Of course I don't really want to hurt anybody. But if 100% of people with political credentials tell someone to knock it off, and they don't knock it off, it is frustrating to see an "Oh well, what are you going to do" attitude. There is the potential for hundreds of people to die because of this man's actions and we just sit back and do nothing.
so what do you suggest we do to this crazed person
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
I say, let him burn them. Then he will be murdered by extremists. Everyone with a right mind will just shake their head in disgust. Then it will be done.
That would be fine if he was the only target, but if a cartoon can cause riots and the deaths of a significant number of people, this could be 10 times worse.
I really don't think it would be a bad idea for us to beat the crap out of this guy. Nobody worth a damn has supported this guy.
don't we have the right to free speech in america? i guess you wanna beat the crap outta people that burn the american flag at war protests or that god hates fags cult. would you wanna beat me up if i burned the holy bible right now and posted it on youtube for the whole world to see.
Having the right to do something doesn't automatically mean that you should do it. There are responsibilities that come with rights. Rights do not exist in isolation from each other, and if you invoke you rights unquestioningly just because you have them, and don't consider the impact on others, you run the serious risk of violating someone else's rights in the processs. Which undermines the very point of rights in the first place. And that is precisely what is happening here.
Yes, he has the right to free speech (not just in America either - it's a universal right), but his actions violates Muslim's right to "freedom of thought, conscience and religion... and to manifest [their] religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance" i.e. via the Qur'an.
93: Slane
96: Cork, Dublin
00: Dublin
06: London, Dublin
07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
09: Manchester, London
10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
11: San José
12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
93: Slane
96: Cork, Dublin
00: Dublin
06: London, Dublin
07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
09: Manchester, London
10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
11: San José
12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
i cant understand how someone who represents so little gets so much time and space.
you made it, you played it, your sh**t is over-rated....that's what i have to say about all this crap.
overblown, over-reaction, over-reported, over-the-top...just like he planned....
we should just ignore ppl who do things like this, regardless of denomination or what group they are hating on today or tomorrow...
let it all be ignored and go away without any fanfare at all
then maybe they wouldn't have an incentive to do such inane assenine things
its like the 3 year old who has a tantrum so someone will notice him..ignore him and he stops crying
same idea
that's how i see it
i know a lot of you disagree...but think about it...if no one responded, what would be the point of any of these extremists continuing with this crap? really? hmmmm?
peace,
jo
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"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
my favourite part of this whole billshit is when he said theres been an agreement between him and those responsible for the cultural centre in manhattan... he stops the quran burning and theyll stop the building. yeah right little man.
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i cant understand how someone who represents so little gets so much time and space.
you made it, you played it, your sh**t is over-rated....that's what i have to say about all this crap.
overblown, over-reaction, over-reported, over-the-top...just like he planned....
we should just ignore ppl who do things like this, regardless of denomination or what group they are hating on today or tomorrow...
let it all be ignored and go away without any fanfare at all
then maybe they wouldn't have an incentive to do such inane assenine things
its like the 3 year old who has a tantrum so someone will notice him..ignore him and he stops crying
same idea
that's how i see it
i know a lot of you disagree...but think about it...if no one responded, what would be the point of any of these extremists continuing with this crap? really? hmmmm?
I don't disagree. I think that's pretty much about the size of it, theoretically. Much harder to put into practice, though.
93: Slane
96: Cork, Dublin
00: Dublin
06: London, Dublin
07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
09: Manchester, London
10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
11: San José
12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
i cant understand how someone who represents so little gets so much time and space.
you made it, you played it, your sh**t is over-rated....that's what i have to say about all this crap.
overblown, over-reaction, over-reported, over-the-top...just like he planned....
we should just ignore ppl who do things like this, regardless of denomination or what group they are hating on today or tomorrow...
let it all be ignored and go away without any fanfare at all
then maybe they wouldn't have an incentive to do such inane assenine things
its like the 3 year old who has a tantrum so someone will notice him..ignore him and he stops crying
same idea
that's how i see it
i know a lot of you disagree...but think about it...if no one responded, what would be the point of any of these extremists continuing with this crap? really? hmmmm?
I don't disagree. I think that's pretty much about the size of it, theoretically. Much harder to put into practice, though.
wolfy...i know you are right...i tend to be a bit idealistic in my thinking...it would be so nice if things could go the way i envision them, but you, the realist, are absolutely correct, much easier said than done :problem: :wave:
peace,
jo
http://www.Etsy.com/Shop/SimpleEarthCreations
"How I choose to feel is how I am." ~ EV/MMc
"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
wolfy...i know you are right...i tend to be a bit idealistic in my thinking...it would be so nice if things could go the way i envision them, but you, the realist, are absolutely correct, much easier said than done :problem: :wave:
the world needs idealists.
it would be cool if we could ignore the fools and hypocrites who hijack things for their own means.. but tis what makes us such an interestng species. how boring would it be if we all agreed on everything?? i for one would be comatose.
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Yes, he has the right to free speech (not just in America either - it's a universal right), but his actions violates Muslim's right to "freedom of thought, conscience and religion... and to manifest [their] religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance" i.e. via the Qur'an.
do you honestly think he even knows all that, i would gather to say no. all he wanted was his 15 minutes of fame just like that god hates fag cult and he got it.
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
wolfy...i know you are right...i tend to be a bit idealistic in my thinking...it would be so nice if things could go the way i envision them, but you, the realist, are absolutely correct, much easier said than done :problem: :wave:
the world needs idealists.
it would be cool if we could ignore the fools and hypocrites who hijack things for their own means.. but tis what makes us such an interestng species. how boring would it be if we all agreed on everything?? i for one would be comatose.
sure would be a lot less interesting, but a lot nicer too....boring, yes, probably, but then we always have our pj shows to perk us up! then again, you're right, what would ed rant about? and we all love those rants, right? so, for the rant's sake i can live with a little bit of unrest...but not this kind of nonsense, you know?
peace,
jo
http://www.Etsy.com/Shop/SimpleEarthCreations
"How I choose to feel is how I am." ~ EV/MMc
"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
wolfy...i know you are right...i tend to be a bit idealistic in my thinking...it would be so nice if things could go the way i envision them, but you, the realist, are absolutely correct, much easier said than done :problem: :wave:
the world needs idealists.
it would be cool if we could ignore the fools and hypocrites who hijack things for their own means.. but tis what makes us such an interestng species. how boring would it be if we all agreed on everything?? i for one would be comatose.
sure would be a lot less interesting, but a lot nicer too....boring, yes, probably, but then we always have our pj shows to perk us up! then again, you're right, what would ed rant about? and we all love those rants, right? so, for the rant's sake i can live with a little bit of unrest...but not this kind of nonsense, you know?
i dont care what ed rants about cause i dont listen to him. :shock:
i just dont see the point of what some people do.
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wolfy...i know you are right...i tend to be a bit idealistic in my thinking...it would be so nice if things could go the way i envision them, but you, the realist, are absolutely correct, much easier said than done :problem: :wave:
the world needs idealists.
it would be cool if we could ignore the fools and hypocrites who hijack things for their own means.. but tis what makes us such an interesting species. how boring would it be if we all agreed on everything?? i for one would be comatose.
i dont care what ed rants about cause i dont listen to him. :shock:
i just dont see the point of what some people do.
i can't help but listen, it's amazingly funny most of the time...i get a real kick out of it, but to each his own...i love the "shock" after you say you don't listen to him...lol! i do listen, that doesn't mean i follow, but i love the stories, the rants, the mumbles, all incredibly interesting to me, but don't ask me why, as i have no idea... i just find him to be a very complex yet and interesting man, so i suppose i do know why, now, right?
but enough about frontman before we get locked down...ooops
peace,
jo
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"How I choose to feel is how I am." ~ EV/MMc
"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
i can't help but listen, it's amazingly funny most of the time...i get a real kick out of it, but to each his own...i love the "shock" after you say you don't listen to him...lol! i do listen, that doesn't mean i follow, but i love the stories, the rants, the mumbles, all incredibly interesting to me, but don't ask me why, as i have no idea... i just find him to be a very complex yet and interesting man, so i suppose i do know why, now, right?
but enough about frontman before we get locked down...ooops
well see heres the thing... i see a lot of myself in ed and vice versa. and most of the time i dont even want to hear what i have to say so why should i want to hear what he has to say. its the same shit. its not that i dont repsect him. tis just that hes like me... but with a penis.
hear my name
take a good look
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i can't help but listen, it's amazingly funny most of the time...i get a real kick out of it, but to each his own...i love the "shock" after you say you don't listen to him...lol! i do listen, that doesn't mean i follow, but i love the stories, the rants, the mumbles, all incredibly interesting to me, but don't ask me why, as i have no idea... i just find him to be a very complex yet and interesting man, so i suppose i do know why, now, right?
but enough about frontman before we get locked down...ooops
well see heres the thing... i see a lot of myself in ed and vice versa. and most of the time i dont even want to hear what i have to say so why should i want to hear what he has to say. its the same shit. its not that i dont repsect him. tis just that hes like me... but with a penis.
well i should hope so...the penis part that is...
and catefrances...do listen to yourself...i know you do, because i've read your words...you don't give yourself enough credit...chin up girl! xoxoxoxo
peace,
jo
http://www.Etsy.com/Shop/SimpleEarthCreations
"How I choose to feel is how I am." ~ EV/MMc
"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
i can't help but listen, it's amazingly funny most of the time...i get a real kick out of it, but to each his own...i love the "shock" after you say you don't listen to him...lol! i do listen, that doesn't mean i follow, but i love the stories, the rants, the mumbles, all incredibly interesting to me, but don't ask me why, as i have no idea... i just find him to be a very complex yet and interesting man, so i suppose i do know why, now, right?
but enough about frontman before we get locked down...ooops
well see heres the thing... i see a lot of myself in ed and vice versa. and most of the time i dont even want to hear what i have to say so why should i want to hear what he has to say. its the same shit. its not that i dont repsect him. tis just that hes like me... but with a penis.
well i should hope so...the penis part that is...
and catefrances...do listen to yourself...i know you do, because i've read your words...you don't give yourself enough credit...chin up girl! xoxoxoxo
yes i do. i give myself more credit than a bank gives an over extended property developer. i know my worth. i always have.
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The fact of the matter is he has the Right to burn it, much like there is a Right to build a mosque, much like there is a Right to burn a US flag. It is all distasteful, but they all have the Right.
You can't have it both ways.
Very true - the first amendment doesn't only apply to things you like. I think the guy is a spineless idiot that doesn't know what he's doing - but he has every right to be a spineless idiot. His first amendment rights pretty much united most of the country against him... when even Palin and Obama agree, you know there's a consensus
And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
For calling off 9/11 Quran-burning, Terry Jones won a new car
With the passage of time, the antics of Terry Jones -- the grandly mustachioed Christian fundamentalist preacher who threatened to hold a Quran-burning on 9/11 -- are beginning to look more and more like a real-life episode of "Let's Make a Deal."
Back in the days leading up to the 9/11 anniversary, a New Jersey car dealer named Brad Benson made Jones a peculiar offer: call off the Quran-burning in exchange for a new car. Even though Jones did eventually cancel the universally condemned plan, Benson didn't actually expect Jones to take him up on the offer. Benson is something of a specialist in putting together outlandish publicity stunts in order to get people chattering about his dealership--for example, he'd previously offered Saddam Hussein a new car if the dictator would flee Iraq.
Jones' representative "said unless I was doing false advertising, they would like to arrange to pick up the car," Benson told the AP's Brad DeFalco. Thinking that the whole thing might be a hoax, Benson asked to see a copy of Jones' driver's license. Sure enough, the regionally renowned publicity stunt artist was indeed being contacted by the world-famous publicity stunt artist, seeking to take ownership of a new car.
After some deliberation, Benson--a former lineman for the New York Giants--resolved to stay true to his word and hand over a 2011 Hyundai Accent, which retails for $14,200. The Islam-baiting pastor will have to travel to South Brunswick, N.J., to claim it at the dealership. Since all Benson promised Jones was a new car, some of the locals are suggesting he prank the wacky preacher by painting something on the car that'd get under his skin--something like, say, a few passages from the Quran.
Jones told the Associated Press that he's not taking the car as a personal gift, and instead plans to donate it to an organization that helps abused Muslim women.
He may want to rethink that plan, though. After all, officials in Jones' home city of Gainesville, Fla., are seeking to collect more than $200,000 in expenses associated with the increased security efforts sparked by Jones' antics. If nothing else, Jones might be able to use a spacious new car to beat a hasty retreat when city auditors come to collect.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
A protest of the Quran burning in Afghanistan turned violent today and a UN building was attacked leaving 12 dead. Early reports say two of the dead were beheaded.
A protest of the Quran burning in Afghanistan turned violent today and a UN building was attacked leaving 12 dead. Early reports say two of the dead were beheaded.
well...this guy has blood on his hands now, and i hope his god will remember that on his judgement day...fucking intolerant imbecile...
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
A protest of the Quran burning in Afghanistan turned violent today and a UN building was attacked leaving 12 dead. Early reports say two of the dead were beheaded.
well...this guy has blood on his hands now, and i hope his god will remember that on his judgement day...fucking intolerant imbecile...
Terrible. Stupid thing to do, but he got what he wanted....
#1) Who kills over a burned book?
#2) Who bothers to burn a book?
A bunch of useless idiots is the answer to both questions.
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Having the right to do something doesn't automatically mean that you should do it. There are responsibilities that come with rights. Rights do not exist in isolation from each other, and if you invoke you rights unquestioningly just because you have them, and don't consider the impact on others, you run the serious risk of violating someone else's rights in the processs. Which undermines the very point of rights in the first place. And that is precisely what is happening here.
Yes, he has the right to free speech (not just in America either - it's a universal right), but his actions violates Muslim's right to "freedom of thought, conscience and religion... and to manifest [their] religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance" i.e. via the Qur'an.
96: Cork, Dublin
00: Dublin
06: London, Dublin
07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
09: Manchester, London
10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
11: San José
12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
96: Cork, Dublin
00: Dublin
06: London, Dublin
07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
09: Manchester, London
10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
11: San José
12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
http://www.wytv.com/mostpopular/story/Islamic-Holy-Book-Burns-in-North-Lima/mqxCKcsDqkiyniS_ate0Aw.cspx
I guess there's no escaping the slowest common denominator...
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you made it, you played it, your sh**t is over-rated....that's what i have to say about all this crap.
overblown, over-reaction, over-reported, over-the-top...just like he planned....
we should just ignore ppl who do things like this, regardless of denomination or what group they are hating on today or tomorrow...
let it all be ignored and go away without any fanfare at all
then maybe they wouldn't have an incentive to do such inane assenine things
its like the 3 year old who has a tantrum so someone will notice him..ignore him and he stops crying
same idea
that's how i see it
i know a lot of you disagree...but think about it...if no one responded, what would be the point of any of these extremists continuing with this crap? really? hmmmm?
jo
http://www.Etsy.com/Shop/SimpleEarthCreations
"How I choose to feel is how I am." ~ EV/MMc
"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
I don't disagree. I think that's pretty much about the size of it, theoretically. Much harder to put into practice, though.
96: Cork, Dublin
00: Dublin
06: London, Dublin
07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
09: Manchester, London
10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
11: San José
12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
wolfy...i know you are right...i tend to be a bit idealistic in my thinking...it would be so nice if things could go the way i envision them, but you, the realist, are absolutely correct, much easier said than done :problem: :wave:
jo
http://www.Etsy.com/Shop/SimpleEarthCreations
"How I choose to feel is how I am." ~ EV/MMc
"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
the world needs idealists.
it would be cool if we could ignore the fools and hypocrites who hijack things for their own means.. but tis what makes us such an interestng species. how boring would it be if we all agreed on everything?? i for one would be comatose.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
sure would be a lot less interesting, but a lot nicer too....boring, yes, probably, but then we always have our pj shows to perk us up! then again, you're right, what would ed rant about? and we all love those rants, right? so, for the rant's sake i can live with a little bit of unrest...but not this kind of nonsense, you know?
jo
http://www.Etsy.com/Shop/SimpleEarthCreations
"How I choose to feel is how I am." ~ EV/MMc
"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
i dont care what ed rants about cause i dont listen to him. :shock:
i just dont see the point of what some people do.
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easily amused are we??
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i can't help but listen, it's amazingly funny most of the time...i get a real kick out of it, but to each his own...i love the "shock" after you say you don't listen to him...lol! i do listen, that doesn't mean i follow, but i love the stories, the rants, the mumbles, all incredibly interesting to me, but don't ask me why, as i have no idea... i just find him to be a very complex yet and interesting man, so i suppose i do know why, now, right?
but enough about frontman before we get locked down...ooops
jo
http://www.Etsy.com/Shop/SimpleEarthCreations
"How I choose to feel is how I am." ~ EV/MMc
"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
well see heres the thing... i see a lot of myself in ed and vice versa. and most of the time i dont even want to hear what i have to say so why should i want to hear what he has to say. its the same shit. its not that i dont repsect him. tis just that hes like me... but with a penis.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
well i should hope so...the penis part that is...
and catefrances...do listen to yourself...i know you do, because i've read your words...you don't give yourself enough credit...chin up girl! xoxoxoxo
jo
http://www.Etsy.com/Shop/SimpleEarthCreations
"How I choose to feel is how I am." ~ EV/MMc
"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
yes i do. i give myself more credit than a bank gives an over extended property developer. i know my worth. i always have.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Very true - the first amendment doesn't only apply to things you like. I think the guy is a spineless idiot that doesn't know what he's doing - but he has every right to be a spineless idiot. His first amendment rights pretty much united most of the country against him... when even Palin and Obama agree, you know there's a consensus
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/fo ... -a-new-car
For calling off 9/11 Quran-burning, Terry Jones won a new car
With the passage of time, the antics of Terry Jones -- the grandly mustachioed Christian fundamentalist preacher who threatened to hold a Quran-burning on 9/11 -- are beginning to look more and more like a real-life episode of "Let's Make a Deal."
Back in the days leading up to the 9/11 anniversary, a New Jersey car dealer named Brad Benson made Jones a peculiar offer: call off the Quran-burning in exchange for a new car. Even though Jones did eventually cancel the universally condemned plan, Benson didn't actually expect Jones to take him up on the offer. Benson is something of a specialist in putting together outlandish publicity stunts in order to get people chattering about his dealership--for example, he'd previously offered Saddam Hussein a new car if the dictator would flee Iraq.
Jones' representative "said unless I was doing false advertising, they would like to arrange to pick up the car," Benson told the AP's Brad DeFalco. Thinking that the whole thing might be a hoax, Benson asked to see a copy of Jones' driver's license. Sure enough, the regionally renowned publicity stunt artist was indeed being contacted by the world-famous publicity stunt artist, seeking to take ownership of a new car.
After some deliberation, Benson--a former lineman for the New York Giants--resolved to stay true to his word and hand over a 2011 Hyundai Accent, which retails for $14,200. The Islam-baiting pastor will have to travel to South Brunswick, N.J., to claim it at the dealership. Since all Benson promised Jones was a new car, some of the locals are suggesting he prank the wacky preacher by painting something on the car that'd get under his skin--something like, say, a few passages from the Quran.
Jones told the Associated Press that he's not taking the car as a personal gift, and instead plans to donate it to an organization that helps abused Muslim women.
He may want to rethink that plan, though. After all, officials in Jones' home city of Gainesville, Fla., are seeking to collect more than $200,000 in expenses associated with the increased security efforts sparked by Jones' antics. If nothing else, Jones might be able to use a spacious new car to beat a hasty retreat when city auditors come to collect.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_afghanistan
A protest of the Quran burning in Afghanistan turned violent today and a UN building was attacked leaving 12 dead. Early reports say two of the dead were beheaded.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Terrible. Stupid thing to do, but he got what he wanted....
#1) Who kills over a burned book?
#2) Who bothers to burn a book?
A bunch of useless idiots is the answer to both questions.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."