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I don't have a stance because it doesn't change my life. However as a Libertarian/Constitutionalist I don't think you should deny someone something because you don't agree with them.
So this guy makes a suggestion where he says straight people should by law not be allowed to divorce because gays by law are not allowed to be married.
The bible thumpers are obviously the ones holding this all up, so what this guy is saying he is on the right path. Since bible thumpers say being gay is a sin and they don't want marriage for gays legal; isn't divorce a sin so it should also by the same logic be illegal?
Just a thought.
So this guy makes a suggestion where he says straight people should by law not be allowed to divorce because gays by law are not allowed to be married.
The bible thumpers are obviously the ones holding this all up, so what this guy is saying he is on the right path. Since bible thumpers say being gay is a sin and they don't want marriage for gays legal; isn't divorce a sin so it should also by the same logic be illegal?
Just a thought.
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may i suggest to this guy that he worry about his own life and not impose his belief system on others.
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That's exactly it, and is also the problem with the whole gay marriage "crisis" that is floating around today.
Not to hi-jack but for the sake of the topic, I wrote an argument piece for my English class last fall. If anyone is interested in reading it you can find it here: http://www.redbubble.com/people/stillframe/journal/5908055-plague-of-ignorance
In my opinion, religion should play no part in this discussion. Freedom of religion is freedom from religion.
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I agree with this. Government should get out of the marriage business.
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Exactly. Let's make the government illegal. It is the single biggest imposition on our lives and freedoms.
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-religion is a club. I am not a part of this club, but nonetheless. clubs can allow members as they wish, and also create the rules within their own club as they wish. this club only allows its members who are of opposite sex to get married. I have no problem with this. abide by the rules of the club, or find another club.
-civil unions are a different matter altogether. anyone who wants to get unified in the eyes of the government has that right, in my opinion.
-government should NOT be part of the aforementioned club, and therefore has no right to deny anyone the right to a civil union, and also guarantee that couple the same rights under the law that they give married couples. therein lies the whole issue.
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Its none of our business what people do with their lives...
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And if I'm causing no harm why should it bother you
And your choice is what you choose to be
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I know this isn't life changing for a lot of people, myself included, but for some...it's a big deal. It's unconstitutional for the government to actually enforce who you can or cannot marry. So, in that case...I think it does matter.
Certain people aren't getting defended by the government, which ultimately is the purpose of the government, or at least that's what it was meant to do when it was conceived...but I think we all have our own opinions on how that is a vision that may have since been lost.
I agree that this is stupid nonsense, but until people start being treated equally albeit their sexual preference, this does matter and the ignorant people that make this still existant should be silenced.
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Most of us agree with you... but, many Americans make a big deal out of it and the politicaians cater to them for their votes.
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Definitely. Unfortunately, at the root of it all, this shouldn't be a big deal in the first place. So there are homosexuals in this world, big fucking deal.
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Ain't that the truth.
I have found that the basis of their reasoning is eventually rooted in the Bible... all that abomination stuff. But what is also found in the Bible is Jesus saying, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." So, as long as they have no sins logged against them in their lives, they can go after the Gays. But, I think this pretty much eliminates 100% of the population... DEFINATELY, 100% of the politicians.
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It is really frustrating to see religious beliefs forced upon people who aren't religious, or don't practice the same religion. I'm not religious, but to me that seems completely paradoxical to the whole concept of religion.
Shouldn't one be able to choose and freely abide by their own faith? :?
"Imagine no religion...it's easy if you try."
Lash me if you will...but I think the world would be a much better place without it.
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You can choose and freely abide by your own faith? Who said you couldn't?
It's pretty difficult to FORCE someone to believe something.
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I know I can. But by prohibiting gay marriage through legality based primarily on religious beliefs, said beliefs are enforced on the people.
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But that's not religion forcing that on the people. That's the governmental process.
And that's a practice and not a belief.
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That is why I feel that the government is failing in it's overall mission, and separation of church and state is being ignored.
The bottom line for me is that if you want to dive into the realm of marriage, nothing or nobody should be able to tell you who or what you want to do it with.
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That was my point.
So many real issues to focus on to worry about 2 guys getting married and spending the rest of their lives together (well 25-50% of the time
But you CAN'T separate church and state if it's a popular vote that is dictating policy. It's impossible.
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Point taken.
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Yeah, I read you. We should just obsolete our Constitution and Bill of Rights then if the government is only going to defend popular morality. :(
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No - I'm just saying that not allowing people to vote on issues because of their religion is NOT the same thing as separation of church and state. These laws banning gay marriage were passed on a popular vote.
You're basically saying that religious people shouldn't be allowed to vote (I know you're not really saying that, but by indicating that separation of church and state is being ignored when these laws were voted into existence you kind of are)
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Yeah I can see my error of debate, but I didn't mean to imply that. Overall I just strongly feel that there shouldn't be laws banning gay marriage, and if there are...they shouldn't be voted on by popular vote, which in turn makes me think that such laws wouldn't exist because the government would have no justification to deny them the marriage rights.
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