Jagged Little Pill ~ Rubbish or Actually Brilliant?

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  • Sian-of-the-dead
    Sian-of-the-dead Posts: 8,963
    Actually brilliant.

    But then, I'm a HUGE Alanis fan who owns everything she's ever done... I would say that ;)
    Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...

    ... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,080
    tremors wrote:
    mookeywrench wrote:
    Maybe the big picture irony was that she titled a song full of un-ironic puns, 'Ironic'.....don't ya think?


    Yes if I'm being charitable I would say she has deftly crafted a satire about the barriers to our own shared misunderstandings of language.

    However, more realistically I just think she is fucking confused!


    either way...its more productive than what I did with my life as a teenager
  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,378
    Definitely up there as one of the best albums from the 90's. Although I would say her career is a "one album wonder"
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Loved the album when it came out, its gone missing from the library and I'm in a different place now.
    I thought brilliant at the time.
  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    mookeywrench wrote:
    Maybe the big picture irony was that she titled a song full of un-ironic puns, 'Ironic'.....don't ya think?

    Deep
  • tremors
    tremors Posts: 8,051
    mookeywrench wrote:
    tremors wrote:
    mookeywrench wrote:
    Maybe the big picture irony was that she titled a song full of un-ironic puns, 'Ironic'.....don't ya think?



    Yes if I'm being charitable I would say she has deftly crafted a satire about the barriers to our own shared misunderstandings of language.

    However, more realistically I just think she is fucking confused!





    either way...its more productive than what I did with my life as a teenager

    Ain't that the truth!!?

    Yes, I concede - it's a good record!!

    I was being ironic btw :lol:
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  • Got a hard hard head
    Got a hard hard head Posts: 638
    Personally, I prefer Stinky Britches.
    It's gonna be a glorious day...
  • markymark550
    markymark550 Columbia, SC Posts: 5,224
    Got a hard hard head wrote:
    Personally, I prefer Stinky Britches.
    alright Mr. Garrison....lol


    Personally, her music is ok. To me it just hasn't stood up well over time. I remember liking it a lot more when it first came out. And I agree with tremors in that she's misusing the term 'ironic'. While it's (unfortunately) come to be an acceptable substitute for 'coincidental', it's still a misuse of the word.
  • springsteenfan
    springsteenfan Posts: 383
    JordyWordy wrote:
    Call me a Canadian lesbo, but I think it's a great album.

    Ha! I saw her at a club in Toronto right when JLP came out and the place was lousy with Canadian Lesbos and they yelled at me. I usually have no beef with them. JLP was an awesome record for 1995, but I would be ok with never hearing it again as long as I lived. It's actually one of the three records we have duplicate copies of in my house, both I had it and my girlfriend had it before we moved in together. The other 2 are Automatic for the People by R.E.M. and Justified by Justin Timberlake.
  • jamburger
    jamburger Posts: 1,775
    She's no Robin Sparkles.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8pEzi1E5Og
  • PearlOfAGirl
    PearlOfAGirl Posts: 15,993
    You Oughta Know ~~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UEWbTxmG9o

    Wish you were here...
    ♥~RIP Dad
  • tremors
    tremors Posts: 8,051
    HeartShapedBox wrote:
    You Oughta Know ~~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UEWbTxmG9o


    Like your style HSB - as soon as I'm proven right you move swiftly onto another track!! ;):lol:

    There is definitely one really first rate track on that album - but I don't think it's that one above. JUst had a look and think it's You Learn.

    In fact reading the lyrics on their own I'd say they stand up better as poems without her screeching. You Learn is good tho, can I come back when we get to that one please HSB? Give me a nudge or a poke or whatever it is these days. thx
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  • tremors
    tremors Posts: 8,051
    edited July 2010
    springsteenfan wrote:
    JordyWordy wrote:
    Call me a Canadian lesbo, but I think it's a great album.

    Ha! I saw her at a club in Toronto right when JLP came out and the place was lousy with Canadian Lesbos and they yelled at me. I usually have no beef with them. JLP was an awesome record for 1995, but I would be ok with never hearing it again as long as I lived. It's actually one of the three records we have duplicate copies of in my house, both I had it and my girlfriend had it before we moved in together. The other 2 are Automatic for the People by R.E.M. and Justified by Justin Timberlake.

    I can see why you and your girl get on. You must be the only two people on the planet to have bought all three of those records and not dumped at least one of them (can you guess which one I would keep hold of??)

    Having read your post several times now, I think that is close to being the funniest paragraph I've ever come across on the internet!! :D Can I put it as my signature please? ;)
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  • JDB
    JDB Posts: 277
    It's shit.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    tremors wrote:
    Jesus, where do you start?

    'It's a death row pardon two minutes too late'

    That's not ironic that's fucking criminal!! and negligent.


    Ok, before we go any further beloved HSB, let's get the correct definition of irony! .... (to follow)

    :lol:
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  • PearlOfAGirl
    PearlOfAGirl Posts: 15,993
    It's meeting the man of my dreams
    And then meeting his beautiful wife

    ironic, or just plain bad luck?

    Wish you were here...
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  • markin ball
    markin ball Posts: 1,076
    "Its like meeting the girl of your dreams and finding out she's five."

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1U29FZIZaM
    "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win ."

    "With our thoughts we make the world"
  • tremors
    tremors Posts: 8,051
    HeartShapedBox wrote:
    It's meeting the man of my dreams
    And then meeting his beautiful wife

    ironic, or just plain bad luck?


    It's definitely not 'ironic'!

    It's gutting, or at least unfortunate.


    Yes I think that's it - the entire song works better if you replace 'Ironic' with 'unfortunate'.

    'Isn't it Unfortunate?', by Alanis Morrisette

    Could you duly amend the lyrics in first post dear heartshaped?
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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    mookeywrench wrote:
    tremors wrote:
    mookeywrench wrote:
    Maybe the big picture irony was that she titled a song full of un-ironic puns, 'Ironic'.....don't ya think?


    Yes if I'm being charitable I would say she has deftly crafted a satire about the barriers to our own shared misunderstandings of language.

    However, more realistically I just think she is fucking confused!


    either way...its more productive than what I did with my life as a teenager
    She was a little beyond her teen years in the JLP days....but not here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re18R8QQF9E
    The clip pretty much sums up my opinion of her music, too ;)
    I do have some respect for her as a person and an artist, after seeing a lot of interview footage and whatnot....her music just isn't my cup o' tea.
  • JordyWordy
    JordyWordy Posts: 2,261
    springsteenfan wrote:
    JordyWordy wrote:
    Call me a Canadian lesbo, but I think it's a great album.

    Ha! I saw her at a club in Toronto right when JLP came out and the place was lousy with Canadian Lesbos and they yelled at me. I usually have no beef with them. JLP was an awesome record for 1995, but I would be ok with never hearing it again as long as I lived. It's actually one of the three records we have duplicate copies of in my house, both I had it and my girlfriend had it before we moved in together. The other 2 are Automatic for the People by R.E.M. and Justified by Justin Timberlake.

    Really? Never hearing it again? I dont play it often, but when I hear something from it I won't complain.

    The hidden track about catching the b/f cheating is what seals the album as classic for me. It's pretty heavy...reminds me of Eddie's "Im still here" in the way that it's an uncomfortably honest track.....except she put hers on the album. Imagine "Im still here" being tagged onto the end of Ten instead of being an unreleased track, it added some serious weight to the album imo.

    PS: Automatic for the People didnt age for me, just sheer quality. have a copy of justified, but i never gave it a fair shot.

    PPS: JLP had "You Oughta Know" which i think is the best angry, bitter, fuck-you-you-fucking-bitch/bastard-exgf/bf song that i've heard.

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