idiots at the g20 protests

haffajappa

are these guys the same as the ones who came to vancouver during 2010 - by that i mean, the violent ones that have nothing better to do than ruin it for legitimate protesters with their pointless angst and violence...
it really pisses me off... especially when people have put ina lot of time and effort to create a meaningful and peaceful protest... these idiots use their rights to freedom of speech just to create violence for the sake of violence - and they ruin everyone else's message with it.

Godfather.

haffajappa wrote:

are these guys the same as the ones who came to vancouver during 2010 - by that i mean, the violent ones that have nothing better to do than ruin it for legitimate protesters with their pointless angst and violence...
it really pisses me off... especially when people have put ina lot of time and effort to create a meaningful and peaceful protest... these idiots use their rights to freedom of speech just to create violence for the sake of violence - and they ruin everyone else's message with it.

this is funny....pot this is kettle
no offence man but to hear a protester complain about another protester is funny.

Godfather.

haffajappa

Godfather. wrote:

haffajappa wrote:

are these guys the same as the ones who came to vancouver during 2010 - by that i mean, the violent ones that have nothing better to do than ruin it for legitimate protesters with their pointless angst and violence...
it really pisses me off... especially when people have put ina lot of time and effort to create a meaningful and peaceful protest... these idiots use their rights to freedom of speech just to create violence for the sake of violence - and they ruin everyone else's message with it.

this is funny....pot this is kettle
no offence man but to hear a protester complain about another protester is funny.

Godfather.

sorry, am i missing something? what protests ahve you seen me at exactly?
i guess for one i should simplify it and clarify it a little bit more for you, and say i shouldn't confuse the word protester, because these idiots aren't really protesting anything.

if you can't see the difference between a peaceful protest and some anarchists looking to smash things just for the sake of trying to be edgy and anti-establishment then i'm not even going waste my time with you.

yoke

i think it was the tea party

flywallyfly

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur

On August 20, 2007, three protesters in Montebello, Canada during meetings of the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America were discovered to be police provocateurs by Dave Coles, president of the Communications, Energy and Paperworkers Union of Canada. The entire incident was filmed and posted on YouTube before being picked up by the mainstream media. The video [4] shows three masked men, one of whom was armed with a large rock, being confronted by peaceful protesters. After the men breached the police line, they were brought to the ground, handcuffed, and taken away. Photographs revealed that their boot-tread matched that of the arresting officers. Although they at first denied that the individuals in question were agents provocateurs, the Sûreté du Québec issued a news release on August 23 admitting that the three protesters were, in fact, police officers.[5][6]

Godfather.

haffajappa wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

haffajappa wrote:

are these guys the same as the ones who came to vancouver during 2010 - by that i mean, the violent ones that have nothing better to do than ruin it for legitimate protesters with their pointless angst and violence...
it really pisses me off... especially when people have put ina lot of time and effort to create a meaningful and peaceful protest... these idiots use their rights to freedom of speech just to create violence for the sake of violence - and they ruin everyone else's message with it.

this is funny....pot this is kettle
no offence man but to hear a protester complain about another protester is funny.

Godfather.

sorry, am i missing something? what protests ahve you seen me at exactly?
i guess for one i should simplify it and clarify it a little bit more for you, and say i shouldn't confuse the word protester, because these idiots aren't really protesting anything.

if you can't see the difference between a peaceful protest and some anarchists looking to smash things just for the sake of trying to be edgy and anti-establishment then i'm not even going waste my time with you.

sorry,I thought you had posted in a earlier thread that you had attended protests before, I don't know anything about the G20 protests I just thought it was funny that a protester would complain about another protester.

Godfather.

ACCBootlegGoddess

Wow Morons trashed and looted some busineses today. 5 cop cars were vandalized (4 set on fire) at the biggest political event in the word (G8/G20)...and nobody is AWARE of it?? WOW
I'm told CNN covered it.

Well I'll say this...it's a small handful of douchebags who are NOT local btw using Black Bloc tactics and ruining things for everyone and making my beautiful unsafe to be in :(

I lost a shift of work today (At ACC) due to this bulllshit! Concert was cancelled (right decision to cancel it btw).

I REALLY hope these assclowns don't repeat this behaviour tomorrow.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

Godfather. wrote:

haffajappa wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

this is funny....pot this is kettle
no offence man but to hear a protester complain about another protester is funny.

Godfather.

sorry, am i missing something? what protests ahve you seen me at exactly?
i guess for one i should simplify it and clarify it a little bit more for you, and say i shouldn't confuse the word protester, because these idiots aren't really protesting anything.

if you can't see the difference between a peaceful protest and some anarchists looking to smash things just for the sake of trying to be edgy and anti-establishment then i'm not even going waste my time with you.

sorry,I thought you had posted in a earlier thread that you had attended protests before, I don't know anything about the G20 protests I just thought it was funny that a protester would complain about another protester.

Godfather.

im not sure why you are having such difficulty with this. its not a hard thing to grasp.

Peaceful protestors and thugs who just need an excuse to break shit are not the same thing.

lukin2006

First of all, what do people expect, this seems to happen at every G8/G20 summit. However Toronto has no right to whine, they know this shit happens and could very easily said we don't want you here and if you insist on being here you'll get no help from us. But they want the money that all the people brought to the city these past few days.

Now as a Canadian citizen I am appalled at the cost of these 2 summits, that 1-2 billion could go along way toward solving some health care problems or helping Joe somebody who lost his job at auto plant or anywhere for that matter, but no, we got to spend billions on some dumb summit for a bunch of elite's politicians just so they can devise a way to spend more of my and other Canadians tax $$$$$ in Africa and other so called developing countries (who never seem to develop). As far as I'm concerned it's about time our tax $$$ get spent here to help Canadians first.

pandora

We will have much more of this, violence, because peaceful protests seem to do absolutely nothing to change anything and people are upset with that and the ways of the world. Emotions are running high and probably will only get worse as people feel more and more helpless. There is a conspiracy theory for everything and the lack of trust and faith is growing along with a lack of patience.

lukin2006

pandora wrote:

We will have much more of this, violence, because peaceful protests seem to do absolutely nothing to change anything and people are upset with that and the ways of the world. Emotions are running high and probably will only get worse as people feel more and more helpless. There is a conspiracy theory for everything and the lack of trust and faith is growing along with a lack of patience.

That's bullshit. I am sure most of these vandals aren't from Toronto, yet they are destroying property that the people in Toronto work hard to maintain. How do you figure people aren't trying, how many trillions has the west given to these developing countries over the years. Maybe these protesters need to head to these developing countries and protest the way they do things and start holding them accountable for their actions, like the fact that many African men refuse too wear condoms which continues the spread of HIV and other STD's and unwanted pregnancies.

Sorry I used to drink the Bono soup on Africa, but the west does more than it's fair share now it's time that these countries that receive this aid start taking responsibility and be accountable.

pandora

lukin2006 wrote:

pandora wrote:

We will have much more of this, violence, because peaceful protests seem to do absolutely nothing to change anything and people are upset with that and the ways of the world. Emotions are running high and probably will only get worse as people feel more and more helpless. There is a conspiracy theory for everything and the lack of trust and faith is growing along with a lack of patience.

That's bullshit. I am sure most of these vandals aren't from Toronto, yet they are destroying property that the people in Toronto work hard to maintain. How do you figure people aren't trying, how many trillions has the west given to these developing countries over the years. Maybe these protesters need to head to these developing countries and protest the way they do things and start holding them accountable for their actions, like the fact that many African men refuse too wear condoms which continues the spread of HIV and other STD's and unwanted pregnancies.

Sorry I used to drink the Bono soup on Africa, but the west does more than it's fair share now it's time that these countries that receive this aid start taking responsibility and be accountable.

Perhaps you misunderstood I didn't say it was right or that I was for or against anything, I said we will see much more of this in the future, violence. Not necessarily foreign aid related but all protests because people, all people are at their wits end .

lukin2006

pandora wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

pandora wrote:

We will have much more of this, violence, because peaceful protests seem to do absolutely nothing to change anything and people are upset with that and the ways of the world. Emotions are running high and probably will only get worse as people feel more and more helpless. There is a conspiracy theory for everything and the lack of trust and faith is growing along with a lack of patience.

That's bullshit. I am sure most of these vandals aren't from Toronto, yet they are destroying property that the people in Toronto work hard to maintain. How do you figure people aren't trying, how many trillions has the west given to these developing countries over the years. Maybe these protesters need to head to these developing countries and protest the way they do things and start holding them accountable for their actions, like the fact that many African men refuse too wear condoms which continues the spread of HIV and other STD's and unwanted pregnancies.

Sorry I used to drink the Bono soup on Africa, but the west does more than it's fair share now it's time that these countries that receive this aid start taking responsibility and be accountable.

Perhaps you misunderstood I didn't say it was right or that I was for or against anything, I said we will see much more of this in the future, violence. Not necessarily foreign aid related but all protests because people, all people are at their wits end .

Really the only things that frustrates me is that my taxes are constantly being given to these countries when their is plenty of folk here that needs help. Maybe it's time that everybody looks at how things are being done, just giving money is not the answer. Education and teaching them to do for themselves would be a far better solution, but who knows what the solution, but money is not solving very many of the problems.

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.
Chinese Proverb

MrMerkinball

ACCBootlegGoddess wrote:

Wow Morons trashed and looted some busineses today. 5 cop cars were vandalized (4 set on fire) at the biggest political event in the word (G8/G20)...and nobody is AWARE of it?? WOW
I'm told CNN covered it.

Well I'll say this...it's a small handful of douchebags who are NOT local btw using Black Bloc tactics and ruining things for everyone and making my beautiful unsafe to be in :(

I lost a shift of work today (At ACC) due to this bulllshit! Concert was cancelled (right decision to cancel it btw).

I REALLY hope these assclowns don't repeat this behaviour tomorrow.

What a day!!! They are going to repeat it again today. Only worse. There will be more police response.

Godfather.

MrMerkinball wrote:

ACCBootlegGoddess wrote:

Wow Morons trashed and looted some busineses today. 5 cop cars were vandalized (4 set on fire) at the biggest political event in the word (G8/G20)...and nobody is AWARE of it?? WOW
I'm told CNN covered it.

Well I'll say this...it's a small handful of douchebags who are NOT local btw using Black Bloc tactics and ruining things for everyone and making my beautiful unsafe to be in :(

I lost a shift of work today (At ACC) due to this bulllshit! Concert was cancelled (right decision to cancel it btw).

I REALLY hope these assclowns don't repeat this behaviour tomorrow.

What a day!!! They are going to repeat it again today. Only worse. There will be more police response.

Marshall law........

Godfather.

haffajappa

lukin2006 wrote:

First of all, what do people expect, this seems to happen at every G8/G20 summit. However Toronto has no right to whine, they know this shit happens and could very easily said we don't want you here and if you insist on being here you'll get no help from us. But they want the money that all the people brought to the city these past few days.

Now as a Canadian citizen I am appalled at the cost of these 2 summits, that 1-2 billion could go along way toward solving some health care problems or helping Joe somebody who lost his job at auto plant or anywhere for that matter, but no, we got to spend billions on some dumb summit for a bunch of elite's politicians just so they can devise a way to spend more of my and other Canadians tax $$$$$ in Africa and other so called developing countries (who never seem to develop). As far as I'm concerned it's about time our tax $$$ get spent here to help Canadians first.

Yeh, its not like we don't expect violence. They should just not announce to ANYONE that there will be a summit, have it in secret and then when it's done come out and say - hey we just has a summit and these are our goals. Might save us a few billion dollars and a fake lake. Fucking Harper!

The only thing I don't really agree with you is the Africa stuff - at least the condoms thing you mentioned... You know that has a LOT to do with the Catholic Church right? I see it as a bit of a problem when they are telling people there that condoms are lined with HIV... We're never going to solve the Aids crisis until we get the Pope to shut the fuck up...

lukin2006

Godfather. wrote:

MrMerkinball wrote:

ACCBootlegGoddess wrote:

Wow Morons trashed and looted some busineses today. 5 cop cars were vandalized (4 set on fire) at the biggest political event in the word (G8/G20)...and nobody is AWARE of it?? WOW
I'm told CNN covered it.

Well I'll say this...it's a small handful of douchebags who are NOT local btw using Black Bloc tactics and ruining things for everyone and making my beautiful unsafe to be in :(

I lost a shift of work today (At ACC) due to this bulllshit! Concert was cancelled (right decision to cancel it btw).

I REALLY hope these assclowns don't repeat this behaviour tomorrow.

What a day!!! They are going to repeat it again today. Only worse. There will be more police response.

Marshall law........

Godfather.

Sorry I don't want to see Marshall Law in my country.

lukin2006

haffajappa wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

First of all, what do people expect, this seems to happen at every G8/G20 summit. However Toronto has no right to whine, they know this shit happens and could very easily said we don't want you here and if you insist on being here you'll get no help from us. But they want the money that all the people brought to the city these past few days.

Now as a Canadian citizen I am appalled at the cost of these 2 summits, that 1-2 billion could go along way toward solving some health care problems or helping Joe somebody who lost his job at auto plant or anywhere for that matter, but no, we got to spend billions on some dumb summit for a bunch of elite's politicians just so they can devise a way to spend more of my and other Canadians tax $$$$$ in Africa and other so called developing countries (who never seem to develop). As far as I'm concerned it's about time our tax $$$ get spent here to help Canadians first.

Yeh, its not like we don't expect violence. They should just not announce to ANYONE that there will be a summit, have it in secret and then when it's done come out and say - hey we just has a summit and these are our goals. Might save us a few billion dollars and a fake lake. Fucking Harper!

The only thing I don't really agree with you is the Africa stuff - at least the condoms thing you mentioned... You know that has a LOT to do with the Catholic Church right? I see it as a bit of a problem when they are telling people there that condoms are lined with HIV... We're never going to solve the Aids crisis until we get the Pope to shut the fuck up...

If you must hold these meetings why not at a military base, probably great security, but better yet why not use modern technology like conference calls. Yes I know that has a lot to do with the church, and i have no use for the pope or the catholic church or any church for that matter. The catholic church is a whole new thread, lol.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

lukin2006 wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

Marshall law........

Godfather.

Sorry I don't want to see Marshall Law in my country.

who's this Marshall character?? oh, you mean MARTIAL. Sorry, just had to! :P

ACCBootlegGoddess

lukin2006 wrote:

First of all, what do people expect, this seems to happen at every G8/G20 summit. However Toronto has no right to whine, they know this shit happens and could very easily said we don't want you here and if you insist on being here you'll get no help from us. But they want the money that all the people brought to the city these past few days.

Now as a Canadian citizen I am appalled at the cost of these 2 summits, that 1-2 billion could go along way toward solving some health care problems or helping Joe somebody who lost his job at auto plant or anywhere for that matter, but no, we got to spend billions on some dumb summit for a bunch of elite's politicians just so they can devise a way to spend more of my and other Canadians tax $$$$$ in Africa and other so called developing countries (who never seem to develop). As far as I'm concerned it's about time our tax $$$ get spent here to help Canadians first.

Toronto has no right to whine??? None of those assholes who looted and vandalized my city were FROM my city!! We have protests here ALL THE TIME and NONE end up like this...NONE!
How can we say we don't want you here when a) We have something called the right to free speech and assembly and b) we don't know who these assholes engaging in black bloc tactics are until it HAPPENS. I'm not about limiting the movement of law abiding citizens whether they are Canadian Citizens or another countries citizens because something COULD happen.
There is footage of people smashing windows and cops just WATCHING them!! They could have arrested them and they didn't! Perhaps they were waiting for backup...I dunno.
Those people did NOT get help from Torontonians. In fact it was in fact the peaceful protesters who were going to those businesses and apologizing to the owners for the damage, telling them that those people were NOT part of their organization and their actions were NOT condoned by the other 99% of people on the street.

I agree with your second paragraph though. Despite what happened yesterday I totally think $1-2 billion was VERY excessive! The summit didn't need that small, ugly fake lake either!
I'm so glad this is almost over and these assholes can get the fuck out of my city! I want my city back. I want to go out at lunch on a workday and not have cops every 10 feet!!

ACCBootlegGoddess

MrMerkinball wrote:

ACCBootlegGoddess wrote:

Wow Morons trashed and looted some busineses today. 5 cop cars were vandalized (4 set on fire) at the biggest political event in the word (G8/G20)...and nobody is AWARE of it?? WOW
I'm told CNN covered it.

Well I'll say this...it's a small handful of douchebags who are NOT local btw using Black Bloc tactics and ruining things for everyone and making my beautiful unsafe to be in :(

I lost a shift of work today (At ACC) due to this bulllshit! Concert was cancelled (right decision to cancel it btw).

I REALLY hope these assclowns don't repeat this behaviour tomorrow.

What a day!!! They are going to repeat it again today. Only worse. There will be more police response.

Thank God today has been better. Dunno about the actions of some cops, but since I'm not there I can't comment on what I'm seeing on TV as I'm likely not seeing the whole story. Were you working yesterday?? I know your work was on lockdown and some of the damage was right near there. Hope you were nowhere near there.
One of the police cars that were lit on fire was near my work....dunno if my building was damanged (there is a small bank/machines on the main floor). I'll find out when I go in tomorrow.

Parksy

$1 Billion.

My understanding is that is what WE (by WE... Canadians, Ontarians, Torontonians.) are paying for 'security'.

Got that out the way... now then...

To destroy or not destroy? that is the question. And the answer is simple.

People don't listen to protesters. They listen to the news. The news cover stories. People protesting is not a story. People burning police cars is.

Is it right? No. I do not condone it.

Is $1 Billion right? No. I do not condone it.

Bottom line is... people are pissed. And when people are pissed, they want to be heard or seen.

Now I want to comment on what someone I think Lukin something or other said regarding people who are not from Toronto coming to Toronto and destroying businesses that Torontonians maintain....

Here's a thought...... 1000's of police... A billion dollars.

You know who they care about? The foreign dignitaries within the G20 security zone. If these people who are so upset at the protesters for breaking their windows want to REALLY be angry at someone.... how about the government that spent a billion dollars to protect a a few people for a weekend...

This almost unbelievable flop is embarrassing.

And it's nowhere near over.

When all is said and done... when Obama and the gang are gone.... what will have to show? Nothing. Except a $1B bill and a LOT of pissed off citizens.

Oh, and let's forget the people who are being oppressed and assaulted by these Police for no apparent reason.

It's shameful to know that we spent $1B to toss our Charter of Rights and Freedoms out the window just for the sake of the very few.

Violent protesting should not be the answer... but what is the answer? That's an actual question too... feel free to provide suggestions. And no, I'm not convinced peaceful protests work.

Disclaimer: I do not condone the destruction of property nor do I hate Police. This is merely an observation. I can only assume that the aforementioned issues are what could drive people to destroy things.

Godfather.

Parksy wrote:

$1 Billion.

My understanding is that is what WE (by WE... Canadians, Ontarians, Torontonians.) are paying for 'security'.

Got that out the way... now then...

To destroy or not destroy? that is the question. And the answer is simple.

People don't listen to protesters. They listen to the news. The news cover stories. People protesting is not a story. People burning police cars is.

Is it right? No. I do not condone it.

Is $1 Billion right? No. I do not condone it.

Bottom line is... people are pissed. And when people are pissed, they want to be heard or seen.

Now I want to comment on what someone I think Lukin something or other said regarding people who are not from Toronto coming to Toronto and destroying businesses that Torontonians maintain....

Here's a thought...... 1000's of police... A billion dollars.

You know who they care about? The foreign dignitaries within the G20 security zone. If these people who are so upset at the protesters for breaking their windows want to REALLY be angry at someone.... how about the government that spent a billion dollars to protect a a few people for a weekend...

This almost unbelievable flop is embarrassing.

And it's nowhere near over.

When all is said and done... when Obama and the gang are gone.... what will have to show? Nothing. Except a $1B bill and a LOT of pissed off citizens.

Oh, and let's forget the people who are being oppressed and assaulted by these Police for no apparent reason.

It's shameful to know that we spent $1B to toss our Charter of Rights and Freedoms out the window just for the sake of the very few.

Violent protesting should not be the answer... but what is the answer? That's an actual question too... feel free to provide suggestions. And no, I'm not convinced peaceful protests work.

Disclaimer: I do not condone the destruction of property nor do I hate Police. This is merely an observation. I can only assume that the aforementioned issues are what could drive people to destroy things.

I was reading about this stuff on FOXNEWS and I was wondering if the violent protesters had any influence or will have any influence on the bottom line of their decisions in the summit meeting, it sounds bad but but as you said people are pissed and nobody listens until something happens to really get their attention,

quote from AL Capone: "you can get further with a kind word and a gun then you can with just a kind word"

I wonder how true that is in the real world.

Godfather.

Parksy

Hi Folks,

Just an update, they're (The Police) now pulling people from the streets and arresting them. For no apparent reason other than being on the street.

If only we had a document that was recognized by law that informed us of our basic rights as citizens... some sort of .... CHARTER.... yeah, a charter that lays down basic rights for citizens.

Perhaps it could suggest that we would be allowed to peacefully assemble... and be able to move about of our own free will so long as we weren't harming anyone...

HEY!!!! It could also say... and I know this is a long shot... but it could also say that police are not allowed to search us without probable cause.

I think I'm on to something here....

Parksy

...........


DAMN!

Someone else thought of this already. 28 years ago.

Section 2 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms:

Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
A: freedom of conscience and religion,
B: freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication,
C: freedom of peaceful assembly,
freedom of association.

Section 7

Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of the person and the right not to be deprived thereof except in accordance with the principles of fundamental justice.

Section 8

Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure.

Section 9

Everyone has the right not to be arbitrarily detained or imprisoned.




something got REALLLLLLY fucked up in Toronto today.

catefrances

well.. this is what happens when idiots decide violence is the answer. the police see everyone as a potential violent protestor.

lukin2006

ACCBootlegGoddess wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

First of all, what do people expect, this seems to happen at every G8/G20 summit. However Toronto has no right to whine, they know this shit happens and could very easily said we don't want you here and if you insist on being here you'll get no help from us. But they want the money that all the people brought to the city these past few days.

Now as a Canadian citizen I am appalled at the cost of these 2 summits, that 1-2 billion could go along way toward solving some health care problems or helping Joe somebody who lost his job at auto plant or anywhere for that matter, but no, we got to spend billions on some dumb summit for a bunch of elite's politicians just so they can devise a way to spend more of my and other Canadians tax $$$$$ in Africa and other so called developing countries (who never seem to develop). As far as I'm concerned it's about time our tax $$$ get spent here to help Canadians first.

Toronto has no right to whine??? None of those assholes who looted and vandalized my city were FROM my city!! We have protests here ALL THE TIME and NONE end up like this...NONE!
How can we say we don't want you here when a) We have something called the right to free speech and assembly and b) we don't know who these assholes engaging in black bloc tactics are until it HAPPENS. I'm not about limiting the movement of law abiding citizens whether they are Canadian Citizens or another countries citizens because something COULD happen.
There is footage of people smashing windows and cops just WATCHING them!! They could have arrested them and they didn't! Perhaps they were waiting for backup...I dunno.
Those people did NOT get help from Torontonians. In fact it was in fact the peaceful protesters who were going to those businesses and apologizing to the owners for the damage, telling them that those people were NOT part of their organization and their actions were NOT condoned by the other 99% of people on the street.

I agree with your second paragraph though. Despite what happened yesterday I totally think $1-2 billion was VERY excessive! The summit didn't need that small, ugly fake lake either!
I'm so glad this is almost over and these assholes can get the fuck out of my city! I want my city back. I want to go out at lunch on a workday and not have cops every 10 feet!!

Well first of all when I say whine, I mean the mayor, police chief and head of the opp. Sorry your offended, but it seems every time these meetings take place the violence happens, and I will stand by what I said, the mayor simply could have said *we don't want the summit here", but lets face it he wanted the business that came to town. I'd love to know how much revenue this summit generated Toronto, millions I bet, but cost all of Canada 1-2b. Like I said sorry your offended but you know as well as I do that these summits bring vandals and violence. But knowing Harper and since he has no Toronto area MP's he put this summit there on purpose so all the liberal and NDP mp's will be barraged with emails and calls, hehehehe.

Parksy

catefrances wrote:

well.. this is what happens when idiots decide violence is the answer. the police see everyone as a potential violent protestor.

hmmm....


"everyone" ...


where have I seen that word before???

OH WAIT!

It's the word that begins EVERY section in the Charter.

Sorry, but a handful of people breaking windows does not give police justification to arrest whomever they want.

catefrances

Parksy wrote:

catefrances wrote:

well.. this is what happens when idiots decide violence is the answer. the police see everyone as a potential violent protestor.

hmmm....


"everyone" ...


where have I seen that word before???

OH WAIT!

It's the word that begins EVERY section in the Charter.

Sorry, but a handful of people breaking windows does not give police to arrest whomever they want.

i didnt say it did.

Parksy

ok good ya had me worried there.

catefrances

Parksy wrote:

ok good ya had me worried there.

i just think everyone(yep theres that word again) needs to take responsibility for their actions. sure protest, i do it, but totally disassociate yourself from violent factions. make sure they know it is totally unacceptable for them to bring the polices wrath down upon the people. violent protestors need to marginalised. they do nothing whatsoever for whatever cause theyre protesting against. and they give peaceful proetsors a bad name.