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  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    haffajappa wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Me, the momma, and the little one are making jiffy pop popcorn and watching a movie tonight. Good ol fasioned family values.
    What are you watching?
    Saw V? ;)


    :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    Actually we watched Chestnut. My daughter was so cute. She's 5 and she cried. Very good movie for anyone with kids. Had to hold back a tear myself. 8-)
  • OutOfBreathOutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    aerial wrote:
    well I guess there is no right or wrong answer..
    So, you agree that when a politician invokes family values, that it's an empty catch-phrase?

    Peace
    Dan
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  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    FiveB247x wrote:
    "Family values" is a sneaky way for white christian people to pretend they live like the show Leave it to Beaver and everyone else needs to do the same or they're going to hell and are wrong, corrupt and sinful.

    Point me in the direction of hell.
  • KDH12KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    aerial wrote:
    There is one meaning....the question should be ...Do you believe in Family Values?


    I value not eating any meat is that what you value?
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  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Look around - we're here.
    whygohome wrote:
    FiveB247x wrote:
    "Family values" is a sneaky way for white christian people to pretend they live like the show Leave it to Beaver and everyone else needs to do the same or they're going to hell and are wrong, corrupt and sinful.

    Point me in the direction of hell.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    :lol::lol: lewis black on homosexuality being a threat to the american family....its a little slow the first minute or two but its an interesting watch...rated r due to language...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-id4GKsaQk
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    :lol::lol: lewis black on homosexuality being a threat to the american family....its a little slow the first minute or two but its an interesting watch...rated r due to language...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-id4GKsaQk
    "....and matching pumps, very tasteful!" lol!!
    :lol::lol:
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  • arqarq Posts: 8,049
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-id4GKsaQk

    :thumbup:
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    unsung wrote:
    I was thinking more like a fine man like, oh say, Gary Condit.
    try again. i am fairly certain gary condit never ran on the platform of family values...

    here is his voting record and on things like gay rights he did not vote as a conservative. most of what he voted on was anti your typical family values positions....

    http://senate.ontheissues.org/CA/Gary_Condit.htm
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    OutOfBreath wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    well I guess there is no right or wrong answer..
    So, you agree that when a politician invokes family values, that it's an empty catch-phrase?

    Peace
    Dan
    I agree politicians are full of empty phrases. They talk BS.....
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    aerial wrote:
    I agree politicians are full of empty phrases. They talk BS.....
    ...
    With the term, 'Family Values' being one of the many empty phrases, right?
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  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    Cosmo wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    I agree politicians are full of empty phrases. They talk BS.....
    ...
    With the term, 'Family Values' being one of the many empty phrases, right?
    If a lifetime politician is using it I would more than likely agree
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    aerial wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    I agree politicians are full of empty phrases. They talk BS.....
    ...
    With the term, 'Family Values' being one of the many empty phrases, right?
    If a lifetime politician is using it I would more than likely agree
    ...
    I've got news for you... a politician is a politician. Sort of the same way a baby shark is still a shark.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    A baby shark does no where near the damage the adult sharks do...would you agree?
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    aerial wrote:
    A baby shark does no where near the damage the adult sharks do...would you agree?
    ...
    But, it's still a shark... right?
    Point being... not so literal... you cannot trust a politician. If you do... you are a fucking idiot that deserves the shit they serve you on a dinner plate.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    Cosmo wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    With the term, 'Family Values' being one of the many empty phrases, right?
    If a lifetime politician is using it I would more than likely agree
    ...
    I've got news for you... a politician is a politician. Sort of the same way a baby shark is still a shark.

    You should have used a rattlesnake instead!!

    cause the baby's bite is worse than the adult!!! ;)
    So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream
    Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    Cosmo wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    A baby shark does no where near the damage the adult sharks do...would you agree?
    ...
    But, it's still a shark... right?
    Point being... not so literal... you cannot trust a politician. If you do... you are a fucking idiot that deserves the shit they serve you on a dinner plate.
    I agree politicians can not be trusted.....
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • BlockheadBlockhead Posts: 1,538
    aerial wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    A baby shark does no where near the damage the adult sharks do...would you agree?
    ...
    But, it's still a shark... right?
    Point being... not so literal... you cannot trust a politician. If you do... you are a fucking idiot that deserves the shit they serve you on a dinner plate.
    I agree politicians can not be trusted.....
    Just curious... Do you vote?
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    aerial wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    A baby shark does no where near the damage the adult sharks do...would you agree?
    ...
    But, it's still a shark... right?
    Point being... not so literal... you cannot trust a politician. If you do... you are a fucking idiot that deserves the shit they serve you on a dinner plate.
    I agree politicians can not be trusted.....
    ...
    Do you trust Sarah Palin?
    Glenn Beck?
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    Yes of course I vote....Glen Beck is on to something...if he was lying there would never be so many people hating on him.....
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Glen Beck is on something..not onto something...
    aerial wrote:
    Yes of course I vote....Glen Beck is on to something...if he was lying there would never be so many people hating on him.....
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    aerial wrote:
    Yes of course I vote....Glen Beck is on to something...if he was lying there would never be so many people hating on him.....
    if beck were not spouting outright lies with every breath he exhales then maybe fewer people would hate on him...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Glen Beck is on something..not onto something...
    aerial wrote:
    Yes of course I vote....Glen Beck is on to something...if he was lying there would never be so many people hating on him.....

    Just an opinion...everyone has one
    I don't care who hates him...some people don't want to know the truth...so be it
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • arqarq Posts: 8,049
    aerial wrote:
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Glen Beck is on something..not onto something...
    aerial wrote:
    Yes of course I vote....Glen Beck is on to something...if he was lying there would never be so many people hating on him.....

    Just an opinion...everyone has one
    I don't care who hates him...some people don't want to know the truth...so be it

    ...Glenn Beck and the Truth are like oil and vinegar they don't mix...
    "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it"
    Neil deGrasse Tyson

    Why not (V) (°,,,,°) (V) ?
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    No matter what the political leaning or belief, anytime anyone says "some people don't want to know the truth", it's merely a cop-out to one side being enlightened and the other ignorant sheep. Complete bs at it's finest. People hate Beck for his misuse of history, facts and details in order to paint some skewed grandiose version of reality, not because he"s on the far right.
    aerial wrote:
    Just an opinion...everyone has one
    I don't care who hates him...some people don't want to know the truth...so be it
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    aerial wrote:
    Just an opinion...everyone has one
    I don't care who hates him...some people don't want to know the truth...so be it
    ...
    Please... don't take this personally... and I apologise in advance if I insult you... which I really am not out to do...
    But... is it just me... or are the dumbest people around us the ones who tend to say, "Some people don't want to know the truth"... like they are the only ones who know the truth?
    I mean, I look long and hard for The Truth... and have been looking for it for at least a decade and a half... and I rarely find it. I find a lot of beliefs and opinions... some half truths and a ton of lies... but, not a whole lot of truths. And trust me... the LAST place you will find the Truth is Television.
    Anyway... i just had to say that. Carry on with your... whatever it is you do...
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,524
    aerial wrote:
    Yes of course I vote....Glen Beck is on to something...if he was lying there would never be so many people hating on him.....

    Look at my thumb......
  • DaveyGDaveyG Posts: 225
    My Geography teacher began talking about the Heartland, she said:

    "The Heartland is supposedly a place where good old American values still exist today. Does anyone know where this is supposed to be?"

    Me: "Indian Reservations?"
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  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    Cosmo wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    Just an opinion...everyone has one
    I don't care who hates him...some people don't want to know the truth...so be it
    ...
    Please... don't take this personally... and I apologise in advance if I insult you... which I really am not out to do...
    But... is it just me... or are the dumbest people around us the ones who tend to say, "Some people don't want to know the truth"... like they are the only ones who know the truth?
    I mean, I look long and hard for The Truth... and have been looking for it for at least a decade and a half... and I rarely find it. I find a lot of beliefs and opinions... some half truths and a ton of lies... but, not a whole lot of truths. And trust me... the LAST place you will find the Truth is Television.
    Anyway... i just had to say that. Carry on with your... whatever it is you do...

    There is no Truth, only truths that we come to support our interpretations and perspectives. It would take an egomaniac to declare "This is the Truth!!"

    I haven't read it in a while, but Nietzsche's Thus Spoke Zarathustra has some interesting points on "Truth" (capital T).

    That being said, I applaud you as a searcher, Cosmo. It is good to always search for, while at the same time confronting and questioning the "Truths" that abound around us. These Truths lay the foundation for many good aspects of our society, but they also can do the same for many ill aspects.
  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    FiveB247x wrote:
    No matter what the political leaning or belief, anytime anyone says "some people don't want to know the truth", it's merely a cop-out to one side being enlightened and the other ignorant sheep. Complete bs at it's finest. People hate Beck for his misuse of history, facts and details in order to paint some skewed grandiose version of reality, not because he"s on the far right.
    aerial wrote:
    Just an opinion...everyone has one
    I don't care who hates him...some people don't want to know the truth...so be it


    Well put. Why on earth do people in this country follow grotesque (apologies for clearly showing my bias) individuals like Beck, Limbaugh, and Palin? It is amazing. But, I guess it is easier than thinking for one's self. Also, a new season of America's got Talent begins soon.
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