THIS SITE LEANS TO THE LEFT

Your Mom Made Me Pancakes

It was suggested that I start this thread.

I think I am the only conservative PJ fan in the world.

If anyone would like to engage in thoughtful debate with an open-minded conservative PJ fan, please do so.

And to any fellow PJ fans w/ whom I've quarreled on this site, I apologize, and hold no animosity toward you .

Fire away, Libs. (That's said w/ love.)

megatron

i've seen a bunch of rights on here.

i'm not smart enough to get into anything though...except detroit sports.

so adios

Your Mom Made Me Pancakes

alright.

Sorry your boy got hosed on that call.

He's perfect in my book.

arq

Your Mom Is Sleeping Over wrote:

It was suggested that I start this thread.

I think I am the only conservative PJ fan in the world.

If anyone would like to engage in thoughtful debate with an open-minded conservative PJ fan, please do so.

And to any fellow PJ fans w/ whom I've quarreled on this site, I apologize, and hold no animosity toward you .

Fire away, Libs. (That's said w/ love.)

What makes you a conservative? I've seem a wide range of people saying that they're conservative but their opinions are worlds apart.

sorry for the dumb question.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

i dont define myself as either (which btw is a bullshit standard that has hugely different meanings based on the part of the world you live in). i'm probably the most despised type of person on Earth: a moderate. basically i dont make many friends here.

_

If you asked me, I'd say this site leans to the right. There are plenty of conservatives around here - maybe you just haven't found them yet.

Your Mom Made Me Pancakes

ARC: it's a good question!

These are some conservative fundamentals:

- smaller govt.
- lower taxes
- capitalism and private/small businesses are the backbone- stop hurting them w/ higher taxes
- stong military and national defense
- less gov't interference in my personal life
- the Constitution

Basically, I want the gov't to just LEAVE ME ALONE and quit spending our money (ie: our children's future) as fast as they can. They need to live on a budget like the rest of us.

Everyday they are more involved in my life than the last.

Government exists to serve the people, but these days, its like the Gov't thinks we exist to serve them.

What do you believe in?

marcos

the entertainment industry leans to the left, stars feel better about their riches that way, does sean penn really wear glasses or is that a prop from a movie?

maj4e

Can't have a smaller gov and lower taxes AND big strong defense department... Other than that pretty good list.

blackredyellow

no shit... the site of a politically-outspoken, left leaning rockband leans to the left? You get a gold star for that observation.

No one really cares to debate you because:
a) you ignore any legitimate points made
b) everything you post is baiting crap
c) you act like a condescending little prick who really doesn't want debate, but instead wants to repeat the same insults over and over.

People like you (possibly even the same person) come through here and stir the pot for a few weeks than either get banned or get tired and move on...

There are some very intelligent right-leaning people on here, and a lot of us do lean right on some subjects. There are some people on here who post the same thing everyday and I get tired of some subjects so I stop reading them... but there are even some good points/debates made in even those tired threads.

Maybe reading some old threads instead of sticking your fingers in your ears saying "la, la, la, la, anti-american, la la la, anti- semitic, la, la, la, lib-tard, la, la, la,", you might figure this out. But you are just that much smarter than us young, uneducated people here, so I guess you don't have to.

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Your Mom Is Sleeping Over wrote:

ARC: it's a good question!

These are some conservative fundamentals:

- smaller govt.
- lower taxes
- capitalism and private/small businesses are the backbone- stop hurting them w/ higher taxes
- stong military and national defense
- less gov't interference in my personal life
- the Constitution

Basically, I want the gov't to just LEAVE ME ALONE and quit spending our money (ie: our children's future) as fast as they can. They need to live on a budget like the rest of us.

Everyday they are more involved in my life than the last.

Government exists to serve the people, but these days, its like the Gov't thinks we exist to serve them.

What do you believe in?

I don't think any single political group can claim the Consitution for their own.

he still stands

I don't think that is controversial at all, using the modern day definitions in the "western world." I'm a 19th century conservative, a 20th century pinko, and a 21st century misanthrope. I hate any sort of propaganda whether it be left or right-wing...and let's be serious it mostly is propaganda. I don't think there is much difference between either perspective though. But there sure is a whole lotta hate, tag lines, and rhetoric.

But yeah, I think there are 5 "liberals" for every single "conservative" on this board... I mean come on... Eddie has to turn away loads of conservatives...

blackredyellow

Your Mom Is Sleeping Over wrote:

ARC: it's a good question!

These are some conservative fundamentals:

- smaller govt.
- lower taxes
- capitalism and private/small businesses are the backbone- stop hurting them w/ higher taxes
- stong military and national defense
- less gov't interference in my personal life
- the Constitution

Basically, I want the gov't to just LEAVE ME ALONE and quit spending our money (ie: our children's future) as fast as they can. They need to live on a budget like the rest of us.

Everyday they are more involved in my life than the last.

Government exists to serve the people, but these days, its like the Gov't thinks we exist to serve them.

What do you believe in?

just curious, how do you feel about same sex marriage?

Your Mom Made Me Pancakes

maj4e: I think we can. During WWII we had a much smaller Fed, stong Nat'l defense, and lower taxes.

Its all these entitlements, free programs, etc. Food Stamps and welfare expenditures are at an all time high, while private sector jobs are at an all time low.

Under this President our national debt is growing at a rate of $5 Billion a day!

There is more than enough money to go around, its just not being spent wisely.

Just my opinion.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

Your Mom Is Sleeping Over wrote:

ARC: it's a good question!

These are some conservative fundamentals:


- less gov't interference in my personal life

so i take it you are pro-choice, pro gay marriage and against the patriot act? or is it only interference when its something you believe in or affects you personally?

arthurdent

reality has a liberal bias

mikepegg44

Your Mom Is Sleeping Over wrote:

It was suggested that I start this thread.

I think I am the only conservative PJ fan in the world.

If anyone would like to engage in thoughtful debate with an open-minded conservative PJ fan, please do so.

And to any fellow PJ fans w/ whom I've quarreled on this site, I apologize, and hold no animosity toward you .

Fire away, Libs. (That's said w/ love.)

Re: Screwed Up Education System
by Your Mom Is Sleeping Over » 07 Jun 2010 10:42

"Collectively, you are all the posterchildren for what's wrong with America's education system."

could be that statements like this don't make a whole lot of friends whether they agree with you or not. The four (or so) threads you started with stories of Muslim father's killing their kids is a good way to rub people on all sides the wrong way simply because it seems like you are not out to prove a point but more to antagonize.

That is the impression I got from you. The threads are filled with all kinds of people, just sit back and have a discussion with most and you will realize that. People like Scb and a few others are actually really fun to have conversations with simply because they are strong in their beliefs but sincerely read posts and try to have a civil conversation with you while being respectful.

Go back and look at the AZ law threads. Those were filled with all kinds.

Your Mom Made Me Pancakes

Black, Red, yellow:

good question. I believe it is a State issue, and the FEDERAL gov't shouldn't be telling me what to do in MY bedroom, with MY body.

If someone doesn't like Same-Sex Marriage, then they can move to a state that has outlawed it. If you are for it, then there are states where like-minded Americans have chosen to live and govern themselves in that way- and you are free to live there uninhibited.

Marijuana, Abortion, Same Sex Marriage, etc... These are all state issues to me. Let the people vote, and live the way they want to.

Stay out big Govt!!!

vomikus39

This is a PJ site so I would think many opinions and ideas on here are left leaning, I would agree with BlackRedYellow on that, makes sense. It would be easier to be left or right, but on some issues I am left and on others I roll right. I'm diverse, and we all should be. You limit yourself when you say I am strictly liberal on all subjects, or strictly conservative on all subjects. Extreme liberals like Obama no matter what, and although I voted for him, I am not too thrilled with his presidency so far. Extreme rightists blame environmentalist for the Gulf oil spill, get real!! Every issue is different for me, and it should be that way for everyone.

Your Mom Made Me Pancakes

mikepegg:

Fair enough. I have YIELDED.

I was outnumbered and on the defensive when I wrote that. I also got banned over the weekend for getting too personal last week.

I reiterate to you, my sincerest regrets for any offense I may have caused you, and look forward to an open-minded debate in the future.

Just not that many conservatives on here...

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

its pretty circular. if you go far off in one extreme, you come back around on the other. the differences between libertarians (right) and green party types (left) probably isnt as different as people make them out to be.