Fire at proposed Tenn. mosque site...coincidence??

wolfamongwolves

TriumphantAngel wrote:

dunkman wrote:

i'd bet they are better at grammar also.

fucking mixing up then and than... how simple could it be.

that's what happens when you could care less.

Grrrr.... :evil:
That's one of my grammatical pet hates. Never understood why Americans say "I could care less" when what they actually mean is exactly the opposite of that.


And how has this thread turned into a grammar discussion? Nice one, Dunk! :?

Jason P

dunkman wrote:

mickeyrat wrote:

catefrances wrote:

you mean like how the amish separate themselves from modern america???

Tell me Cate how The Amish do this. I live in a state with a signifigant Amish population. They interact daily with "modern" America.Sell their goods and buy goods. Seems to me that the only thing different is HOW they live in America. Just because they call the rest of America "The English" doesn't mean a thing.

the Amish do separate themselves from modern America... I can't understand why you would argue to the contrary

They do an varying levels. There are lots of different factions. Some drive, use cell phones, have A/C, etc. There are lots of "loop holes" such as they can't have a phone in their house, but they can use one hooked up just outside their property. It really depends on how liberal the leader of each church is.

They do quite a bit of business transactions with Modern America. Lots of skilled tradesmen, electricians (as odd as it seems), bakers, etc. But for the most part, they do isolate themselves outside of business interactions.

dunkman

Jason P wrote:

dunkman wrote:

mickeyrat wrote:

Tell me Cate how The Amish do this. I live in a state with a signifigant Amish population. They interact daily with "modern" America.Sell their goods and buy goods. Seems to me that the only thing different is HOW they live in America. Just because they call the rest of America "The English" doesn't mean a thing.

the Amish do separate themselves from modern America... I can't understand why you would argue to the contrary

They do an varying levels. There are lots of different factions. Some drive, use cell phones, have A/C, etc. There are lots of "loop holes" such as they can't have a phone in their house, but they can use one hooked up just outside their property. It really depends on how liberal the leader of each church is.

They do quite a bit of business transactions with Modern America. Lots of skilled tradesmen, electricians (as odd as it seems), bakers, etc. But for the most part, they do isolate themselves outside of business interactions.

yep.. i know. I would still say that they live separate from America.... just as I would say native americans living on a reservation are separate from America.

dunkman

TriumphantAngel wrote:

dunkman wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

I'll take that bet.

i'd bet they are better at grammar also.

fucking mixing up then and than... how simple could it be.

that's what happens when you could care less.

i care more then you

Jason P

dunkman wrote:

Jason P wrote:

They do an varying levels. There are lots of different factions. Some drive, use cell phones, have A/C, etc. There are lots of "loop holes" such as they can't have a phone in their house, but they can use one hooked up just outside their property. It really depends on how liberal the leader of each church is.

They do quite a bit of business transactions with Modern America. Lots of skilled tradesmen, electricians (as odd as it seems), bakers, etc. But for the most part, they do isolate themselves outside of business interactions.

yep.. i know. I would still say that they live separate from America.... just as I would say native americans living on a reservation are separate from America.

And don't forget about the Mormons living a separate life in Utah

gimmesometruth27

well no shit...apparently it takes an entire scientific team to determine the obvious...

Authorities: Fire at Tenn. mosque site was arson

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100903/ap_ ... see_mosque

MURFREESBORO, Tenn. – Federal investigators said Friday that a suspicious fire that damaged construction equipment at the site of a future mosque in Tennessee was arson and offered a $20,000 reward for information leading to an arrest.

The blaze frightened members of the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro, which has found its plans to build a new mosque drawn into a fierce debate surrounding a proposed Islamic community center two blocks from Manhattan's ground zero.

Firefighters had said there was a strong smell of diesel from the fire that engulfed the cab of a dump truck last weekend, and authorities found fresh fuel pooled under a second dump truck, according to an incident report from the Rutherford County Sheriff's Department.

Still, authorities did not officially rule the fire an arson until laboratory tests on samples from the burned dump truck tested positive for accelerants.

The U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and FBI is offering a $20,000 reward to anyone with information leading to an arrest.

"Somebody knows something," ATF agent Steven Gerido said. "The money is a motivator."

Gerido would not say whether the agency has any suspects.

FBI agent Keith Moses said the FBI would not decide whether the arson was a hate crime — motivated by someone hoping to intimidate local Muslims — until after suspects are identified and their motives are determined.

The Islamic Center of Murfreesboro has outgrown its current rented space in an industrial park. Members got approval to build a new mosque in May. Since then opposition to the building has made international news, with some opponents saying they fear Muslims want to overthrow the U.S. government.

One mosque leader, Essam Fathy, has speculated that the perpetrator is not from the area and that new attention has been drawn to the Tennessee project by the ground zero dispute. Members of the Murfreesboro mosque say they have lived and worshipped in the community for years and never caused any problems.

Safaa Fathy, an Islamic Center board member, said her family has been in Murfreesboro since the early 1980s. She has been very surprised by some of the recent hostility, saying even after 9/11 local Muslims had no problems.

But she is heartened by some of the positive responses the mosque has received from people of different religions around the country.

"We got a nice letter today from someone in Utah. He sent $50 and said it was all he has," she said. "It meant a lot to me. I cried when I read his letter."

Commy

i wonder if this is the kind of thing the mosque in NY has to look forward to if it gets built. How far will they go? breaking glass and protests or will it get to arson and bombings?

gimmesometruth27

Commy wrote:

i wonder if this is the kind of thing the mosque in NY has to look forward to if it gets built. How far will they go? breaking glass and protests or will it get to arson and bombings?

based on the opposition that already exists i would not be surprised to hear about arson and bombings in addition to pure hatred...