Jagged Little Pill ~ Rubbish or Actually Brilliant?

tremors

Automatic for the People will never age. You'd be a fool to be put off by it's 'popiness'. Only a fool would not rate automatic.

It kind of reminds me of one of Jesus H Christ's best lines 'blessed is the one who does not fall away on account of me'.

HSB / Catef - how do you understand 'Man on the Moon'? That is a key track for me - I hear it as about 'faith' and 'miracles', and 'mystery' as in

'Here's a truck stop instead of st peter's'
'Yeah, yeah yeah' (Yeah right!)

If you believe there's nothing up his sleeve, then nothing is cool


(Magic)

As in - what would it take for us to believe that the world is a wondrous place?

Infinitely better song than anything on JLP, infinitely better record.

Sorry to desecrate the idea of JLP, but it would be hard to beat Stipe when it comes to American lyricists.

Best British lyricists??

1. Morrissey
2. Waters
3. ?????

Is this going off topic?

Yes tremors :evil:


"Madame de Gaulle - what do you miss most since your husband died?"
"Oh, 'appiness "

^

pejamofacl

it was one of the coolest albums when it came out ! Brilliant I can't say so , But her secon,d album is brillioant !

Jukee

I thought it was brilliant at the time. I used to be a huge fan of hers and she actually came to my hometown back in 1999 and nobody ever comes here. She put on a pretty good show. I haven't really listened to her since about 2000, my taste of music has changed but I may just have to put Jagged Little Pill in my CD player on my way to work tomorrow morning for old time sake.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

JLP was my favourite cd for a while. Especially the hidden track, with just Alanis singing a capella. I once went to Vancouver to visit a buddy. We went camping in the mountains, had some beers, jumped in his truck (didn't drive, just sat there) and cranked that song up. It was magical.

skippybrew

springsteenfan wrote:

It's actually one of the three records we have duplicate copies of in my house, both I had it and my girlfriend had it before we moved in together. The other 2 are Automatic for the People by R.E.M. and Justified by Justin Timberlake.

Careful, or they might breed.

BlackThirteen

As my friend said in high school when our English teacher gave us the lyrics for Ironic for a lesson. "This stuff isn't ironic. This stuff just sucks."
But anyway I happen to like the album. Wouldn't call it brilliant but it's good.

PearlOfAGirl

I love the fact that she doesn't hold anything in!!! :thumbup:

fife

I would say neither. it was a very good record from a good artist with a good voice.

I am actually surprised that this record is getting good reviews here. I personally think she is very underrated as an artist.

one of my fav songs from her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjTB6EG3xGo

kenny olav

I'm sorry, but I've always thought of the song Ironic as unintentional comedy... the silly lyrics.. the ridiculous vocals... the copying of the soft verse, loud chorus formula that had already been used a million times by the time this song was released.

It reminds me of a funny college story though... there was this obnoxious moron who lived in the dorm room next to mine who hated that song (this was shortly after it was released) and so me and another guy down the hall borrowed the Alanis CD from our RA so that when the a-hole came home that day we blasted the song from my room and shrieked along with it as loudly as we could. That shut him up for a few days, haha.

Needless to say, I never got into Alanis, but I do like her song Thank You... probably the only song of hers I like... it's got a very etheral quality to it... quite beautiful in fact... a rare hit song about humility.

fife

just funny as hell.

alanis based.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUq02M8h ... re=related

PearlOfAGirl

This is one of my favs. ~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymG3eQempnI

tremors

my dear heartshaped, why don't you give up already? i believe the definitive review of the album, in the spirit of this thread has already been posted: 'it's shit!'

hard to argue with that, a 2 word review in the tradition of spinal tap's 'shit sandwich'

kenny olav, your story reminded me of one of my college friends whose house adjoined a miserable old bastard who frequently banged on the walls when the music was too loud.

my friend discovered however that whenever he played 'are you gonna go my way' by terence trent d'arby (edit: obviously meant Lenny Kravitz! it was a long time ago!!) it somehow set the neighbours entire house alarm system blaring for about 15 minutes!

needless to say we exploited this and would come home at 2am to play some tunes but start with kravitz and watch the fun outside- i don't think his neighbour ever discovered the reason, but he became even more unpopular in the street than the students!!

smithnic

I was watching some VH1 best of the 90's or something that called this album the best of the decade. I don't see it. I never liked that "You outta know" song, nor any of the others. And before you go and say that I'm a guy and that's why, I am a huge Riot Grrl fan. This album just doesn't hold up either. Anyone go back and listen to it? Ugh. Also she didn't really do anything after that. And I believe she was married to the producer if I'm not mistaken. Sorta like Mariah Carey.

DangDang

This album is actually jaggedly brilliant

I don't want to dissect everything you say, I don't want to pick you apart, but I caaaaaayayayayayan't help it.

and

All I need right now is in-tell-ectual intercourse,--a soul to dig the hole much deeper

and

and what I wouldn't give, to find a soul mate, someone else to catch this drift

I never heard anyone EVER say all that before, besides myself, that is.

The firetrucks are coming up around the bend.

tremors

DangDang wrote:

This album is actually jaggedly brilliant

I don't want to dissect everything you say, I don't want to pick you apart, but I caaaaaayayayayayan't help it.

and

All I need right now is in-tell-ectual intercourse,--a soul to dig the hole much deeper

and

and what I wouldn't give, to find a soul mate, someone else to catch this drift

I never heard anyone EVER say all that before, besides myself, that is.

can you be certain that you are not in fact alanis herself dangdang, and just masquerading as a normal bloke?

more to the point- can WE Be certain?

DangDang

tremors wrote:

DangDang wrote:

This album is actually jaggedly brilliant

I don't want to dissect everything you say, I don't want to pick you apart, but I caaaaaayayayayayan't help it.

and

All I need right now is in-tell-ectual intercourse,--a soul to dig the hole much deeper

and

and what I wouldn't give, to find a soul mate, someone else to catch this drift

.

can you be certain that you are not in fact alanis herself dangdang, and just masquerading as a normal bloke?

more to the point- can WE Be certain?

When I (not a bloke, but a bird, I guess they say) said "I never heard anyone EVER say all that before, besides myself, that is", I meant that I personally thought it in my head, and not necessarily with those words, so when those thoughts were materialized into words, I thought, well there that is. And THAT is what's brilliant.

tremors

DangDang wrote:

When I (not a bloke, but a bird, I guess they say) said "I never heard anyone EVER say all that before, besides myself, that is", I meant that I personally thought it in my head, and not necessarily with those words, so when those thoughts were materialized into words, I thought, well there that is. And THAT is what's brilliant.

Sorry! I thought you were a guy probly from the handsome man in your avatar! (I am rather dim at times)

Hope I don't offend you I was joking- the original idea for this thread came from me and heartshaped having a miscommunication where neither knew if the other one was joking, and I said I was being 'ironic' in the British sense which americans don't always get. Anyway, that was some time ago and I'm probably digging meself into an unnecessary hole here - I just want to be loved!! is that so bad??

DangDang

tremors wrote:

DangDang wrote:

When I (not a bloke, but a bird, I guess they say) said "I never heard anyone EVER say all that before, besides myself, that is", I meant that I personally thought it in my head, and not necessarily with those words, so when those thoughts were materialized into words, I thought, well there that is. And THAT is what's brilliant.

Sorry! I thought you were a guy probly from the handsome man in your avatar! (I am rather dim at times)

Hope I don't offend you I was joking- the original idea for this thread came from me and heartshaped having a miscommunication where neither knew if the other one was joking, and I said I was being 'ironic' in the British sense which americans don't always get. Anyway, that was some time ago and I'm probably digging meself into an unnecessary hole here - I just want to be loved!! is that so bad??

I/I'm:

--Not offended
--Missed the original intention of the post--(me dim too) but was attracted by the title
--think wanting to be loved is not so bad
--did not notice any hole--necessary or not
--think sarcasm isn't always apparent in writing
--belives my avatar is handsome too
--wonder if you know that you appear to have a bird in your eye?

tremors

DangDang wrote:

I/I'm:

--Not offended - kewl
--Missed the original intention of the post--(me dim too) but was attracted by the title - threads have a life of their own - this is a good one i think (one of my faves!!)
--think wanting to be loved is not so bad - at least we're human then!!
--did not notice any hole--necessary or not - great - will put away the shovel
--think sarcasm isn't always apparent in writing - too true, too true - ask Alanis :?
--belives my avatar is handsome too - sure you're not alone there!!
--wonder if you know that you appear to have a bird in your eye? - yes, I put it there last night

PearlOfAGirl

tremors wrote:

my dear heartshaped, why don't you give up already? i believe the definitive review of the album, in the spirit of this thread has already been posted: 'it's shit!'

hard to argue with that, a 2 word review in the tradition of spinal tap's 'shit sandwich'

kenny olav, your story reminded me of one of my college friends whose house adjoined a miserable old bastard who frequently banged on the walls when the music was too loud.

my friend discovered however that whenever he played 'are you gonna go my way' by terence trent d'arby (edit: obviously meant Lenny Kravitz! it was a long time ago!!) it somehow set the neighbours entire house alarm system blaring for about 15 minutes!

needless to say we exploited this and would come home at 2am to play some tunes but start with kravitz and watch the fun outside- i don't think his neighbour ever discovered the reason, but he became even more unpopular in the street than the students!!

There's nothing wrong with me liking that album... I never said it was my favorite album in the world... geez!!! :roll: