obama looking for ass to kick....

Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
edited June 2010 in A Moving Train
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06 ... tastrophe/

HA HA, LOOK OUT BOYS WE GOT US A NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN !

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  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    And what is the perfect course of action he should be taking and should have taken? Enlighten us.
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  • dasvidanadasvidana Grand Junction CO Posts: 1,349
    I hope Obama has a really big foot.
    It's nice to be nice to the nice.
  • He should start with his own dumb ass.
  • he still standshe still stands Posts: 2,835
    Who's to blame? The people who supply the world with their demands of an incredibly dangerous substance that is legal to extract from the sea by decree of our governments? There is a difference between "intent to break the law" and a " big fucking mistake." I guess this might fall under the legal term of "negligence" but that will be hard to prove I think, and even so, it would be a civil wrong only punishable by fines. The whole economic and judicial system of the country and the entire world supports this sort of behavior and when inevitably something goes wrong we all point fingers. The only smart thing to do, if you don't want to see this sort of capitalist "externality" occur again, is to defeat capitalism.
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  • WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    He must have heard what Spike lee said about him.
    IMO he didn't sound to presidential.More like a Chicago thug.
  • Stypo420Stypo420 Posts: 519
    Who's to blame? The people who supply the world with their demands of an incredibly dangerous substance that is legal to extract from the sea by decree of our governments? There is a difference between "intent to break the law" and a " big fucking mistake." I guess this might fall under the legal term of "negligence" but that will be hard to prove I think, and even so, it would be a civil wrong only punishable by fines. The whole economic and judicial system of the country and the entire world supports this sort of behavior and when inevitably something goes wrong we all point fingers. The only smart thing to do, if you don't want to see this sort of capitalist "externality" occur again, is to defeat capitalism.
    :clap::clap: where do I sign up?

    Look people wanted more anger (like it is going to help) he is giving them more anger. It is just a sound bite hell call it his "we gotta fight em there so we don't fight em here" moment. He is just pandering it is part of the job.
    BinFrog wrote:
    And what is the perfect course of action he should be taking and should have taken? Enlighten us.

    Yes Godfather. please enlighten us what would have made you happy what is you perfect presidential response?
  • He Still Stands (for tyranny):

    "Defeat Capitalism?"

    A lot of American blood has been spilled to avoid the kind of tyranny you are advocating.

    I submit, that it is you, who needs defeating.
  • And by the way, ALL productive nations, capitalist or other, drill for oil.

    "Defeat Capitalism!" Yeah. That will prevent oil spills.

    Dangerously ignorant.
  • dasvidanadasvidana Grand Junction CO Posts: 1,349
    This big fucking mess happened because the corporate heads and the federal regulators have colluded to make the most profits for themselves. They have lobbied to have weaker rules and the politicians gave it to them in exchange for campaign donations. I think that both are to blame and if this Congress wants any credibility at all, they will require safety measures from anyone wanting to do business in the gulf again and no corporate caps on damages if those measures aren't followed.
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  • he still standshe still stands Posts: 2,835
    He Still Stands (for tyranny):

    "Defeat Capitalism?"

    A lot of American blood has been spilled to avoid the kind of tyranny you are advocating.

    I submit, that it is you, who needs defeating.

    Do you disagree that capitalist externalities like this are inevitable? I think that would pretty much be the only dissenting opinion on that subject that I've heard (well, other than Rush Limbaugh). Capitalism is a self-defeating system of everlasting increases in production and consumption of finite resources. It is like a computer program with a virus of built-in obsolesence. The question is whether or not your willing to see the environment, animals (including humans), and plants life destroyed at the expense of modern day conveniences and gluttony and eventual self-imposed human extinction. I'm also not a big fan of wage slavery and the increasing disparity between rich and poor. As far as "advocating tyranny", that couldn't be farther from the truth. I don't need to be lead by a collection of individuals OR a single ruler. Quite the contrary, I don't need to be lead by anyone.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    lgoose420 wrote:
    Who's to blame? The people who supply the world with their demands of an incredibly dangerous substance that is legal to extract from the sea by decree of our governments? There is a difference between "intent to break the law" and a " big fucking mistake." I guess this might fall under the legal term of "negligence" but that will be hard to prove I think, and even so, it would be a civil wrong only punishable by fines. The whole economic and judicial system of the country and the entire world supports this sort of behavior and when inevitably something goes wrong we all point fingers. The only smart thing to do, if you don't want to see this sort of capitalist "externality" occur again, is to defeat capitalism.
    :clap::clap: where do I sign up?

    Look people wanted more anger (like it is going to help) he is giving them more anger. It is just a sound bite hell call it his "we gotta fight em there so we don't fight em here" moment. He is just pandering it is part of the job.
    BinFrog wrote:
    And what is the perfect course of action he should be taking and should have taken? Enlighten us.

    Yes Godfather. please enlighten us what would have made you happy what is you perfect presidential response?

    do you really think it matters ? but if you must know I would have been kickin ass on day 1....to protect my investment.... ;)

    Godfather.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    When will our government start being proactive instead of reactive?
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    I guess when Obama stated he was going to use every available resource to fight the spill he wasn't kidding. Too bad it took him almost two months to find his foot.

    I do find it interesting that Bush was figuratively nailed to a cross for Katrina (natural disaster to a city built below sea level) while Obama has been able to deflect most criticism for the gulf spill (man-made disaster influenced by both administrations). I'm sure Ed would have had a field-day on this last tour if Bush was still in office.
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  • MoonpigMoonpig Posts: 659
    Godfather. wrote:
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/07/obama-looking-ass-kick-oil-catastrophe/

    HA HA, LOOK OUT BOYS WE GOT US A NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN !

    Godfather.


    So let me see if I understand: You'd jump all over the guy if he didn't issue any statement ensuring that these idiots, in BP, take some responsibility and cough up, or that they are held to account for their actions (or lack thereof). But then take the piss out of him for acting as though he wants to get tough.

    Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I love the tag line for FOX though - fair and balanced, goodman Godfather, the irony is excellent
  • Stypo420Stypo420 Posts: 519
    Godfather. wrote:
    do you really think it matters ? but if you must know I would have been kickin ass on day 1....to protect my investment.... ;)

    Godfather.

    So do you think that would have stopped the leak? "to protect my investment" do you mean America? if so I refer back to my first question do you think kicking ass on day 1 would have stopped the leak? I also agree that it doesn't matter but you’re critical at every turn so it just seems like your hating to hate and not for an actual reason.
  • Stypo420Stypo420 Posts: 519
    And by the way, ALL productive nations, capitalist or other, drill for oil.

    "Defeat Capitalism!" Yeah. That will prevent oil spills.

    Dangerously ignorant.

    I don't completely disagree with you either. I think unregulated capitalism must go. The "free market" is a misnomer, just as a society needs laws so to does our economic system. I would go as far as to say defeating free market capitalism could improve our chances of never seeing this again.


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  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    And by the way, ALL productive nations, capitalist or other, drill for oil.

    "Defeat Capitalism!" Yeah. That will prevent oil spills.

    Dangerously ignorant.
    :lol::lol::lol:
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  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
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  • Pats54Pats54 Posts: 276
    Moonpig wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/07/obama-looking-ass-kick-oil-catastrophe/

    HA HA, LOOK OUT BOYS WE GOT US A NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN !

    Godfather.


    So let me see if I understand: You'd jump all over the guy if he didn't issue any statement ensuring that these idiots, in BP, take some responsibility and cough up, or that they are held to account for their actions (or lack thereof). But then take the piss out of him for acting as though he wants to get tough.

    Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I love the tag line for FOX though - fair and balanced, goodman Godfather, the irony is excellent

    FYI the same Tag line was used by MSNBC on Olbermen's show as well. He must have taken from O'Reilly to get his awful ratings up. :lol:
  • Pats54Pats54 Posts: 276
    Jason P wrote:
    I guess when Obama stated he was going to use every available resource to fight the spill he wasn't kidding. Too bad it took him almost two months to find his foot.

    I do find it interesting that Bush was figuratively nailed to a cross for Katrina (natural disaster to a city built below sea level) while Obama has been able to deflect most criticism for the gulf spill (man-made disaster influenced by both administrations). I'm sure Ed would have had a field-day on this last tour if Bush was still in office.

    Great point. Obama has no f'n clue when you take him out of campaign mode. It is quite comical to watch this guy. Spike Lee actually said on CNN that Obama really has a lot on his plate and should find someone to oversee this whole mess for him. Imagine him saying that if a Repub. was in the WH. I am sick and tired of people saying he was handed such a mess. All presidents have crap to deal with. Put on your big boy pants and man up.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    lgoose420 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    do you really think it matters ? but if you must know I would have been kickin ass on day 1....to protect my investment.... ;)

    Godfather.

    So do you think that would have stopped the leak? "to protect my investment" do you mean America? if so I refer back to my first question do you think kicking ass on day 1 would have stopped the leak? I also agree that it doesn't matter but you’re critical at every turn so it just seems like your hating to hate and not for an actual reason.

    not so, I honestly don't "hate" but I do think this whole thing was a accident and all the finger pointing will not fix the hole any faster,I don't think nobama has done anything wrong as far as this oil leek goes,I'm sure he's doing all he can..maybe another president would have done something different I don't know, I also think stating in a news confrence "I know who's ass to kick" was a little boo boo but to be honest with ya I got a kick out of it..kinda reminded me of Reagen and the Berlin wall thing,IMO fix the freakin leek and then kick some ass's. ;)

    Godfather.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Pats54 wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    I guess when Obama stated he was going to use every available resource to fight the spill he wasn't kidding. Too bad it took him almost two months to find his foot.

    I do find it interesting that Bush was figuratively nailed to a cross for Katrina (natural disaster to a city built below sea level) while Obama has been able to deflect most criticism for the gulf spill (man-made disaster influenced by both administrations). I'm sure Ed would have had a field-day on this last tour if Bush was still in office.

    Great point. Obama has no f'n clue when you take him out of campaign mode. It is quite comical to watch this guy. Spike Lee actually said on CNN that Obama really has a lot on his plate and should find someone to oversee this whole mess for him. Imagine him saying that if a Repub. was in the WH. I am sick and tired of people saying he was handed such a mess. All presidents have crap to deal with. Put on your big boy pants and man up.

    YESSS !!! buy this man a beer !. :lol:

    Godfather.
  • Stypo420Stypo420 Posts: 519
    Pats54 wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    I guess when Obama stated he was going to use every available resource to fight the spill he wasn't kidding. Too bad it took him almost two months to find his foot.

    I do find it interesting that Bush was figuratively nailed to a cross for Katrina (natural disaster to a city built below sea level) while Obama has been able to deflect most criticism for the gulf spill (man-made disaster influenced by both administrations). I'm sure Ed would have had a field-day on this last tour if Bush was still in office.

    Great point. Obama has no f'n clue when you take him out of campaign mode. It is quite comical to watch this guy. Spike Lee actually said on CNN that Obama really has a lot on his plate and should find someone to oversee this whole mess for him. Imagine him saying that if a Repub. was in the WH. I am sick and tired of people saying he was handed such a mess. All presidents have crap to deal with. Put on your big boy pants and man up.


    Really all presidents have crap to deal with, wow I feel enlightened. Just for arguments sake how man presidents have taken office during two wars and a recession? I really don’t think there is one though I could be wrong. Now add on top of that the mess that unabated incompetence for 8 years creates. I include the belief of faith over science, and an all encompassing view of free market economics in with unabated incompetence. Well I know that no one has ever taken over the office with all that on their plate.

    SO please do tell exactly how hasn’t he manned up?
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Jason P wrote:
    I guess when Obama stated he was going to use every available resource to fight the spill he wasn't kidding. Too bad it took him almost two months to find his foot.

    I do find it interesting that Bush was figuratively nailed to a cross for Katrina (natural disaster to a city built below sea level) while Obama has been able to deflect most criticism for the gulf spill (man-made disaster influenced by both administrations). I'm sure Ed would have had a field-day on this last tour if Bush was still in office.
    ...
    If you recall... it was the lapse in response to the after effects of Hurricane Katrina that Bush was criticised for... no one except the psycho nutcase/conspiracy theorists with the military weather creating machines stories blamed Bush for the hurricane. The Bush excuse of, "We weren't informed of the scale of the disaster"... three days after, while the rest of us had been watching 3 days of misery on our televisions was what made people angry. It wasn't the hurricane itself... it was the appearance that there wasn't a television in the White House or they didn't care... oblivious or indifferent... that was the problem.
    With the BP mess... BP initial reported it as a 'spill'. Then it stated it was a leak... like that dripping faucet in the kitchen. It wasn't til the governemnt forced BP to make the underwated video public that we... the American people... were able to SEE what we were facing. It wasn't a spill or a leak... it was a gusher. What we were being told by BP public relations was it was a leak, like your kitchen faucet, that they were working on... but it turns out... it's a fire hose of oil that's loose and out of control in your kitchen.
    ...
    Two completely different events... natural disaster, man made. One being unavoidable, the other avoidable.
    Just because they both happen in the same region, doesn't mean you can compare the two.
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Cosmo wrote:
    [Two completely different events... natural disaster, man made. One being unavoidable, the other avoidable.
    Just because they both happen in the same region, doesn't mean you can compare the two.

    that's what happens when you let partisanship dictate your thoughts ... it should be noted - he was also criticized for appointing brown as head of fema when that guy was grossly unqualified in an act of cronyism ...
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    lgoose420 wrote:
    Pats54 wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    I guess when Obama stated he was going to use every available resource to fight the spill he wasn't kidding. Too bad it took him almost two months to find his foot.

    I do find it interesting that Bush was figuratively nailed to a cross for Katrina (natural disaster to a city built below sea level) while Obama has been able to deflect most criticism for the gulf spill (man-made disaster influenced by both administrations). I'm sure Ed would have had a field-day on this last tour if Bush was still in office.

    Great point. Obama has no f'n clue when you take him out of campaign mode. It is quite comical to watch this guy. Spike Lee actually said on CNN that Obama really has a lot on his plate and should find someone to oversee this whole mess for him. Imagine him saying that if a Repub. was in the WH. I am sick and tired of people saying he was handed such a mess. All presidents have crap to deal with. Put on your big boy pants and man up.

    well he went after the job and got it knowing what he was in for right ?, also the great depression lasted ..what 10 + years ? and that was Teddy I think,how long where term limits back then,more than 8 ?
    if not did the next pres, follow in to that mess ?

    I think everybody who voted for nobama was using that for an excuse to cover up any bad calls he may have had or will make, everybody makes mistakes even presidents.

    Godfather.

    Godfather.


    Really all presidents have crap to deal with, wow I feel enlightened. Just for arguments sake how man presidents have taken office during two wars and a recession? I really don’t think there is one though I could be wrong. Now add on top of that the mess that unabated incompetence for 8 years creates. I include the belief of faith over science, and an all encompassing view of free market economics in with unabated incompetence. Well I know that no one has ever taken over the office with all that on their plate.

    SO please do tell exactly how hasn’t he manned up?
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    well he went after the job and got it knowing what he was in for right ?, also the great depression lasted ..what 10 + years ? and that was Teddy I think,how long where term limits back then,more than 8 ?
    if not did the next pres, follow in to that mess ?

    I think everybody who voted for nobama was using that for an excuse to cover up any bad calls he may have had or will make, everybody makes mistakes even presidents.

    Godfather.
  • I love lgoose420:

    "Poor Obamessiah took office in hard economic times, and with a bunch of Christians running around- in a Capitalist society no less!!!"


    Ha. Ha.

    James Carville said it: It's ok to bash Obama. He sucks. The honeymoon's over.
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    know1 wrote:
    When will our government start being proactive instead of reactive?

    has it ever been...

    it's almost impossible to govern proactively. unless something is a glaring need, the opposing party will fight it tooth and nail as wasteful spending.

    Look at airline safety... if the Bush administration had connected the dots prior to 9/11 and asked for $500 billion to completely overhaul and beef up airport security, you think the dems would have went along with it?
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