'Family Values'... What Does That Mean...

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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    blackredyellow wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    What blows my mind is some people on here have no idea what Family Values are.......to them it's just political...a catch phrase...

    Everyone knows what family values (in their literal sense) mean, and we probably all agree on the basics (honesty, hard work, respect, etc)... but when it's used as a political rallying point seemingly encompassing every part of social conservatism, that is where the questions arise.
    Exactly. I don't think religion is an important aspect to the family. Neither is abstinence only education (to be honest, that's just fucking stupid). Gay Marriage, why not? Censoring art isn't something I necessarily agree with.

    Honesty, respect, etc.. All agreeable.
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    aerial wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Is this even a serious question or just another atempt for the majority on here to make fun of conservatives or people of faith?
    Cosmo wrote:
    I hear shit about 'Family Values' from the Tea Party side of the house... but, what exactly does that mean... to YOU? I mean, if you are someone that believes in shit like, 'Restoring Family Values in America...', seriously, what the fuck does that mean?

    What blows my mind is some people on here have no idea what Family Values are.......to them it's just political...a catch phrase...
    Now I understand why most felt the kid that rang the old guys door and ran was doing nothing wrong....
    ...
    Well.. you haven't explained what 'Family Values' are. Based solely upon messages you have posted on this site, my guess is 'Stupidity' is included as one of your core values.
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Is this even a serious question or just another atempt for the majority on here to make fun of conservatives or people of faith?
    ...
    Yes... it is a serious question because people can't explain what they mean when the refer to 'Family Values'.
    Like those Republican/Tea Partiers talk about bringing 'Family Values' back to America... does that mean you are going to have to start soliciting male prostitutes in public restrooms, for example?
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    Cosmo wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Is this even a serious question or just another atempt for the majority on here to make fun of conservatives or people of faith?
    ...
    Yes... it is a serious question because people can't explain what they mean when the refer to 'Family Values'.
    Like those Republican/Tea Partiers talk about bringing 'Family Values' back to America... does that mean you are going to have to start soliciting male prostitutes in public restrooms, for example?


    and what exactly is a 'real american'?...i hear that from the same slacked-jaw yokels that proclaim 'family values'
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,415
    norm wrote:
    and what exactly is a 'real american'?...i hear that from the same slacked-jaw yokels that proclaim 'family values'

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    sorry, i couldn't resist...

    :mrgreen:
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    norm wrote:
    and what exactly is a 'real american'?...i hear that from the same slacked-jaw yokels that proclaim 'family values'

    51EJCD6F65L._SL500_AA280_.jpg


    sorry, i couldn't resist...

    :mrgreen:

    is that what they mean?? steroids and peroxide?? learn something new every day ;):lol:
  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Promotion of "traditional marriage" and opposition to adultery [9][10][11][12]
    Support for a roll back of aspects of Feminism and support for a traditional role for women in the family.[13][citation needed]
    Opposition to same-sex marriage[8]
    Support for traditional education and parental involvement in that education[14]
    Support for policies that encourage "adoption over abortion"[15]
    Support for behavior identified as traditional or moral such as respect, discipline, attentiveness, religious commitment[16][17]
    Support for "abstinence education" exclusively regarding risks associated with early sexual activity such as teen pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases[8] while not teaching such topics of sex education as human sexual behavior, safe sex and birth control.[18]
    Support for policies that are said to protect children from obscenity and exploitation.[19][20][21][22][23][24][25]
    ...
    I was asking for YOUR specifics... not Wikipedia's.


    same thing
    What exactly do you mean by "traditional role" of women?
    That we should all be in the kitchen, baking some rhubarb pies?

    I also love the abstinence-only education bit... Not only does it not work, but IMO, if "God" wanted you not to have sex, he wouldnt have made humans with sex drives.
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  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    Is this even a serious question or just another atempt for the majority on here to make fun of conservatives or people of faith?
    Cosmo wrote:
    I hear shit about 'Family Values' from the Tea Party side of the house... but, what exactly does that mean... to YOU? I mean, if you are someone that believes in shit like, 'Restoring Family Values in America...', seriously, what the fuck does that mean?

    What blows my mind is some people on here have no idea what Family Values are.......to them it's just political...a catch phrase...
    Now I understand why most felt the kid that rang the old guys door and ran was doing nothing wrong....[/quote]
    ...
    Cosmo wrote:
    Well.. you haven't explained what 'Family Values' are. Based solely upon messages you have posted on this site, my guess is 'Stupidity' is included as one of your core values.

    It has been explained several times on this thread...are you having a problem comprehending…..
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • OutOfBreath
    OutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    aerial wrote:
    It has been explained several times on this thread...are you having a problem comprehending…..

    Not really. Someone posted the wikipedia definition, which was not cosmo's point, and Jason P outlined something about teaching integrity to children. Your contribution has been to roll eyes over people asking the question.

    So Cosmo's point and question is simple: "What do YOU mean by family values?"

    If you can't answer, that's kindof an answer in itself...

    Peace
    Dan
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  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    OutOfBreath wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    It has been explained several times on this thread...are you having a problem comprehending…..

    Not really. Someone posted the wikipedia definition, which was not cosmo's point, and Jason P outlined something about teaching integrity to children. Your contribution has been to roll eyes over people asking the question.

    So Cosmo's point and question is simple: "What do YOU mean by family values?"

    If you can't answer, that's kindof an answer in itself...

    Peace
    Dan

    There is one meaning....the question should be ...Do you believe in Family Values?
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • OutOfBreath
    OutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    aerial wrote:
    There is one meaning....the question should be ...Do you believe in Family Values?

    I don't know, what do you mean by "family values"?
    Tell me what they are, and I can answer whether i believe in them or not.

    As it stands, it's akin to the concept "fair treatment". where of course the first follow-up question is "What is fair?" We should all believe in family values. My question is of course, what are they?

    Peace
    Dan
    "YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death

    "Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    aerial wrote:
    OutOfBreath wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    It has been explained several times on this thread...are you having a problem comprehending…..

    Not really. Someone posted the wikipedia definition, which was not cosmo's point, and Jason P outlined something about teaching integrity to children. Your contribution has been to roll eyes over people asking the question.

    So Cosmo's point and question is simple: "What do YOU mean by family values?"

    If you can't answer, that's kindof an answer in itself...

    Peace
    Dan

    There is one meaning....the question should be ...Do you believe in Family Values?
    I'm pretty sure my family's values are different than yours.

    Please, what s your definition of 'family values' and I'll see if I believe in them.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    aerial wrote:
    There is one meaning....the question should be ...Do you believe in Family Values?
    Really? Cause in Bountiful B.C. the meaning of family values is a man marrying 35 women, some as young as 8 or 9...

    And in some societies family values means women being subordinate to men, because it's a "man's world"

    And in some societies family values means mutilating girls at young ages to make them "pure" and "faithful"

    And in some families their "values" consist of raising their children to believe your race, nationality, or sexual orientation gives you some sort of rank in this world.

    So which meaning is it then...
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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    norm wrote:
    and what exactly is a 'real american'?...i hear that from the same slacked-jaw yokels that proclaim 'family values'

    51EJCD6F65L._SL500_AA280_.jpg


    sorry, i couldn't resist...

    :mrgreen:
    :lol::lol::lol:
    live pearl jam is best pearl jam
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    haffajappa wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    There is one meaning....the question should be ...Do you believe in Family Values?
    Really? Cause in Bountiful B.C. the meaning of family values is a man marrying 35 women, some as young as 8 or 9...

    And in some societies family values means women being subordinate to men, because it's a "man's world"

    And in some societies family values means mutilating girls at young ages to make them "pure" and "faithful"

    And in some families their "values" consist of raising their children to believe your race, nationality, or sexual orientation gives you some sort of rank in this world.

    So which meaning is it then...

    well I guess there is no right or wrong answer..
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Me, the momma, and the little one are making jiffy pop popcorn and watching a movie tonight. Good ol fasioned family values.
  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Me, the momma, and the little one are making jiffy pop popcorn and watching a movie tonight. Good ol fasioned family values.
    What are you watching?
    Saw V? ;)
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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    aerial wrote:
    haffajappa wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    There is one meaning....the question should be ...Do you believe in Family Values?
    Really? Cause in Bountiful B.C. the meaning of family values is a man marrying 35 women, some as young as 8 or 9...

    And in some societies family values means women being subordinate to men, because it's a "man's world"

    And in some societies family values means mutilating girls at young ages to make them "pure" and "faithful"

    And in some families their "values" consist of raising their children to believe your race, nationality, or sexual orientation gives you some sort of rank in this world.

    So which meaning is it then...

    well I guess there is no right or wrong answer..
    hence the OP's original question...
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    aerial wrote:
    There is one meaning....the question should be ...Do you believe in Family Values?
    ...
    So... when Rev. Fred Phelps says he believes in restoring Family Values to america.. you would answer, 'Yes', in agreement with him? Your set of Family Values are the same as Fred Phelps???
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