I said the city wanted the revenue and I'll stick with that, has any figures been released about how much revenue was generated, has to be well over 100 million. The city could have said no, they know full well these summit's generate these kinds of problem. I agree Harper should have left it at the original site, but once he changed his mind all the city had to do was say "take your summit elsewhere". He either would have left it where it was or went elsewhere. The problem with Harper isn't Harper, it's the fact that know one really stands up to him, they just let him dictate all because he controls the federal purse strings and in this case where the G8/G20 was held and with it all the revenue, your mayor knew that and wasn't about to say anything because Harper would have no problem finding a replacement city.
As for the police action disgusting as usual, abuse of power. There should be an inquiry, McGuilty will not call one, so we should not hold our breath for one to happen anytime soon.
seriously, there was like zilch revenue except for maybe hotels for the city ... all downtown businesses were closed! ... everyone in town left to avoid the nightmare that was this summit ... and once you agree to host it - you can't change your mind when harper changes the location ... it's not that simple ... and the notion that there would be a replacement city waiting in the wings is a myth as well ... he wanted to hold the G8 in muskoka (conservative riding) - a place that ACTUALLY got infrastructure money for it ... then when he was told he needed a bigger place ... one that will have to ABSORB costs ... why not go and fuck over the people of toronto ...
everyone can see what these summits do to cities ... it's quite evident ...
I'm sure there was plenty of revenue, all these cops, protesters, reporters and the the other out of towners had to be housed and fed. Your mayor knew full well the trouble these summits cause, he could have said no from the get go, Sorry if Toronto wants to be known as this great international city then sometimes your city will have to host these things and quit crying about it . So the people of Toronto got fucked for once, good .
The billions of dollars come out of municiple budget? (Or whatever it's called?)
If its provincial you all should be pissed.
But i think its federal... so us west coasties can be pissed too.......
seriously, there was like zilch revenue except for maybe hotels for the city ... all downtown businesses were closed! ... everyone in town left to avoid the nightmare that was this summit ... and once you agree to host it - you can't change your mind when harper changes the location ... it's not that simple ... and the notion that there would be a replacement city waiting in the wings is a myth as well ... he wanted to hold the G8 in muskoka (conservative riding) - a place that ACTUALLY got infrastructure money for it ... then when he was told he needed a bigger place ... one that will have to ABSORB costs ... why not go and fuck over the people of toronto ...
everyone can see what these summits do to cities ... it's quite evident ...
I'm sure there was plenty of revenue, all these cops, protesters, reporters and the the other out of towners had to be housed and fed. Your mayor knew full well the trouble these summits cause, he could have said no from the get go, Sorry if Toronto wants to be known as this great international city then sometimes your city will have to host these things and quit crying about it . So the people of Toronto got fucked for once, good .
The billions of dollars come out of municiple budget? (Or whatever it's called?)
If its provincial you all should be pissed.
But i think its federal... so us west coasties can be pissed too.......
Not that i'm defending Toronto at all
The money came from the federal government and I'm pissed as much as anyone, just a huge waste of money, but then he goes and announces billions more to be given away at the summit, we are just coming out of a recession, how about help the Joe Somebody who has lost is job in this country.
Toronto should never be defended, . As for provincial I'm sure it cost us some as well and believe me plenty of people say they are pissed at McGuilty, all hes done is lied in 7 years as leader...from the health tax, HST, eco taxes and who knows whats next.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
The money came from the federal government and I'm pissed as much as anyone, just a huge waste of money, but then he goes and announces billions more to be given away at the summit, we are just coming out of a recession, how about help the Joe Somebody who has lost is job in this country.
Toronto should never be defended, . As for provincial I'm sure it cost us some as well and believe me plenty of people say they are pissed at McGuilty, all hes done is lied in 7 years as leader...from the health tax, HST, eco taxes and who knows whats next.
Yah we've had gordo for something like 10 years!! And got shafted by the HST. He's always got this expression on his face that you just want to punch.
I really never understood how he gets voted in again and again... its like the GW Bush phenomenon...
The money came from the federal government and I'm pissed as much as anyone, just a huge waste of money, but then he goes and announces billions more to be given away at the summit, we are just coming out of a recession, how about help the Joe Somebody who has lost is job in this country.
Toronto should never be defended, . As for provincial I'm sure it cost us some as well and believe me plenty of people say they are pissed at McGuilty, all hes done is lied in 7 years as leader...from the health tax, HST, eco taxes and who knows whats next.
Yah we've had gordo for something like 10 years!! And got shafted by the HST. He's always got this expression on his face that you just want to punch.
I really never understood how he gets voted in again and again... its like the GW Bush phenomenon...
I) know the feeling...McGuilty always has this awe shucks look on his face, almost like he really thinks he's done a good job. Ontario was in a recession a good year before the rest of the country, he has doubled On tario's total debt in just 7 years, hit us with probably the 2 largest tax increases in Ontario's history, the health tax and HST, increased the size of the government by a huge amount, in my opinion his government has been a big fuck up, other thing that are going to effect us for years to come are increased hydro/water rates, eco tax on even prescription medicine. I really hope October 2011 brings an end to this government, personally I see a minority government being formed.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I'm sure there was plenty of revenue, all these cops, protesters, reporters and the the other out of towners had to be housed and fed. Your mayor knew full well the trouble these summits cause, he could have said no from the get go, Sorry if Toronto wants to be known as this great international city then sometimes your city will have to host these things and quit crying about it . So the people of Toronto got fucked for once, good .
this is sad
you guys (as in all the toronto haters) are so full of myths it's sad ... at least hate toronto for things that are real instead ... sheesh ...
i could inform you but somehow i really don't think you would listen ...
I'm sure there was plenty of revenue, all these cops, protesters, reporters and the the other out of towners had to be housed and fed. Your mayor knew full well the trouble these summits cause, he could have said no from the get go, Sorry if Toronto wants to be known as this great international city then sometimes your city will have to host these things and quit crying about it . So the people of Toronto got fucked for once, good .
this is sad
you guys (as in all the toronto haters) are so full of myths it's sad ... at least hate toronto for things that are real instead ... sheesh ...
i could inform you but somehow i really don't think you would listen ...
hey i didn't agree that t dot deserved to be trashed and hurt the way it did
i know not everyone from toronto is an ass hole - in fact probably very few are!
its just the one's ive met i guess.
i remember a couple of torontonians in a hostel in london, different travellers were asking what canada was like... "there's nothing much outside of toronto, actually" - they were dead serious! It wasn't until I told them I was from Vancouver that they said "oh, and vancouver i guess :roll: "
hey i didn't agree that t dot deserved to be trashed and hurt the way it did
i know not everyone from toronto is an ass hole - in fact probably very few are!
its just the one's ive met i guess.
i remember a couple of torontonians in a hostel in london, different travellers were asking what canada was like... "there's nothing much outside of toronto, actually" - they were dead serious! It wasn't until I told them I was from Vancouver that they said "oh, and vancouver i guess :roll: "
fucking torontonains...
oh ... there are plenty of pricks in toronto ... just like everywhere else ... but if you're gonna knock the city - at least have some knowledge of it ...
:mad: http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?opt ... mival=5488
More proof our governments are not above side-stepping our rights. So much for our charter rights of speech and assembly….again.
This should be an interesting lawsuit to follow, I hope this guy doesn’t agree to an out-of-court settlement, and at least has his say in court…despite the fact that the Ontario government has already shown that they intend to sweep this case, the mismanagement of security, and police abuse during the summit, under the rug.
Wow Morons trashed and looted some busineses today. 5 cop cars were vandalized (4 set on fire) at the biggest political event in the word (G8/G20)...and nobody is AWARE of it?? WOW
I'm told CNN covered it.
Well I'll say this...it's a small handful of douchebags who are NOT local btw using Black Bloc tactics and ruining things for everyone and making my beautiful unsafe to be in :(
I lost a shift of work today (At ACC) due to this bulllshit! Concert was cancelled (right decision to cancel it btw).
I REALLY hope these assclowns don't repeat this behaviour tomorrow.
?
that's a victory in the class war. morons? they know enough to be pissed off. that's more than i can say for most of america.
Wow Morons trashed and looted some busineses today. 5 cop cars were vandalized (4 set on fire) at the biggest political event in the word (G8/G20)...and nobody is AWARE of it?? WOW
I'm told CNN covered it.
Well I'll say this...it's a small handful of douchebags who are NOT local btw using Black Bloc tactics and ruining things for everyone and making my beautiful unsafe to be in :(
I lost a shift of work today (At ACC) due to this bulllshit! Concert was cancelled (right decision to cancel it btw).
I REALLY hope these assclowns don't repeat this behaviour tomorrow.
?
that's a victory in the class war. morons? they know enough to be pissed off. that's more than i can say for most of america.
they weren't pissed off about anything, they were just there to break stuff and make stephen harper's obscene security budget look worthwhile.
they literally weren't speaking out against anything.
Wow Morons trashed and looted some busineses today. 5 cop cars were vandalized (4 set on fire) at the biggest political event in the word (G8/G20)...and nobody is AWARE of it?? WOW
I'm told CNN covered it.
Well I'll say this...it's a small handful of douchebags who are NOT local btw using Black Bloc tactics and ruining things for everyone and making my beautiful unsafe to be in :(
I lost a shift of work today (At ACC) due to this bulllshit! Concert was cancelled (right decision to cancel it btw).
I REALLY hope these assclowns don't repeat this behaviour tomorrow.
?
that's a victory in the class war. morons? they know enough to be pissed off. that's more than i can say for most of america.
they weren't pissed off about anything, they were just there to break stuff and make stephen harper's obscene security budget look worthwhile.
they literally weren't speaking out against anything.
you misunderstood.
5 burning police cars is victory. the people controlled the streets, not the so called authorities.
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If its provincial you all should be pissed.
But i think its federal... so us west coasties can be pissed too.......
Not that i'm defending Toronto at all
The money came from the federal government and I'm pissed as much as anyone, just a huge waste of money, but then he goes and announces billions more to be given away at the summit, we are just coming out of a recession, how about help the Joe Somebody who has lost is job in this country.
Toronto should never be defended,
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I really never understood how he gets voted in again and again... its like the GW Bush phenomenon...
I) know the feeling...McGuilty always has this awe shucks look on his face, almost like he really thinks he's done a good job. Ontario was in a recession a good year before the rest of the country, he has doubled On tario's total debt in just 7 years, hit us with probably the 2 largest tax increases in Ontario's history, the health tax and HST, increased the size of the government by a huge amount, in my opinion his government has been a big fuck up, other thing that are going to effect us for years to come are increased hydro/water rates, eco tax on even prescription medicine. I really hope October 2011 brings an end to this government, personally I see a minority government being formed.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
this is sad
you guys (as in all the toronto haters) are so full of myths it's sad ... at least hate toronto for things that are real instead ... sheesh ...
i could inform you but somehow i really don't think you would listen ...
i know not everyone from toronto is an ass hole - in fact probably very few are!
its just the one's ive met i guess.
i remember a couple of torontonians in a hostel in london, different travellers were asking what canada was like... "there's nothing much outside of toronto, actually" - they were dead serious! It wasn't until I told them I was from Vancouver that they said "oh, and vancouver i guess :roll: "
fucking torontonains...
oh ... there are plenty of pricks in toronto ... just like everywhere else ... but if you're gonna knock the city - at least have some knowledge of it ...
:geek:
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?opt ... mival=5488
More proof our governments are not above side-stepping our rights. So much for our charter rights of speech and assembly….again.
This should be an interesting lawsuit to follow, I hope this guy doesn’t agree to an out-of-court settlement, and at least has his say in court…despite the fact that the Ontario government has already shown that they intend to sweep this case, the mismanagement of security, and police abuse during the summit, under the rug.
that's a victory in the class war. morons? they know enough to be pissed off. that's more than i can say for most of america.
they literally weren't speaking out against anything.
you misunderstood.
5 burning police cars is victory. the people controlled the streets, not the so called authorities.