I never claimed you invented the pic. I just stated that it was not of an IDF soldier as your post implied.
For once we are all in agreement that this practice of taking your picture with detainees or the bodies of terrorists is disgusting and horrid and that the people doing it should be sent to jail no matter where in the world it happens.
My point before was that if you are making a statement against a certain person and post a picture of some one else, from a different country, that is kind of mis-leading.
I am not familiar with the documentary stated here and I thank you for the link.
EDIT: Sad to say I can not watch the vid because it only streams in the US.
Still can't believe I met Mike Mccready at the Guggenheim and got a pic with him!!!!!
2010: 9/7/10 - Bilbao
2012: 26-27/6/12 - Amsterdam ~~ 29/6/12 - Werchter ~~ 4-5/7/12 - Berlin
2014: 25/6/14 - Vienna ~~ 26/6/14 - Berlin
i'm not surprised she doesn't think she did anything wrong. ater all, like a lot of Israeli Jews, she considers non-Jews, Arabs in particular, to be subhuman.
i usually agree with you on thing's but this sweeping statement is something like prfctlfts would write about the left in america and muslims, so lets keep the debate civil
EDIT: Sad to say I can not watch the vid because it only streams in the US.
me too,cant watch it in Greece
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
i'm not surprised she doesn't think she did anything wrong. ater all, like a lot of Israeli Jews, she considers non-Jews, Arabs in particular, to be subhuman.
i usually agree with you on thing's but this sweeping statement is something like prfctlfts would write about the left in america and muslims, so lets keep the debate civil
i'll take the feedback on board, thank you. things is though, i didn't say all.
considering 80% of Israelis supported the massacare in Gaza in January 2009 when 1400 people were murdered, and considered it a job well done, and considering i am completely against the occupation, you might need to excuse me for feeling that Israeli Jews think that Palestinians are subhuman.
hundreds of those killed were women and children, satansbed,
i'm not surprised she doesn't think she did anything wrong. ater all, like a lot of Israeli Jews, she considers non-Jews, Arabs in particular, to be subhuman.
i usually agree with you on thing's but this sweeping statement is something like prfctlfts would write about the left in america and muslims, so lets keep the debate civil
i'll take the feedback on board, thank you. things is though, i didn't say all.
considering 80% of Israelis supported the massacare in Gaza in January 2009 when 1400 people were murdered, and considered it a job well done, and considering i am completely against the occupation, you might need to excuse me for feeling that Israeli Jews think that Palestinians are subhuman.
hundreds of those killed were women and children, satansbed,
it does seem to be a pervasive mentality. you have soldiers posing with corpses, polls showing mass murder is a job well done.....i think "a lot" was the phrase used, accurate imo.
For once we are all in agreement that this practice of taking your picture with detainees or the bodies of terrorists is disgusting and horrid and that the people doing it should be sent to jail
you're making it seem like all people killed are terrorists, which is very misleading.
operation cast lead killed more innocent Gazans than not.
EDIT: Sad to say I can not watch the vid because it only streams in the US.
me too,cant watch it in Greece
that's a shame. i know you can get it via a torrent, but i'm way too technologically backward to figure out how to do it for you guys. if you google it you will see it there. there's more information here if anyone is interested. for some reason it's been taken off you tube and most of the sites that you could watch it on before.
i wish everyone would take the time to watch it if they can. the story revolves around 6 Israeli women and their expereiences in the IDF.
it's a very good documentary. the title 'to see if i am smiling", came about because one of the girls talked about how her job as a medic involved her washing the bodies of dead Palestinians and cleaning them up as best she could, so that she was able to hide signs of abuse before the bodies were released to the families.
she had her picture taken with one of the corpses and was smiling and joking around. she had not looked at the photo for quite some time and in the documentary she wanted to look at it again 'to see if i'm still smiling"
it was very difficult to watch, they talked about their hatred for Arabs and how they humiliated and ridiculed them. there was an education officer who said there were many pictures with dead bodies that soldiers took and how it didn't feel abnormal to do that. there was also much discussion about the affect the compulsory service has had on their lives.
how can she still not understand that what she did was wrong? this is what she wrote on her facebook today....
'I would gladly kill Arabs - even slaughter them'
In new bid to defend publishing controversial images, former IDF soldier Eden Abergil writes on Facebook 'In war there are no rules.'
Eden Abergil, the former Israel Defense Forces soldier who has been criticized for publishing controversial images on Facebook, allegedly wrote on her Facebook page on Thursday that she would "gladly kill Arabs – even slaughter them."
Abergil responded on Facebook to an image in which a women was pasted instead of the Palestinian prisoners in the original images, saying that it was not funny and that she would not let anyone ruin her "perfect life."
"I can't allow Arab lovers to ruin the perfect life I lead," she allegedly wrote. "I am not sorry and I don’t regret it."
Eden Abergil: “Yeah I know lol mummy what a day it was look how he completes my picture, I wonder if he’s got Facebook! I have to tag him in the picture! lol”
Shani Cohen: “LOL you psycho… I wonder who’s the photographerrrrr”
Shani Cohen: “Eden… he’s got a hard-on for you… lol for sure!!!”
Eden Abergil: Lol no honey he’s got a hard-on for youuu this is why you took that picture lol you took my picture!!!!”
don't compete; coexist
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
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when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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For once we are all in agreement that this practice of taking your picture with detainees or the bodies of terrorists is disgusting and horrid and that the people doing it should be sent to jail no matter where in the world it happens.
My point before was that if you are making a statement against a certain person and post a picture of some one else, from a different country, that is kind of mis-leading.
I am not familiar with the documentary stated here and I thank you for the link.
EDIT: Sad to say I can not watch the vid because it only streams in the US.
2010: 9/7/10 - Bilbao
2012: 26-27/6/12 - Amsterdam ~~ 29/6/12 - Werchter ~~ 4-5/7/12 - Berlin
2014: 25/6/14 - Vienna ~~ 26/6/14 - Berlin
especially when it involves prisons etc
http://www.prisonexp.org/
i usually agree with you on thing's but this sweeping statement is something like prfctlfts would write about the left in america and muslims, so lets keep the debate civil
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
considering 80% of Israelis supported the massacare in Gaza in January 2009 when 1400 people were murdered, and considered it a job well done, and considering i am completely against the occupation, you might need to excuse me for feeling that Israeli Jews think that Palestinians are subhuman.
hundreds of those killed were women and children, satansbed,
Edit to add link:
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/ne ... a-1.268162
it does seem to be a pervasive mentality. you have soldiers posing with corpses, polls showing mass murder is a job well done.....i think "a lot" was the phrase used, accurate imo.
you're making it seem like all people killed are terrorists, which is very misleading.
operation cast lead killed more innocent Gazans than not.
i wish everyone would take the time to watch it if they can. the story revolves around 6 Israeli women and their expereiences in the IDF.
it's a very good documentary. the title 'to see if i am smiling", came about because one of the girls talked about how her job as a medic involved her washing the bodies of dead Palestinians and cleaning them up as best she could, so that she was able to hide signs of abuse before the bodies were released to the families.
she had her picture taken with one of the corpses and was smiling and joking around. she had not looked at the photo for quite some time and in the documentary she wanted to look at it again 'to see if i'm still smiling"
it was very difficult to watch, they talked about their hatred for Arabs and how they humiliated and ridiculed them. there was an education officer who said there were many pictures with dead bodies that soldiers took and how it didn't feel abnormal to do that. there was also much discussion about the affect the compulsory service has had on their lives.
http://www.slantmagazine.com/house/tag/ ... m-smiling/
'I would gladly kill Arabs - even slaughter them'
In new bid to defend publishing controversial images, former IDF soldier Eden Abergil writes on Facebook 'In war there are no rules.'
Eden Abergil, the former Israel Defense Forces soldier who has been criticized for publishing controversial images on Facebook, allegedly wrote on her Facebook page on Thursday that she would "gladly kill Arabs – even slaughter them."
Abergil responded on Facebook to an image in which a women was pasted instead of the Palestinian prisoners in the original images, saying that it was not funny and that she would not let anyone ruin her "perfect life."
"I can't allow Arab lovers to ruin the perfect life I lead," she allegedly wrote. "I am not sorry and I don’t regret it."
http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/i- ... bled=false
how is this a war? like the Israeli assault on Gaza was a "war?"
some facts for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bznLR3-kCtU
Israel
Attack Helicopters 78
F-16's 299
Tanks 3,650
Overall Deaths 13
Palestinians
Attack Helicopters 0
F-16's 0
Tanks 0
Overall deaths 1,417
The Palestinians arsenal consisted of home made rockets.
Overall Israeli Deaths 13
Death from home made rockets 4
According to B'Tselem (an Israeli Human Rights Organization)
76% of the Palestinians killed were not combatants
24% were children.
during the assualt, Israel barred journalists from entering Gaza. they reported from a hill which overlooks Gaza,
they called it the 'hill of shame''
318 children were killed by Israeli troops during the assault.
how anyone can call that a war is beyond me. it's a massacare.
http://reider.wordpress.com/2010/08/16/ ... prisoners/
Adi Tal: “You’re the sexiest like that…”
Eden Abergil: “Yeah I know lol mummy what a day it was look how he completes my picture, I wonder if he’s got Facebook! I have to tag him in the picture! lol”
Shani Cohen: “LOL you psycho… I wonder who’s the photographerrrrr”
Shani Cohen: “Eden… he’s got a hard-on for you… lol for sure!!!”
Eden Abergil: Lol no honey he’s got a hard-on for youuu this is why you took that picture lol you took my picture!!!!”
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'