The truth about 9/11
chris32482
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I came across this website with a lot of interesting blurbs regarding 9/11 made by knowledgable and credible people. It has really made me think seriously about what I believe. For a long time I thought maybe it was possible that certain individuals within our Government knew about an impending attack and allowed it to happen, but I didn't believe it was an "inside job". Now, I question that assumption. I wonder if our leaders were not actually involved to a much greater extent.
http://www.wanttoknow.info/officialsquestion911commissionreport#Shaffer
http://www.wanttoknow.info/officialsquestion911commissionreport#Shaffer
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Yes but you can't think of it like that. I don't belive that "the government" as a single entity had anything to do with it. It was more than likely a group of well-connected individuals working through the U.S. intelligence networks.
I know what you're saying. It is something to think about. But there are too many things that don't add up (or do add up, I guess depending on how you look at it) about 9/11. I don't want to start listing all the facts here, I would end up with a post a mile long. There are lots of links on that website with interesting data. A good one is http://www.physics911.net/.
Let me just say that if you have any doubt that our government would lie to the American people in order to start a war, read about the Gulf of Tonkin, or Operation Northwoods.
what about all the black ops and other secrets kept throughout the years? how'd they manage that? it's not like every person in government would have been involved, it really wouldn't even take that many, just some in the right places
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
Anyone wanna take bets on how long this 9-11 thread last. I say 8-10 pages of rehashed info.
Somethings will never change on the "MT"
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
I don't doubt for a sec that there's clandestine operations. But 9/11 was an order of magnitude greater than 4 guys sneaking in and knocking off a diplomat in Czechoslovakia. And really I'm not saying that they couldn't pull it off but there's no way that the hundreds it would take to execute it would be quiet about it for 9 years.
Plus I'm not trying to argue with anyone just throwing in the ol' 2 cents.
You're joking right??? :roll:
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read this book
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
the parts about the conspiracies are interesting but the passagess on the psychology of conspiracy theories are really pretty interesting. It isn't gonna change any minds, but it is a great read if you are interested in conspiracy theoories on a psychological/sociological level.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
There were many whistleblowers - no one with a smoking gun, here it is on a silver platter-type confession....but many that were silenced when trying to report anomolies between the official story and what they knew as truth...a partial list:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... &aid=17961
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
We've already got the "too many people involved", and the "evil geniuses / incompetent buffoon" blanket rebuttals...all thats left is a smug reference to occams razor and we'll have the trifecta of "I have no idea what happened, but here's why YOU are wrong" statements all in one thread. All three are just an easy way out.
we can finish it off with " you'll never know, why bother?" To complete the circle of apathy. Cool.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
not to mention the timeline the commission was given under oath was later proven to be false....
another thing that ended up being false is the claim of boxcutters. that came from a single source, who said his wife called him from her cell phone on the plane and told him that....but according to the FBI her cell phone record shows she never made such a call, nor was the skyphone on the plane used to call him....in short, the FBI says this guy was never called by his wife on 9/11 and yet the boxcutter myth is accepted as common knowledge and fact.
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
K, so...since you seem so intent on categorizing/psychoanalyzing the people who still have questions about 9/11, while seeming reluctant to stick your own neck out at all....do you support the state stance on what happened that day, since all the facts have been gone over? Or do you fit in your other categories - one of the .01% who is looking for truth? Or.....one of the apathetic who has given up cause we'll never know?
so, the government's account is right? a lone gunman shot him from the back making his head go back and to the left?
i ask because in the 9/11 debunking shows they always dismiss jfk's assassination theories as equal to 9/11 theories.
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
as to the government is inept...yeah, when it comes to the people, that's the point, it's not like every branch of government would have to be involved in this, i really think they could get away with it with even less than 2 dozen people. these are the same people who sent thousands of our kids to war without proper protection saying "you go to war with the army you have, not the army you wish you had." meanwhile they are giving no bid contracts to campaign investors and cheney's former company and then giving them bonuses even after they are found to have committed a lot of fraud in billing us (on top of feeding our troops spoiled meat, dirty water....) also, as far as death tolls go multiple 9/11s happen in the US every day from lack of health care and smoking.
and we're supposed to believe over an hour after the 1st plane hit the towers rumsfeld still had no idea any of that happened? he was in the pentagon, the fucking sec of defense, over an hour after cheney (a former sec of defense) says it is obvious we are under attack and no one bothers to tell rummy? he doesn't find out until AFTER the pentagon is hit? really??? give me a fucking break! and cheney, again a former sec of defense, waits over an hour after saying it is obvious we are under attack to scramble fighters? a known hijacked plane is allowed to penetrate DC's no fly zone, again over an hour after the first plane hit, makes a u-turn, re-penetrates DCs no fly zone and then cheney finally decides to get some jets up in the air when andrew's air force base is 10miles away from DC?
and then we are told a few years later the guy who supposedly did this isn't important and our president doesn't even think about him??
ask anyone what weapons did the hijackers use and i bet they will say boxcutters and yet there is no actual basis for this claim but everyone accepts it as fact....but i'm sure they mean everything else they said
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
9/11 is now solved. This thread can be put to rest.
COMMON SENSE!!!
and what did they hijack the planes with?
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'