Fire at proposed Tenn. mosque site...coincidence??

gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
edited September 2010 in A Moving Train
is this coincidental????


Fire at proposed Tenn. mosque site probed by feds

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100830/ap_ ... _site_fire

MURFREESBORO, Tenn. – Supporters from across the country have called to give encouragement to a suburban Nashville mosque where a fire was the latest setback for a planned new building, officials said Sunday.

Authorities told mosque officials that four pieces of heavy construction equipment on the site were doused with an accelerant and one set ablaze, said Camie Ayash, spokeswoman for the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro. Federal investigators have not ruled it arson, saying only that the fire was being probed and asked the public to call in tips. Earlier, Ayash said that gasoline was poured on the equipment but later backed off that statement.

"No threats, not at all," since the fire, Ayash told The Associated Press. "We've had a tremendous amount of calls of support."

American Muslim leaders say the furor over the building of a mosque near ground zero has emboldened opposition groups to resist new mosques elsewhere.

Some say they oppose them because of infrastructure and traffic problems. Others have implied that the mosque would be a haven for terrorists.

The Islamic Center of Murfreesboro's planned expansion has drawn increasingly vehement opposition from the community in recent weeks. The proposed center on 15 acres would serve some 250 families.

Digging had begun at the site where a sign that marks it as the future Islamic Center of Murfreesboro has been vandalized twice in the past several months. But Ayash said the fire "makes everybody really on edge."

Ayash said Islamic Center officials were contacted by the sheriff's department around 4 a.m. Saturday. Someone walking by called in the fire to 911 about 1:30 a.m.

Rutherford County resident Kevin Fisher has led protests against the mosque he says because of zoning issues, parking, traffic and a lack of transparency in the county's planning approval process. He issued a statement Saturday to the Daily News Journal of Murfreesboro.

"We in this community believe strongly in the rule of law, and choose to settle our disagreements through peaceful deliberations and discussion, not vigilantism. ... We who stand in opposition to this mosque have made our concerns known through proper legal channels and have conducted ourselves with dignity, respect and out of a spirit of love for our community, and we will continue to do so."
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    where accelerant is used there is no coincidence.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    i was asking if it ws conicidence that there were protests there last week, now there is a fire.

    the article says they were doused, but the feds have not called it arson. if the equipment was doused and set ablaze, how is that not arson???
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    oh ok then. i dont believe in coincidence.

    the feds arent calling it arson cause theyre hedging their bets... either that or they dont have the balls to call it.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    i think it is fairly obvious that is was arson just based on the fact that an accelerant was used. i think it is only going to make those that are against this mosque look like extremists and i think it will hurt their cause.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    what cause would that be i wonder.... intolerance???
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  • Nittany1bnNittany1bn Near Philadelphia Posts: 214
    i like how the opposition's statement calls it "vigilantism" as if it's somehow illegal to build a mosque and the arsonists are dishing out some kind of justice.
  • South of SeattleSouth of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    what cause would that be i wonder.... intolerance???
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    I suppose they should have expected it... building is so close to 'Ground Zero' and all. They need to have more respect for the people who died on 9/11.
    ...
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  • cajunkiwicajunkiwi Posts: 984
    Waaaaaaaiiiiiiittt a minute... isn't America the most tolerant nation in the world when it comes to Muslims?

    Prfctlefts? I'm looking in your direction... lol
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  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    Nittany1bn wrote:
    i like how the opposition's statement calls it "vigilantism" as if it's somehow illegal to build a mosque and the arsonists are dishing out some kind of justice.
    Just the new America Superhero on another day's work.
    Bigot Boy... out to save America from decency, one mosque at a time.
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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    this fire clearly has nothing to do with the religion... just the location
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    haffajappa wrote:
    Just the new America Superhero on another day's work.
    Bigot Boy... out to save America from decency, one mosque at a time.
    ...
    Able to burn down an Al Qaeda Victory Terrorist Trainning Camp (a.k.a Islamic Cultural Center) that is way too close to 'Ground Zero' with a single match*.
    ...
    * along with two quarts of Kingsford Charcoal lighter fluid... and a couple of road flares.
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  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    Cosmo wrote:
    haffajappa wrote:
    Just the new America Superhero on another day's work.
    Bigot Boy... out to save America from decency, one mosque at a time.
    ...
    Able to burn down an Al Qaeda Victory Terrorist Trainning Camp (a.k.a Islamic Cultural Center) that is way too close to 'Ground Zero' with a single match*.
    ...
    * along with two quarts of Kingsford Charcoal lighter fluid... and a couple of road flares.
    Bigot Boy, Bigot Boy...
    Vigilance from terrorist ploys...

    Makes a fire, any size...
    Saving us, from the bad guys...

    LOOK OUTTTT here come's the bigot boyyy
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    _outlaw wrote:
    this fire clearly has nothing to do with the religion... just the location

    clearly. :roll:
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  • __ Posts: 6,651
    haffajappa wrote:
    Bigot Boy, Bigot Boy...
    Vigilance from terrorist ploys...

    Makes a fire, any size...
    Saving us, from the bad guys...

    LOOK OUTTTT here come's the bigot boyyy
    :lol::lol::lol: :(
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    what worries me in new york with all this opposition......say they build the cultural center...what happens to the protestors? are tehy done, defeated? or do the go this route and start lighting things on fire or exploding them?




    islamaphobia could lead to violence. the news stations lighting the fuel need wake up.
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    Commy wrote:
    what worries me in new york with all this opposition......say they build the cultural center...what happens to the protestors? are tehy done, defeated? or do the go this route and start lighting things on fire or exploding them?




    islamaphobia could lead to violence. the news stations lighting the fuel need wake up.
    they go this route and sadly it will happen
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  • chimechime Posts: 7,839
    The 'Ground Zero Mosque' is now making the news here in the UK.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... ero-mosque
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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    chime wrote:
    The 'Ground Zero Mosque' is now making the news here in the UK.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... ero-mosque
    tell them its not a mosque and it isn't at ground zero. all religions are welcome to preach there
  • chimechime Posts: 7,839
    Commy wrote:
    chime wrote:
    The 'Ground Zero Mosque' is now making the news here in the UK.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... ero-mosque
    tell them its not a mosque and it isn't at ground zero. all religions are welcome to preach there

    Did you read the article? What you've written is basically what the article says.
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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    chime wrote:
    Commy wrote:
    chime wrote:
    The 'Ground Zero Mosque' is now making the news here in the UK.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... ero-mosque
    tell them its not a mosque and it isn't at ground zero. all religions are welcome to preach there

    Did you read the article? What you've written is basically what the article says.
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  • acoustic guyacoustic guy Posts: 3,770
    is this coincidental????


    Fire at proposed Tenn. mosque site probed by feds

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100830/ap_ ... _site_fire

    MURFREESBORO, Tenn. – Supporters from across the country have called to give encouragement to a suburban Nashville mosque where a fire was the latest setback for a planned new building, officials said Sunday.

    Authorities told mosque officials that four pieces of heavy construction equipment on the site were doused with an accelerant and one set ablaze, said Camie Ayash, spokeswoman for the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro. Federal investigators have not ruled it arson, saying only that the fire was being probed and asked the public to call in tips. Earlier, Ayash said that gasoline was poured on the equipment but later backed off that statement.

    "No threats, not at all," since the fire, Ayash told The Associated Press. "We've had a tremendous amount of calls of support."

    American Muslim leaders say the furor over the building of a mosque near ground zero has emboldened opposition groups to resist new mosques elsewhere.

    Some say they oppose them because of infrastructure and traffic problems. Others have implied that the mosque would be a haven for terrorists.

    The Islamic Center of Murfreesboro's planned expansion has drawn increasingly vehement opposition from the community in recent weeks. The proposed center on 15 acres would serve some 250 families.

    Digging had begun at the site where a sign that marks it as the future Islamic Center of Murfreesboro has been vandalized twice in the past several months. But Ayash said the fire "makes everybody really on edge."

    Ayash said Islamic Center officials were contacted by the sheriff's department around 4 a.m. Saturday. Someone walking by called in the fire to 911 about 1:30 a.m.

    Rutherford County resident Kevin Fisher has led protests against the mosque he says because of zoning issues, parking, traffic and a lack of transparency in the county's planning approval process. He issued a statement Saturday to the Daily News Journal of Murfreesboro.

    "We in this community believe strongly in the rule of law, and choose to settle our disagreements through peaceful deliberations and discussion, not vigilantism. ... We who stand in opposition to this mosque have made our concerns known through proper legal channels and have conducted ourselves with dignity, respect and out of a spirit of love for our community, and we will continue to do so."

    Then why do they wanna live seperate from Americans? Why do they wanna have their own private spread for only Muslims?
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Then why do they wanna live seperate from Americans? Why do they wanna have their own private spread for only Muslims?
    ...
    Why do you think they want to 'live seperately'? Having a place to worship is living seperately? Did you know, you can walk into a Mosque... even if you are not Muslim? Of course, you have to pay the respects of that religion, such as removal of your shoes, (just as you should pay equal respects to houses of other religions)... but, no one will restrict your entrance.
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  • acoustic guyacoustic guy Posts: 3,770
    Cosmo wrote:
    Then why do they wanna live seperate from Americans? Why do they wanna have their own private spread for only Muslims?
    ...
    Why do you think they want to 'live seperately'? Having a place to worship is living seperately? Did you know, you can walk into a Mosque... even if you are not Muslim? Of course, you have to pay the respects of that religion, such as removal of your shoes, (just as you should pay equal respects to houses of other religions)... but, no one will restrict your entrance.
    15 acres for 250 families.........seems they wanna be seperated from Americans while living IN America. Right?
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  • __ Posts: 6,651
    Cosmo wrote:
    Then why do they wanna live seperate from Americans? Why do they wanna have their own private spread for only Muslims?
    ...
    Why do you think they want to 'live seperately'? Having a place to worship is living seperately? Did you know, you can walk into a Mosque... even if you are not Muslim? Of course, you have to pay the respects of that religion, such as removal of your shoes, (just as you should pay equal respects to houses of other religions)... but, no one will restrict your entrance.
    15 acres for 250 families.........seems they wanna be seperated from Americans while living IN America. Right?

    How is it any of your business anyway?
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    chime wrote:
    The 'Ground Zero Mosque' is now making the news here in the UK.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... ero-mosque

    Perhaps spatial reality functions differently on the other side of the Atlantic, but here in London, something that is "two minutes' walk and round a corner" from something else isn't actually "in" the same place at all. I once had a poo in a pub about two minutes' walk from Buckingham Palace. I was not subsequently arrested and charged with crapping directly onto the Queen's pillow. That's how "distance" works in Britain. It's also how distance works in America, of course, but some people are currently pretending it doesn't, for daft political ends.

    New York being a densely populated city, there are lots of other buildings and businesses within two blocks of Ground Zero, including a McDonald's and a Burger King, neither of which has yet been accused of serving milkshakes and fries on hallowed ground. Regardless, for the opponents of Cordoba House, two blocks is too close, period. Frustratingly, they haven't produced a map pinpointing precisely how close is OK.

    :lol::lol::lol:
    its really funny how the rest of the world see's it this way too...
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Cosmo wrote:
    Then why do they wanna live seperate from Americans? Why do they wanna have their own private spread for only Muslims?
    ...
    Why do you think they want to 'live seperately'? Having a place to worship is living seperately? Did you know, you can walk into a Mosque... even if you are not Muslim? Of course, you have to pay the respects of that religion, such as removal of your shoes, (just as you should pay equal respects to houses of other religions)... but, no one will restrict your entrance.
    15 acres for 250 families.........seems they wanna be seperated from Americans while living IN America. Right?
    ...
    I understand... yeah, it's the 'Daily Show'... but, they do bring some facts into light...
    15 Acres of the 30 year old Islamic Center that will service 250 families in the area.
    Now... let me ask you... do you live on the site of your Christian Community Center with all of the Christian families in the area?
    I'm guessing, No. People don't 'live' in a community center... they play basketball, baseball there... play on the swings and have family outings on the grass... hold services and make paper dolls. You have to be one step below moron to believe that all 250 families will be living on the 15 acre community center grounds.
    Here is the Daily Show report... funny because it's sad... sad because it's true.
    http://blogs.tennessean.com/blog/2010/t ... ro-mosque/
    ...
    ADD: Here... this is a non-Daily Show (less entertaining) article on the Islamic Center in Tennessee:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20100821/u ... 9201184700
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    scb wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Why do you think they want to 'live seperately'? Having a place to worship is living seperately? Did you know, you can walk into a Mosque... even if you are not Muslim? Of course, you have to pay the respects of that religion, such as removal of your shoes, (just as you should pay equal respects to houses of other religions)... but, no one will restrict your entrance.
    15 acres for 250 families.........seems they wanna be seperated from Americans while living IN America. Right?

    How is it any of your business anyway?

    No kidding. As long as they don't take up arms or start marrying off 14 year olds to the religious leaders and other men, I don't see a problem.
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  • __ Posts: 6,651
    edited August 2010
    Cosmo wrote:
    Then why do they wanna live seperate from Americans? Why do they wanna have their own private spread for only Muslims?
    ...
    Why do you think they want to 'live seperately'? Having a place to worship is living seperately? Did you know, you can walk into a Mosque... even if you are not Muslim? Of course, you have to pay the respects of that religion, such as removal of your shoes, (just as you should pay equal respects to houses of other religions)... but, no one will restrict your entrance.
    15 acres for 250 families.........seems they wanna be seperated from Americans while living IN America. Right?

    Wait - I just re-read this. How can they be separated from Americans when they ARE Americans???
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    scb wrote:
    15 acres for 250 families.........seems they wanna be seperated from Americans while living IN America. Right?

    Wait - I just re-read this. How can they be separated from Americans (even though they don't) when they ARE Americans???
    ...
    I think... he is implying that all 250 families are going to live on the 15 acre plot... like some sort of Al Qaeda Terrorist co-op. It would be the same as us believing that 250 Christian families would want to all live in a Young Man's Christian Association facility in order to blow up abortion clinics and make 'God Hates Fags' signs to display at funerals of dead soldiers.
    Of course, both beliefs are completelty unfounded and only the dim witted amongst us would ever believe such nonsense, right?
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