WELL DONE USA

13

Comments

  • ONCE DEVIDED
    ONCE DEVIDED Posts: 1,131
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    you do understand that when you start a thread, it's an invite for other people to contribute to the thread, and the reality is that sometimes not everyone is going to agree with you.

    the points i raised were that it's taken 65 years for this to happen. President Obama talks so much of his push to rid the world of nucleur weapons and yet the US still thinks they can dictate to everyone who can and can't have them. the global nuclear weapons stockpile is estimated to amount to about 150,000 Hiroshima bombs. America and Russia have 22,000 between them.

    so i understand that you might want to pat the US on the back for finally sending a representative to the rememberance ceremony. you say it's a start, but what is it a start to?

    the irony is Japan has no nukes yet the Country that Nuked them has so many it's a wonder they can even keep track of them.

    wouldn't a real show of solidarity at one of the rememberance ceremonies be so much better if America stood alongside Japan nucleur free?

    you can't expect people who feel strongly about this to not say how they feel about it. that's the whole point of debating with someone. we won't always agree.
    celebrate peace or feed anger and hatred
    you decide
    AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE
  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    ONCE DEVIDED wrote:
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    you do understand that when you start a thread, it's an invite for other people to contribute to the thread, and the reality is that sometimes not everyone is going to agree with you.

    the points i raised were that it's taken 65 years for this to happen. President Obama talks so much of his push to rid the world of nucleur weapons and yet the US still thinks they can dictate to everyone who can and can't have them. the global nuclear weapons stockpile is estimated to amount to about 150,000 Hiroshima bombs. America and Russia have 22,000 between them.

    so i understand that you might want to pat the US on the back for finally sending a representative to the rememberance ceremony. you say it's a start, but what is it a start to?

    the irony is Japan has no nukes yet the Country that Nuked them has so many it's a wonder they can even keep track of them.

    wouldn't a real show of solidarity at one of the rememberance ceremonies be so much better if America stood alongside Japan nucleur free?

    you can't expect people who feel strongly about this to not say how they feel about it. that's the whole point of debating with someone. we won't always agree.
    celebrate peace or feed anger and hatred
    you decide
    there is no anger or hatred in my post. just stating facts. the two don't always have to be connected you know.

    just an open mind for a different view. that's all.
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    ONCE DEVIDED wrote:
    ITs fucking nothing but stupid to hate sombody for what there granparents did. just completely stupid.
    BUT SO MANY CLING TO IT
    DOES IT KEEP YOU WARM, make you happy.
    I don't see any hate in here, just opinions on why we should not apologize...
    Also to your quote, your right so why should we apologize for something that someone else did? No of us had anything to do with it, why would i apologize for it?
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkmmPlTg ... r_embedded
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    you do understand that when you start a thread, it's an invite for other people to contribute to the thread, and the reality is that sometimes not everyone is going to agree with you.

    the points i raised were that it's taken 65 years for this to happen. President Obama talks so much of his push to rid the world of nucleur weapons and yet the US still thinks they can dictate to everyone who can and can't have them. the global nuclear weapons stockpile is estimated to amount to about 150,000 Hiroshima bombs. America and Russia have 22,000 between them.

    so i understand that you might want to pat the US on the back for finally sending a representative to the rememberance ceremony. you say it's a start, but what is it a start to?

    the irony is Japan has no nukes, yet the Country that Nuked them has so many it's a wonder they can even keep track of them.

    wouldn't a real show of solidarity at one of the rememberance ceremonies be for America to stand alongside Japan nucleur free?

    you can't expect people who feel strongly about this to not say how they feel about it. that's the whole point of debating with someone. we won't always agree.



    Only someone in La-La land would actualy think that america could get rid of all it's nukes. Like the rest of the planet is going to follow suit. You really believe that counties like N. Korea and Iran would give a shit if we were nuke free? I know you have a vision of everyone on earth dancing in the prairie fields but i'm sorry.....it's never going to happen.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    you do understand that when you start a thread, it's an invite for other people to contribute to the thread, and the reality is that sometimes not everyone is going to agree with you.

    the points i raised were that it's taken 65 years for this to happen. President Obama talks so much of his push to rid the world of nucleur weapons and yet the US still thinks they can dictate to everyone who can and can't have them. the global nuclear weapons stockpile is estimated to amount to about 150,000 Hiroshima bombs. America and Russia have 22,000 between them.

    so i understand that you might want to pat the US on the back for finally sending a representative to the rememberance ceremony. you say it's a start, but what is it a start to?

    the irony is Japan has no nukes, yet the Country that Nuked them has so many it's a wonder they can even keep track of them.

    wouldn't a real show of solidarity at one of the rememberance ceremonies be for America to stand alongside Japan nucleur free?

    you can't expect people who feel strongly about this to not say how they feel about it. that's the whole point of debating with someone. we won't always agree.



    Only someone in La-La land would actualy think that america could get rid of all it's nukes. Like the rest of the planet is going to follow suit. You really believe that counties like N. Korea and Iran would give a shit if we were nuke free? I know you have a vision of everyone on earth dancing in the prairie fields but i'm sorry.....it's never going to happen.

    but you know what?? sometimes its about whats right. and being nuclear armed is not right. what other countries do or what other countries think shouldnt come into the equation. its about what you as a country or as an individual can live with and how you justify that, if you feel that need. i believe that annihilation is deterrant enough. call me naive or idealistic if you want.. but i will never be of the opinion that mankind will, if given an alternative, which choice does gives him, choose to use nuclear weapons. the price is just too high.
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    what other countries do or what other countries think shouldnt come into the equation

    :lol::lol::lol:
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Hypothetically.

    If Iran was responsible for a nuclear bomb in NY, and 3 million were killed, what would be your reply?
  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    unsung wrote:
    Hypothetically.

    If Iran was responsible for a nuclear bomb in NY, and 3 million were killed, what would be your reply?
    That the US would have never surrendered... so it was necessary.
    live pearl jam is best pearl jam
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    And what about the reverse? What does it matter who do what to whom? The fact is these weapons are terrible for the world, no matter who holds them.. .so let's get rid of them before they get used. That's the point.
    unsung wrote:
    Hypothetically.

    If Iran was responsible for a nuclear bomb in NY, and 3 million were killed, what would be your reply?
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    OK, I'll revise.

    If your home country was attacked by another with a nuclear weapon where 3 million + were killed, what should be your home country's response?

    By response I mean action.
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    I'm not really sure to be honest. Life isn't as simple as it once was. In WW2 we had definitive nations as enemies, nowadays, it's more mishmash of factions and groups (terrorists, extremists and fanatics). Some represent nations, others hold no boundaries, so a simplistic response like saying "bomb them back" doesn't really hold the same meaning. Also, even if we wanted to go through to logistics of such an example, what good would killing 3 million of the enemy really prove? Seems like an action out of spite, anger and vengeance compared to a legitimate response.
    unsung wrote:
    OK, I'll revise.

    If your home country was attacked by another with a nuclear weapon where 3 million + were killed, what should be your home country's response?

    By response I mean action.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • ONCE DEVIDED
    ONCE DEVIDED Posts: 1,131
    HeidiJam wrote:
    ONCE DEVIDED wrote:
    ITs fucking nothing but stupid to hate sombody for what there granparents did. just completely stupid.
    BUT SO MANY CLING TO IT
    DOES IT KEEP YOU WARM, make you happy.
    I don't see any hate in here, just opinions on why we should not apologize...
    Also to your quote, your right so why should we apologize for something that someone else did? No of us had anything to do with it, why would i apologize for it?
    nobody has asked for apology
    just was happy that an american representative attended after 65 years
    I dont expect you to feel guilt
    but I just wished people would stop the hate.
    AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE
  • ONCE DEVIDED
    ONCE DEVIDED Posts: 1,131
    unsung wrote:
    OK, I'll revise.

    If your home country was attacked by another with a nuclear weapon where 3 million + were killed, what should be your home country's response?

    By response I mean action.

    no lets bring it down to your and my terms
    what if a country invaded you own nation for reasons that later were found to be false. on the very first bombing raid ( THEY CALLED IT SHOCK AND AWE) your beautiful daughter was ripped to shreds from a bomb.
    what would your response be. would you take up arms.
    this is what suprises me .

    do you see, do you understand.
    Your nation feels the need to retaliate . your asking what that retaliation would be.
    but you do not understand when individuals do it in Iraq. you call them terrorists.
    AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    BinauralJam wrote:
    what other countries do or what other countries think shouldnt come into the equation

    :lol::lol::lol:

    glad you find me so amusing.

    i cant help but wonder the reasoning behind the acquiring of nuclear weapons from the countries that have them. perhaps you can enlighten me.
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    unsung wrote:
    Hypothetically.

    If Iran was responsible for a nuclear bomb in NY, and 3 million were killed, what would be your reply?


    i would weep for the lives lost and all mankind. but id be more interested in washingtons reply.
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    you do understand that when you start a thread, it's an invite for other people to contribute to the thread, and the reality is that sometimes not everyone is going to agree with you.

    the points i raised were that it's taken 65 years for this to happen. President Obama talks so much of his push to rid the world of nucleur weapons and yet the US still thinks they can dictate to everyone who can and can't have them. the global nuclear weapons stockpile is estimated to amount to about 150,000 Hiroshima bombs. America and Russia have 22,000 between them.

    so i understand that you might want to pat the US on the back for finally sending a representative to the rememberance ceremony. you say it's a start, but what is it a start to?

    the irony is Japan has no nukes, yet the Country that Nuked them has so many it's a wonder they can even keep track of them.

    wouldn't a real show of solidarity at one of the rememberance ceremonies be for America to stand alongside Japan nucleur free?

    you can't expect people who feel strongly about this to not say how they feel about it. that's the whole point of debating with someone. we won't always agree.



    Only someone in La-La land would actualy think that america could get rid of all it's nukes. Like the rest of the planet is going to follow suit. You really believe that counties like N. Korea and Iran would give a shit if we were nuke free? I know you have a vision of everyone on earth dancing in the prairie fields but i'm sorry.....it's never going to happen.

    no nation’s security justifies the retention of such a weapon, let alone its use. it's always about the 'fear' with America. You guys are scared of your own shadow. having nucleur weapons doesn't make you 'safer'.

    let me ask you a question. could you ever press the button?

    '
  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    unsung wrote:
    Hypothetically.

    If Iran was responsible for a nuclear bomb in NY, and 3 million were killed, what would be your reply?
    the fact that you chose Iran in your hypothetical scenario, tells me that the American propoganda machine is alive and well.

    not that i didn't know that already.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Yes because that government is so innocent.

    Substitute North Korea, or is that propaganda too?

    Let's say England if it makes you happy. It really doesn't matter.

    What would be your response if YOU were the President and your country was attacked. How would you feel if Israel nuked Palestine? Although admittedly that would destroy more than both.
  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    unsung wrote:
    Yes because that government is so innocent.

    Substitute North Korea, or is that propaganda too?

    Let's say England if it makes you happy. It really doesn't matter.

    What would be your response if YOU were the President and your country was attacked. How would you feel if Israel nuked Palestine? Although admittedly that would destroy more than both.
    how would i feel? i feel pretty sad every day when i think about what is happening to the Palestinians.

    nuking palestine is about the only thing that israel hasn't done to them.

Categories