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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I wonder which end of the political see-saw I'm on? :think:


    The wrong one. ;)
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  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    Does conservative mean taking every opportunity to generalize an entire group of people and label them barbaric terrorists?

    Sorry, i shouldn't ruin the groove here on the love fest of apologies and sincerity, if it takes a whole thread of back-pedaling to make up for the ignorant dribble that's gone on then so be it i guess.
    OP must have just had a really bad day.
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  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    Mr Smith:


    3- The Patriot Act, I believe, is necessary and vital to Nat'l Security- and so did the Democrats- that's why they extended it. It really only allows for eaves dropping on calls/emails into or out of the US- and the law got a bad rap. Most of you will probably disagree w/ me on this, but its just our opinions.


    you forget it says:
    It really only allows for eaves dropping on calls/emails into or out of the US

    but the fine print says 'and we will do this by monitoring ALL your communications and thanks to companies like att&t we will have full access whenever we want'

    how is it vital and necessary?
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    Mr Smith:


    3- The Patriot Act, I believe, is necessary and vital to Nat'l Security- and so did the Democrats- that's why they extended it. It really only allows for eaves dropping on calls/emails into or out of the US- and the law got a bad rap. Most of you will probably disagree w/ me on this, but its just our opinions.


    you forget it says:
    It really only allows for eaves dropping on calls/emails into or out of the US

    but the fine print says 'and we will do this by monitoring ALL your communications and thanks to companies like att&t we will have full access whenever we want'

    how is it vital and necessary?
    If you were in another country and were planning an attack, would it be more difficult if you knew that country had resources tracking communication? Or would it be easier if you knew groups like the ACLU were defending your rights? I don't know if the Patriot Act has stopped anybody or thrown an innocent person in the slammer, but I think I can say with good certainty that just the threat of the act has impacted the communication of sleeper cells.
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  • Byrnzie wrote:
    I wonder which end of the political see-saw I'm on? :think:
    hezbollah?
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    MrSmith wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I wonder which end of the political see-saw I'm on? :think:
    hezbollah?

    The dreaded, evil, fanatical Hezbollah!! :lol:

    How dare they have the audacity to stand up against U.S and Israeli aggression! They must be terrorist evil-doers, right? :lol:

    You really need to get off the couch more.
  • Byrnzie wrote:
    MrSmith wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I wonder which end of the political see-saw I'm on? :think:
    hezbollah?

    The dreaded, evil, fanatical Hezbollah!! :lol:

    How dare they have the audacity to stand up against U.S and Israeli aggression! They must be terrorist evil-doers, right? :lol:

    You really need to get off the couch more.
    i knew that would get you going ;)
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    Byrnzie wrote:
    MrSmith wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I wonder which end of the political see-saw I'm on? :think:
    hezbollah?

    The dreaded, evil, fanatical Hezbollah!! :lol:

    How dare they have the audacity to stand up against U.S and Israeli aggression! They must be terrorist evil-doers, right? :lol:

    You really need to get off the couch more.


    So, if you think Hezbollah is so grand....why were you offended when someone compared you to them? Or are you defending their honor because they are honarable and dont deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Byrnzie? ;)

    You need to laugh more.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited June 2010
    So, if you think Hezbollah is so grand....why were you offended when someone compared you to them? Or are you defending their honor because they are honarable and dont deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Byrnzie? ;)



    I wondered when you'd chime in with your two-cents worth.

    To answer your question, I wasn't offended. I found it amusing.

    You need to laugh more.


    And you're just a never-ending ray of sunshine, right?
    Post edited by Byrnzie on
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    I think I am the only conservative PJ fan in the world.

    I think there are far more conservatives on this website than anything else. And you should take into account that being centre-right, or even liberal, in America would still make you a conservative in practically every other country on Earth.
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    i even drive on the left. 8-)
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    I'm very conservative or right leaning fiscally.

    With regard to government, I'm more libertarian.

    On the other hand, socially I hold some beliefs that are fairly far to the left.

    I know it's human nature to try and lump people into large groups, but those kinds of generalizations really do not accomplish much. Everyone is a unique individual.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    Byrnzie wrote:
    So, if you think Hezbollah is so grand....why were you offended when someone compared you to them? Or are you defending their honor because they are honarable and dont deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Byrnzie? ;)



    I wondered when you'd chime in with your two-cents worth.

    To answer your question, I wasn't offended. I found it amusing.

    You need to laugh more.


    And you're just a never-ending ray of sunshine, right?

    Yup, thanks for noticing. I even put in the ;) to show my sarcasm, it was a lighthearted comment. You don't have to be serious all the time.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    You don't have to be serious all the time.

    I'm not. Though maybe I am in your eyes, but that's o.k, because I don't really give a hoot.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    Byrnzie wrote:
    You don't have to be serious all the time.

    I'm not. Though maybe I am in your eyes, but that's o.k, because I don't really give a hoot.


    I love your internet tough guy persona. How long have you been working on it? It's nearly perfect.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Byrnzie wrote:
    You don't have to be serious all the time.

    I'm not. Though maybe I am in your eyes, but that's o.k, because I don't really give a hoot.


    I love your internet tough guy persona. How long have you been working on it? It's nearly perfect.

    Probably about as long as you've been working on being a troll who has no original thoughts but just predictably jumps in on the backs of other peoples threads with smarmy, personal attacks. Must make you feel pretty good about yourself?
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    Byrnzie wrote:
    You don't have to be serious all the time.

    I'm not. Though maybe I am in your eyes, but that's o.k, because I don't really give a hoot.


    I love your internet tough guy persona. How long have you been working on it? It's nearly perfect.

    I'm just curious how you consider saying you don't "give a hoot" to be a tough guy persona. That's a phrase my grandma uses. :lol:
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    scb wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:

    I'm not. Though maybe I am in your eyes, but that's o.k, because I don't really give a hoot.


    I love your internet tough guy persona. How long have you been working on it? It's nearly perfect.

    I'm just curious how you consider saying you don't "give a hoot" to be a tough guy persona. That's a phrase my grandma uses. :lol:


    You have one tough grandma!

    Actually it was probably not the right wording...and he missed my point anyhow, which I should expect.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    Byrnzie wrote:


    I love your internet tough guy persona. How long have you been working on it? It's nearly perfect.

    Probably about as long as you've been working on being a troll who has no original thoughts but just predictably jumps in on the backs of other peoples threads with smarmy, personal attacks. Must make you feel pretty good about yourself?

    Wow, you've been at this a long time!!!!! :o
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  • he still standshe still stands Posts: 2,835
    scb wrote:
    I love your internet tough guy persona. How long have you been working on it? It's nearly perfect.

    I'm just curious how you consider saying you don't "give a hoot" to be a tough guy persona. That's a phrase my grandma uses. :lol:


    You have one tough grandma!

    Actually it was probably not the right wording...and he missed my point anyhow, which I should expect.

    Not my argument, I just thought it was funny that you say that it was "not the right wording" and then grumble about Byrnzie "missing your point".... when you admit it was the wrong words for the message you were trying to send. Words should be used to (gasp) CONVEY meaning, unless you expect the readers to have some sort of telepathical powers. That's all...
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    scb wrote:

    I'm just curious how you consider saying you don't "give a hoot" to be a tough guy persona. That's a phrase my grandma uses. :lol:


    You have one tough grandma!

    Actually it was probably not the right wording...and he missed my point anyhow, which I should expect.

    Not my argument,


    You're right. ;)

    Though after all the name calling Byrnzie did recently, I'm betting he he won't have anything to say for a while.
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  • he still standshe still stands Posts: 2,835
    You're right. ;)

    Though after all the name calling Byrnzie did recently, I'm betting he he won't have anything to say for a while.

    After reading through the past few pages I think he's been accurate on pretty much everything...
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    You're right. ;)

    Though after all the name calling Byrnzie did recently, I'm betting he he won't have anything to say for a while.

    After reading through the past few pages I think he's been accurate on pretty much everything...

    Huh?

    Dude called someone a cock in another thread, that's what I was referring to when I said he probably won't have anything to say for a while. And after he got on my for "Smarmy, personal attacks"....go figure.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497


    You have one tough grandma!

    Actually it was probably not the right wording...and he missed my point anyhow, which I should expect.

    Not my argument, I just thought it was funny that you say that it was "not the right wording" and then grumble about Byrnzie "missing your point".... when you admit it was the wrong words for the message you were trying to send. Words should be used to (gasp) CONVEY meaning, unless you expect the readers to have some sort of telepathical powers. That's all...

    I expected him to know it was a lighthearted comment and he didn't have to get all pissed off. I meant his "I don't give a shit about anyone else's opinions" attitude...which could mean tough guy in a sense...which is why I used it, but maybe I could have been more clear.

    I'm just tired of his smarmy, personal attacks against me.
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  • MrSmith wrote:
    this is the problem with the whole left/right conservative/liberal bullshit. its nothing more than a collection of arbitrary beliefs designed to keep the two party system going. both sides pick and choose which parts of the constitution they want to keep and which rights they decide to grant us.

    the true spectrum isnt based on liberalism/conservatism but on a combination of anarchism<->totalitarianism (authority scale) and libertarianism<->collectivism (economy scale).

    most people are too lazy to really decide what their beliefs are and accept whatever they are told to think, even if some of their stances on the issues are completely contradictory to each other.

    get rid of these stupid labels!

    couldn't have said it better. I hate when people ask me "which party do you belong to?", and I say "it changes from time to time based on the issues, it has nothing to do with being affiliated with any one specific party", they call me lazy or call bullshit on me. But some of my ideals lie with one or the other party. Some are in disagreement with both (or in Canada, with "all").
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    MrSmith wrote:
    this is the problem with the whole left/right conservative/liberal bullshit. its nothing more than a collection of arbitrary beliefs designed to keep the two party system going. both sides pick and choose which parts of the constitution they want to keep and which rights they decide to grant us.

    the true spectrum isnt based on liberalism/conservatism but on a combination of anarchism<->totalitarianism (authority scale) and libertarianism<->collectivism (economy scale).

    most people are too lazy to really decide what their beliefs are and accept whatever they are told to think, even if some of their stances on the issues are completely contradictory to each other.

    get rid of these stupid labels!

    couldn't have said it better. I hate when people ask me "which party do you belong to?", and I say "it changes from time to time based on the issues, it has nothing to do with being affiliated with any one specific party", they call me lazy or call bullshit on me. But some of my ideals lie with one or the other party. Some are in disagreement with both (or in Canada, with "all").


    shut up and get in your BOX!!!!! :)
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  • mikepegg44 wrote:
    shut up and get in your BOX!!!!! :)

    :lol:
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  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    MrSmith wrote:
    this is the problem with the whole left/right conservative/liberal bullshit. its nothing more than a collection of arbitrary beliefs designed to keep the two party system going. both sides pick and choose which parts of the constitution they want to keep and which rights they decide to grant us.

    the true spectrum isnt based on liberalism/conservatism but on a combination of anarchism<->totalitarianism (authority scale) and libertarianism<->collectivism (economy scale).

    most people are too lazy to really decide what their beliefs are and accept whatever they are told to think, even if some of their stances on the issues are completely contradictory to each other.

    get rid of these stupid labels!

    couldn't have said it better. I hate when people ask me "which party do you belong to?", and I say "it changes from time to time based on the issues, it has nothing to do with being affiliated with any one specific party", they call me lazy or call bullshit on me. But some of my ideals lie with one or the other party. Some are in disagreement with both (or in Canada, with "all").
    Probably only half Canadians would even address themselves as someone on the political spectrum, since thats about how many who usually vote. :roll:
    Its usually the best of the worst, anyways.
    I hate people who think you need to "belong to a party" i think its very dangerous.
    It can be like a fan of a musician... when they can't agree that any of their songs are bad. I know a girl from school who is obsessed with the canadian conservative party. Obsessed. I
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  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758


    You have one tough grandma!

    Actually it was probably not the right wording...and he missed my point anyhow, which I should expect.

    Not my argument, I just thought it was funny that you say that it was "not the right wording" and then grumble about Byrnzie "missing your point".... when you admit it was the wrong words for the message you were trying to send. Words should be used to (gasp) CONVEY meaning, unless you expect the readers to have some sort of telepathical powers. That's all...

    I expected him to know it was a lighthearted comment and he didn't have to get all pissed off. I meant his "I don't give a shit about anyone else's opinions" attitude...which could mean tough guy in a sense...which is why I used it, but maybe I could have been more clear.

    I'm just tired of his smarmy, personal attacks against me.



    i would like to submit for the record just one page prior:


    So, if you think Hezbollah is so grand....why were you offended when someone compared you to them? Or are you defending their honor because they are honarable and dont deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Byrnzie? ;)

    You need to laugh more.
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