'Family Values'... What Does That Mean...

Cosmo
Cosmo Posts: 12,225
edited August 2010 in A Moving Train
I hear shit about 'Family Values' from the Tea Party side of the house... but, what exactly does that mean... to YOU? I mean, if you are someone that believes in shit like, 'Restoring Family Values in America...', seriously, what the fuck does that mean?
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  • eyedclaar
    eyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    Ah yes, don't people remember the good ol' days that never actually existed? We need to go back to when we were killin' Injuns, enslaving Africans, not allowing women to vote, denying people basic civil rights, etc. etc. etc., you know, the good ol' days. At least for white, male, American land owners.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    family values is a catch-phrase coined by some PR firm that knows how to work the christian-conservative base ... in reality, it means jack shit ... as the peeps that are always preaching family values are closet gay white men having sex with guys half their age in a super-8 ...
  • marcos
    marcos Posts: 2,112
    eyedclaar wrote:
    Ah yes, don't people remember the good ol' days that never actually existed? We need to go back to when we were killin' Injuns, enslaving Africans, not allowing women to vote, denying people basic civil rights, etc. etc. etc., you know, the good ol' days. At least for white, male, American land owners.

    Exactly, everytime I hear teabagger say we need to get back to the way it was, this is what they really mean!
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,415
    exactly. it is just a buzzword. in reality, not every family has the same value system or values the same things. usually the ones that are espousing this term are the ones that want to jerk our society back to the 1950s where domestic abuse was tolerated, fear of a lurking enemy rules policy, divorce rate was nil, church attendance was high, only one parent had to work, and june cleaver served breakfast, lunch, and dinner to her husband and 2 sons on a tray....

    on a side note, i really like it when these family values people get busted for having either hetero or homosexual trysts outside of their marriage....it just shows them for who they really are...
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  • markin ball
    markin ball Posts: 1,076
    The easiest way to disarm someone you are arguing with is usually just to have them define the terms they area using. Half they time they won't because it will either expose their or their group's hypocrisy or cause them to backtrack on what they are saying. If they do try, it usually exposes their ignorance on the subject.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,415
    wasn't family values a tour featuring korn, and limp bizkit about 10 years ago?
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    Cosmo wrote:
    I hear shit about 'Family Values' from the Tea Party side of the house... but, what exactly does that mean... to YOU? I mean, if you are someone that believes in shit like, 'Restoring Family Values in America...', seriously, what the fuck does that mean?

    this

    Family%20Dinner%20without%20TV%201950s%20Medium%20Web%20view.jpg
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,415
    or this....


    bg_elba1_family.jpg
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    norm wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    I hear shit about 'Family Values' from the Tea Party side of the house... but, what exactly does that mean... to YOU? I mean, if you are someone that believes in shit like, 'Restoring Family Values in America...', seriously, what the fuck does that mean?

    this

    Family%20Dinner%20without%20TV%201950s%20Medium%20Web%20view.jpg
    ...
    So... does this also apply?
    Pledge_salue.jpg
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    norm wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    I hear shit about 'Family Values' from the Tea Party side of the house... but, what exactly does that mean... to YOU? I mean, if you are someone that believes in shit like, 'Restoring Family Values in America...', seriously, what the fuck does that mean?

    this

    Family%20Dinner%20without%20TV%201950s%20Medium%20Web%20view.jpg

    oh crap... what will i do with my extra 2 daughters... and where do i get me one of those husbands.

    family values is this is what we think constitutes a family and this is what we think a family should represent and what you longhairs consider a family is wrong.

    id be interested to hear what anti family values rhetoric sounds like.. cause ive never heard it... maybe it doesnt exist. and what one decides is their family, regardless of its makeup and what that means to them IS family values.
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  • catefrances
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    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    So... does this also apply?
    Pledge_salue.jpg

    that looks a little too nazi salute to me. :shock:
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    catefrances wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    So... does this also apply?
    Pledge_salue.jpg

    that looks a little too nazi salute to me. :shock:
    ...
    That was the original method to salute the flag while reciting the the 'Pledge of Alligence'. It was changed because of the relationship with the 'Heil Hitler' Nazi Salute... to make in more 'Family Friendly'.
    ...
    Goddamn Nazis... if it weren't for them, the Charlie Chaplin moustache would still be around and our little kids would salute our flag the way it was originally meant to be saluted.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Cosmo wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    So... does this also apply?
    Pledge_salue.jpg

    that looks a little too nazi salute to me. :shock:
    ...
    That was the original method to salute the flag while reciting the the 'Pledge of Alligence'. It was changed because of the relationship with the 'Heil Hitler' Nazi Salute... to make in more 'Family Friendly'.
    ...
    Goddamn Nazis... if it weren't for them, the Charlie Chaplin moustache would still be around and our little kids would salute our flag the way it was originally meant to be saluted.

    tbh i dont get the whole civilians saluting the flag anyways. it reeks of fascism.
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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    "Family values" is a sneaky way for white christian people to pretend they live like the show Leave it to Beaver and everyone else needs to do the same or they're going to hell and are wrong, corrupt and sinful.
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  • OnTheEdge
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    Promotion of "traditional marriage" and opposition to adultery [9][10][11][12]
    Support for a roll back of aspects of Feminism and support for a traditional role for women in the family.[13][citation needed]
    Opposition to same-sex marriage[8]
    Support for traditional education and parental involvement in that education[14]
    Support for policies that encourage "adoption over abortion"[15]
    Support for behavior identified as traditional or moral such as respect, discipline, attentiveness, religious commitment[16][17]
    Support for "abstinence education" exclusively regarding risks associated with early sexual activity such as teen pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases[8] while not teaching such topics of sex education as human sexual behavior, safe sex and birth control.[18]
    Support for policies that are said to protect children from obscenity and exploitation.[19][20][21][22][23][24][25]
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    That's what I hear... vague references of 'Morality' and maybe a touch of Christan Values... but, never any specifics. Such as what do you do in your family that will translate to every other family? Not kill people? That has nothing to do with your values... most families in the country... in the world have a 'Don't kill people' policy they live by.
    So, what is it?
    ...
    I say, it's bullshit. A made up piece of crap to garner votes in an election. All some fuck has to say is they stand for 'Family Values' and dumb fucks automatically vote for them... never questioning WHAT values he/she is specifically addressing.
    And seriously... when the word 'Family' is used as an adjective... it usually means 'Crap'. Example: 'Family Dining' means crappy food whose only redeeming quality is it's fucking cheap... 'Family Entertainment' usually means having to go someplace with a bunch of miserable parents and tons of out of control kids. The only time it is used in a good sense... 'Family Guy'.
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Promotion of "traditional marriage" and opposition to adultery [9][10][11][12]
    Support for a roll back of aspects of Feminism and support for a traditional role for women in the family.[13][citation needed]
    Opposition to same-sex marriage[8]
    Support for traditional education and parental involvement in that education[14]
    Support for policies that encourage "adoption over abortion"[15]
    Support for behavior identified as traditional or moral such as respect, discipline, attentiveness, religious commitment[16][17]
    Support for "abstinence education" exclusively regarding risks associated with early sexual activity such as teen pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases[8] while not teaching such topics of sex education as human sexual behavior, safe sex and birth control.[18]
    Support for policies that are said to protect children from obscenity and exploitation.[19][20][21][22][23][24][25]
    ...
    I was asking for YOUR specifics... not Wikipedia's.
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  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Cosmo wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Promotion of "traditional marriage" and opposition to adultery [9][10][11][12]
    Support for a roll back of aspects of Feminism and support for a traditional role for women in the family.[13][citation needed]
    Opposition to same-sex marriage[8]
    Support for traditional education and parental involvement in that education[14]
    Support for policies that encourage "adoption over abortion"[15]
    Support for behavior identified as traditional or moral such as respect, discipline, attentiveness, religious commitment[16][17]
    Support for "abstinence education" exclusively regarding risks associated with early sexual activity such as teen pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases[8] while not teaching such topics of sex education as human sexual behavior, safe sex and birth control.[18]
    Support for policies that are said to protect children from obscenity and exploitation.[19][20][21][22][23][24][25]
    ...
    I was asking for YOUR specifics... not Wikipedia's.


    same thing
  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    Cosmo wrote:
    I hear shit about 'Family Values' from the Tea Party side of the house... but, what exactly does that mean... to YOU? I mean, if you are someone that believes in shit like, 'Restoring Family Values in America...', seriously, what the fuck does that mean?
    something, something, something, Dark Side...
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    edited July 2010
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    I hear shit about 'Family Values' from the Tea Party side of the house... but, what exactly does that mean... to YOU? I mean, if you are someone that believes in shit like, 'Restoring Family Values in America...', seriously, what the fuck does that mean?
    something, something, something, Dark Side...


    thats what we need.. the emperor.. hell break the secret code of family values. afterall he was trying to bring father and son together.
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