity for the good of the band, and now I feel the band is really srarting to move into a more widely respected band internationally in all avenues of entertainment. And is finally paying off for them. It just doesnt happen that way anymore.
It took tons of vision and patience. And how he handeled this solo career just shows you on a smaller scale how hes handeld the band.
no more shows
I don't think Ed's recent activities can called a "solo career." I like the Into the Wild soundtrack and all but the running time is so incredibly short that it can hardly be called an 'album' and his string of concerts was so short that it can hardly be called a 'tour.'
I don't think he has "star" written all over him a solo artist. not in the least. for starters, I doubt he'd attract any new fans....all his fans would be pearl jam fans both present and former, hardcore and casual. and what's he going to do? him and his guitar? that's it? that's good in small doses (a pre-set, this west coast solo tour), but for THAT to be his act? I wouldn't be too into that myself. I've always been that Pearl Jam fan who skips over Nothingman to get to Whipping quicker. that's the Pearl Jam I like. that's the music I like. I like Eddie as Jim Morrison much more than I like Eddie as Bob Dylan
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
I would agree with you if I didnt expiereince differant opinions.
Everyone around me knows how much I love PJ, I take them to shows, and they are like well its okay.
Now Im 38, so I am older.
This last holiday season these people were going out of their way to get the music, and play it for me.
I noticed him everywhere, my kid even would say dad that guy from the pictures songs on.
Now I live in jersey, so maybee it was just possible here.
but he did win a golden globe, so that was not based o pj fans, becasue he would have one won for man of the hour, so give him some credit.
People were mentiong the film alot too, every single person that knew I liked Ed showed interest in the album.
Now your comments on the tour and short album I agree on, I stated earlier maybe Ed scaled it down to not swell up, he had to have more material for the project.
He easily could have toured the east coast, not the same venues but smaller ones, the philly area music heads were assuming a solo tour and we got the band.
I agree on him not being as good as pj too, I wasnt really interested with the solo stuff, hard sun is too long of a song, mixed in with pj on a playlist gets boring quick.
I just easily think he could do it with a guitar becasue so many people like him for other reasons than we do.
no more shows
If he plays solo when PJ is on hiatus (like he is now), that's cool. If PJ ever breaks up and then he goes solo, that's cool. but if PJ ever breaks up because he wants to go solo, that would suck. If he ever came in one day (and who knows, it may happen) and said "guys, I think we reached our end as 'Pearl Jam'" That would be a bummer. Stone would feel like a scorn lover....and he'd probably try to kill Sean Penn.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
Come off your battlefield."
I don't like when fans think of this band as Eddie Vedder and the Pearl Jams. I'm sorry that I view every member as an equal in the group. Of course Ed gets all the attention because he's the frontman and writes most of the lyrics. But their writing process has always been collaborative. This isn't a situation like Trent Reznor with Nine Inch Nails or Kurt Cobain with Nirvana where they are the only creative force in the group. Every member gets their say on the albums and I appreciate that. I apologize for feeling that way.
If you hate something, don't you do it too
apology accepted
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
If he pulled a roth Id be pissed as hell, really let down. But I think he has the vision not to fuck it up, its abvious.
no more shows
Yes, but just because it hasn't worked out for Cornell doesn't mean it won't work out for Eddie.
None as successful as PJ ... Jeff and Stone are good musicans not great.... Mike though is Great
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