Girl Buried Alive for Talking to Boys

edited June 2010 in A Moving Train
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-dao ... 50959.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... -boys.html


This happened in Turkey a couple months ago. The 16 yr old girl was buried by her family b/c she talked to a boy!!

Why are Jews vilified on this site by young people in my generation, while in Muslim countries these kind of atrocities toward women occur daily, and are NEVER mentioned? These people are barbaric!!!

Where's the ladies on this?
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  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    JB210892 wrote:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-daou/male-monsters---girl-buri_b_450959.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... -boys.html


    This happened in Turkey a couple months ago. The 16 yr old girl was buried by her family b/c she talked to a boy!!

    Why are Jews vilified on this site by young people in my generation, while in Muslim countries these kind of atrocities toward women occur daily, and are NEVER mentioned? These people are barbaric!!!

    Where's the ladies on this?
    I could probably name you a handful of Christians who murdered or abused women but I'm not going to generalize them all as being barbaric...
    edit: or any other religion for that matter.
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  • No, I don't mind.

    Please, name the Christian family, that in 2010, believed that God was cool with them burying their children alive.

    For talking to other children...
  • arqarq Posts: 8,049
    No matter what religion, christian, muslin, jew, every single one is crazy in it's own way, but people doesn't need religion to act crazy, religion is just one more excuse to act crazy believing in the approval of their own space ghost :?
    "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it"
    Neil deGrasse Tyson

    Why not (V) (°,,,,°) (V) ?
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    No, I don't mind.

    Please, name the Christian family, that in 2010, believed that God was cool with them burying their children alive.

    For talking to other children...


    didn't some lady drown her kids a few years ago saying god told her to do it because they were suffering?
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    No, I don't mind.

    Please, name the Christian family, that in 2010, believed that God was cool with them burying their children alive.

    For talking to other children...
    Well, i wasn't being specific with buried alive.
    Although there was that woman who bludgeoned her children a few years ago in the name of God.

    All besides the point, which was that you cannot generalize an entire group of people for what some radical idiotic people do - which is what you've done in 3 threads already.
    Anyways, the case i was thinking of was Phillip Garrido... the man who kidnapped and raped (and fathered 2 children with) Jaycee Dugard.

    Women's rights is a serious issue and it extends through ALL walks of beliefs and religions, not just the "barbaric" muslims. There's no need to be ignorant and believe that muslim people are the only ones who commit atrocious acts.
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  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    I also don't get why you felt the need to change your name, especially to something as immature as that.. looks like you really support the sanctity of women with a "your mom" joke as your name. :roll:
    live pearl jam is best pearl jam
  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    haffajappa wrote:
    I also don't get why you felt the need to change your name, especially to something as immature as that.. looks like you really support the sanctity of women with a "your mom" joke as your name. :roll:

    She has a point ...
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    No, I don't mind.

    Please, name the Christian family, that in 2010, believed that God was cool with them burying their children alive.

    For talking to other children...


    dose this count....

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/04/03/children.slain/
    Laney admitted bashing her three children in the heads with rocks. She said God told her to do so.

    or

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Yates#cite_note-21
    While in prison, Andrea stated she had considered killing the children for two years, adding that they thought she was not a good mother and claimed her sons were developing improperly. Yates told her jail psychiatrist, "It was the seventh deadly sin. My children weren't righteous. They stumbled because I was evil. The way I was raising them, they could never be saved. They were doomed to perish in the fires of hell."[22]
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    Or what about polygamists that tell children when they are 12 years old that they can only get to heaven if they marry a man who has 6 other wives?
    live pearl jam is best pearl jam
  • I changed my name b/c JB210892 seemed so impersonal.

    My posts are all still there.

    The Christians you sited for killing kids were all charged and convicted of the killings. They were denounced by their churches, and in most cases either crazy, or suffering from post-pardum depression.

    Either way, they were denounced, and jailed.

    NOT SO w/ the Muslims. Those people are still going to Mosque, and living normal lives. ]

    Islam condones Murder.

    Read a book little children.

    PS: Yo momma IS staying for breakfast!!
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    This is what happens when un-democratic governments and religions are in bed together for generations and generations...
    My whole life
    was like a picture
    of a sunny day
    “We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
    ― Abraham Lincoln
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    This is what happens when un-democratic governments and religions are in bed together for generations and generations...
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • he still standshe still stands Posts: 2,835
    “If it is committed in the name of God or country, there is no crime so heinous that the public will not forgive it.” - Tom Robbins

    Lets stop putting one religion against another denouncing one another as "barbaric."

    They are all dangerous. Patriotism is dangerous, too, and should be thrown in the trash heap with religion.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • Might as well throw liberty on that pile of religion, patriotism, and books- then light your communist fire.
  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    If your point is that there is a bias in terms of whose atrocities get mentioned on this board, then yes, I agree with you. I also agree that a thread about honor killings or girls getting buried alive might get a few responses but no real debate, because I don't think many people on here agree with honor killings and the like, or if anyone does, they likely won't admit to it publically.
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    I changed my name b/c JB210892 seemed so impersonal.

    My posts are all still there.

    The Christians you sited for killing kids were all charged and convicted of the killings. They were denounced by their churches, and in most cases either crazy, or suffering from post-pardum depression.

    Either way, they were denounced, and jailed.

    NOT SO w/ the Muslims. Those people are still going to Mosque, and living normal lives. ]

    Islam condones Murder.

    Read a book little children.

    PS: Yo momma IS staying for breakfast!!



    ummmmm....did you even bother to read the articles you posted????


    does this look like he's leading a normal life free with muslims accepting him and his action??


    article-1248676-0828449E000005DC-394_468x430.jpg


    also, from your article:

    Medine Meme's father and grandfather have now been arrested and jailed awaiting trial. The girl's mother was arrested, but later released.

    he case has caused outrage in Turkey and reopened the debate over so-called honour killings which are particularly prevalent in the predominantly Kurdish south-east of the country.

    One commentator wrote on the website of a religious TV station: 'The punishment for whosoever should kill with intent is the hell where he will languish forever. Allah has cursed him and prepared great pain for him
    'You named your daughter after the holy city of Medina but your mind is left over from the earlier Age of Ignorance.'



    i'm glad my mom's coming over, maybe she can teach you not to make shit up
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • well i for one think she got what she had coming! its about time those of us who agree stand up for this kind of thing!

    sorry, i'm just trying to think of some reason to post here.
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    I changed my name b/c JB210892 seemed so impersonal.

    My posts are all still there.

    The Christians you sited for killing kids were all charged and convicted of the killings. They were denounced by their churches, and in most cases either crazy, or suffering from post-pardum depression.

    Either way, they were denounced, and jailed.

    NOT SO w/ the Muslims. Those people are still going to Mosque, and living normal lives. ]

    Islam condones Murder.

    Read a book little children.



    PS: Yo momma IS staying for breakfast!!



    ummmmm....did you even bother to read the articles you posted????


    does this look like he's leading a normal life free with muslims accepting him and his action??


    article-1248676-0828449E000005DC-394_468x430.jpg


    also, from your article:

    Medine Meme's father and grandfather have now been arrested and jailed awaiting trial. The girl's mother was arrested, but later released.

    he case has caused outrage in Turkey and reopened the debate over so-called honour killings which are particularly prevalent in the predominantly Kurdish south-east of the country.

    One commentator wrote on the website of a religious TV station: 'The punishment for whosoever should kill with intent is the hell where he will languish forever. Allah has cursed him and prepared great pain for him
    'You named your daughter after the holy city of Medina but your mind is left over from the earlier Age of Ignorance.'



    i'm glad my mom's coming over, maybe she can teach you not to make shit up

    Owned.
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    If there really was a god.. and this god demanded I bury my own child. I would lift my middle finger to this god and tell him to damn me to hell.

    What the fuck is wrong with people? What a selfish act.
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    post-pardum depression.

    post-parTum
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    I changed my name b/c JB210892 seemed so impersonal.

    My posts are all still there.

    The Christians you sited for killing kids were all charged and convicted of the killings. They were denounced by their churches, and in most cases either crazy, or suffering from post-pardum depression.

    Either way, they were denounced, and jailed.

    NOT SO w/ the Muslims. Those people are still going to Mosque, and living normal lives. ]

    Islam condones Murder.

    Read a book little children.

    PS: Yo momma IS staying for breakfast!!



    ummmmm....did you even bother to read the articles you posted????


    does this look like he's leading a normal life free with muslims accepting him and his action??


    article-1248676-0828449E000005DC-394_468x430.jpg


    also, from your article:

    Medine Meme's father and grandfather have now been arrested and jailed awaiting trial. The girl's mother was arrested, but later released.

    he case has caused outrage in Turkey and reopened the debate over so-called honour killings which are particularly prevalent in the predominantly Kurdish south-east of the country.

    One commentator wrote on the website of a religious TV station: 'The punishment for whosoever should kill with intent is the hell where he will languish forever. Allah has cursed him and prepared great pain for him
    'You named your daughter after the holy city of Medina but your mind is left over from the earlier Age of Ignorance.'



    i'm glad my mom's coming over, maybe she can teach you not to make shit up
    you beat me to it.
    live pearl jam is best pearl jam
  • OutOfBreathOutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    OP, are you even aware that Turkey is a pretty fiercely secular state, where the army may well intervene if overtly religious people get too much power in politics and have done so in the past? They have laws in place denying show of religious garments in various public places and so on. Since you seem to have it in for Turkey in particular, read up on this, you might learn something: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey#Gov ... d_politics

    Just because they are mostly muslims, doesn't mean they're as ass-backwards as Afghanistan or tribal Pakistan. (Not that they're "barbaric" either for the most part, but they have a heavier stricter sort of religious practice)

    I am put in mind of a Norwegian rock band who has a song called "Isn't it nice to have someone to hate" (translated)

    Peace
    Dan
    "YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death

    "Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    “If it is committed in the name of God or country, there is no crime so heinous that the public will not forgive it.” - Tom Robbins

    Lets stop putting one religion against another denouncing one another as "barbaric."

    They are all dangerous. Patriotism is dangerous, too, and should be thrown in the trash heap with religion.
    I didn't mean to denounce Christianity as barbaric... my point was that you shouldn't generalize an entire religion as barbaric.

    Basically everything you said. :lol:
    live pearl jam is best pearl jam
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255

    Islam condones Murder.

    Yo MOM, you're a moron. I'm telling you as a Muslim (me), it is against real Islam to kill ANYONE. In true Islam, if you kill 1 human, god will punish you as if you killed ALL of humanity. It's in the real Quran book. Not fox, CNN, msnbc... Out of curiousity, what does it say in the torah? What does it say about keeping 1.5 million Palestinians under seize and prison? Enjoy your breakfest and please let us all know when you're done with your wheaties.........
  • BADBRAINS:

    I've had my Wheaties, and I'm ready to go. Thanks for calling me a moron.

    Do you live in a cave? You must, if you think reasonable peace-loving people of all Western nations don't associate Islam with radical violence and death.

    You said, "Real Islam. True Islam." What is that, and who, in your faith is deciding what "Real or True Islam" really is?

    The Imam's issue fatwah's calling for the "stoning of women", calling for the outright murder of Jews and Christians. There is no higher honor in Islam than to become a Martyr- to kill yourself in the act of killing others (define it how you will, murder is the oft-chosen path to "achieve" martyrdom). Are you one of these Muslims? Do you condone this ideology? Is that "True Islam"?

    I am not generalizing ALL Muslims b/c of the radical elements of your faith- but you start w/ "Oh, we're a religion of peace, and No Muslim should ever kill anyone, blah, blah, love and peace..." How can you be taken seriously?

    Who can forget the videos of Muslims celebrating all over the world on 9/11?
    Celebrating the murder of women and children. Are you among these Muslims? Was that representative of "True Islam"?

    Who are these Muslims that we hear from every day, over and over, calling for the murder of innocents?
    Are you one of these Muslims?

    If you don't know how, or why, or who, or what the hell I'm talking about, then I submit that you probably are in a cave, and martyrdom is closer than you think.

    BUT- if you are not, and you really do adhere to the TRUE tenets, the 5 Pillars, and are a person of peace and faith, then BE A VOICE for Islam- a voice that CONDEMNS these radical ideologists that have hijacked your peaceful faith.

    The world need to hear from those that, like you say, practice "True Islam".

    But why is it so quiet?

    COEXIST.
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    BADBRAINS:

    I've had my Wheaties, and I'm ready to go. Thanks for calling me a moron.

    Do you live in a cave? You must, if you think reasonable peace-loving people of all Western nations don't associate Islam with radical violence and death.

    You said, "Real Islam. True Islam." What is that, and who, in your faith is deciding what "Real or True Islam" really is?

    The Imam's issue fatwah's calling for the "stoning of women", calling for the outright murder of Jews and Christians. There is no higher honor in Islam than to become a Martyr- to kill yourself in the act of killing others (define it how you will, murder is the oft-chosen path to "achieve" martyrdom). Are you one of these Muslims? Do you condone this ideology? Is that "True Islam"?

    I am not generalizing ALL Muslims b/c of the radical elements of your faith- but you start w/ "Oh, we're a religion of peace, and No Muslim should ever kill anyone, blah, blah, love and peace..." How can you be taken seriously?

    Who can forget the videos of Muslims celebrating all over the world on 9/11?
    Celebrating the murder of women and children. Are you among these Muslims? Was that representative of "True Islam"?

    Who are these Muslims that we hear from every day, over and over, calling for the murder of innocents?
    Are you one of these Muslims?

    If you don't know how, or why, or who, or what the hell I'm talking about, then I submit that you probably are in a cave, and martyrdom is closer than you think.

    BUT- if you are not, and you really do adhere to the TRUE tenets, the 5 Pillars, and are a person of peace and faith, then BE A VOICE for Islam- a voice that CONDEMNS these radical ideologists that have hijacked your peaceful faith.

    The world need to hear from those that, like you say, practice "True Islam".

    But why is it so quiet?

    COEXIST.
    I'm not sure if your ignorance is funny or exhausting.
    live pearl jam is best pearl jam
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    anti-japanese-propaganda-poste-+hate.jpg
    live pearl jam is best pearl jam
  • MoonpigMoonpig Posts: 659
    BADBRAINS:

    I've had my Wheaties, and I'm ready to go. Thanks for calling me a moron.

    Do you live in a cave? You must, if you think reasonable peace-loving people of all Western nations don't associate Islam with radical violence and death.

    You said, "Real Islam. True Islam." What is that, and who, in your faith is deciding what "Real or True Islam" really is?

    The Imam's issue fatwah's calling for the "stoning of women", calling for the outright murder of Jews and Christians. There is no higher honor in Islam than to become a Martyr- to kill yourself in the act of killing others (define it how you will, murder is the oft-chosen path to "achieve" martyrdom). Are you one of these Muslims? Do you condone this ideology? Is that "True Islam"?

    I am not generalizing ALL Muslims b/c of the radical elements of your faith- but you start w/ "Oh, we're a religion of peace, and No Muslim should ever kill anyone, blah, blah, love and peace..." How can you be taken seriously?

    Who can forget the videos of Muslims celebrating all over the world on 9/11?
    Celebrating the murder of women and children. Are you among these Muslims? Was that representative of "True Islam"?

    Who are these Muslims that we hear from every day, over and over, calling for the murder of innocents?
    Are you one of these Muslims?

    If you don't know how, or why, or who, or what the hell I'm talking about, then I submit that you probably are in a cave, and martyrdom is closer than you think.

    BUT- if you are not, and you really do adhere to the TRUE tenets, the 5 Pillars, and are a person of peace and faith, then BE A VOICE for Islam- a voice that CONDEMNS these radical ideologists that have hijacked your peaceful faith.

    The world need to hear from those that, like you say, practice "True Islam".

    But why is it so quiet?

    COEXIST.

    But you see, that's the point. The world does hear from moderate Muslims, all the time. Remember, just because you don't hear them doesn't mean they do not exist.

    And with respect, you are reffering to fundamentalists who happen to be Muslims, you're own country is recognised the world over for having a large population of fundamentalist Christians.

    This whole religion thing gets played out way too much in the media, and unfortunatly, opinions like this seem to be the end result. It is much easier for FOX and the rest of the news networks to refer to Muslim terrorists rather than actually report why these people are so disenfrancished (i suppose that doesn't fit into the 30 second blurb). It's when the viewer takes no responsibility for their own further learning on the subject that leads to these sweeping and dangerous generalities.

    Take my own countries history for example: I lived in Canada for years and the only media coverage on the tele about the Troubles in Ireland was about Catholics vs Protestants, which missed the whole point of that mess to begin with.

    Read up on what is going on, understand it, then pick a side, come on here and debate away, but atleast then you stand over the point. Otherwise you come across as a little bigotted, uninformed etc...
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    Moonpig wrote:
    BADBRAINS:

    I've had my Wheaties, and I'm ready to go. Thanks for calling me a moron.

    Do you live in a cave? You must, if you think reasonable peace-loving people of all Western nations don't associate Islam with radical violence and death.

    You said, "Real Islam. True Islam." What is that, and who, in your faith is deciding what "Real or True Islam" really is?

    The Imam's issue fatwah's calling for the "stoning of women", calling for the outright murder of Jews and Christians. There is no higher honor in Islam than to become a Martyr- to kill yourself in the act of killing others (define it how you will, murder is the oft-chosen path to "achieve" martyrdom). Are you one of these Muslims? Do you condone this ideology? Is that "True Islam"?

    I am not generalizing ALL Muslims b/c of the radical elements of your faith- but you start w/ "Oh, we're a religion of peace, and No Muslim should ever kill anyone, blah, blah, love and peace..." How can you be taken seriously?

    Who can forget the videos of Muslims celebrating all over the world on 9/11?
    Celebrating the murder of women and children. Are you among these Muslims? Was that representative of "True Islam"?

    Who are these Muslims that we hear from every day, over and over, calling for the murder of innocents?
    Are you one of these Muslims?

    If you don't know how, or why, or who, or what the hell I'm talking about, then I submit that you probably are in a cave, and martyrdom is closer than you think.

    BUT- if you are not, and you really do adhere to the TRUE tenets, the 5 Pillars, and are a person of peace and faith, then BE A VOICE for Islam- a voice that CONDEMNS these radical ideologists that have hijacked your peaceful faith.

    The world need to hear from those that, like you say, practice "True Islam".

    But why is it so quiet?

    COEXIST.

    But you see, that's the point. The world does hear from moderate Muslims, all the time. Remember, just because you don't hear them doesn't mean they do not exist.

    And with respect, you are reffering to fundamentalists who happen to be Muslims, you're own country is recognised the world over for having a large population of fundamentalist Christians.

    This whole religion thing gets played out way too much in the media, and unfortunatly, opinions like this seem to be the end result. It is much easier for FOX and the rest of the news networks to refer to Muslim terrorists rather than actually report why these people are so disenfrancished (i suppose that doesn't fit into the 30 second blurb). It's when the viewer takes no responsibility for their own further learning on the subject that leads to these sweeping and dangerous generalities.

    Take my own countries history for example: I lived in Canada for years and the only media coverage on the tele about the Troubles in Ireland was about Catholics vs Protestants, which missed the whole point of that mess to begin with.

    Read up on what is going on, understand it, then pick a side, come on here and debate away, but atleast then you stand over the point. Otherwise you come across as a little bigotted, uninformed etc...
    Another liberal, biased lefty because you don't agree with the OP's ignorant generalizations.
    join the club :roll:

    basically its like rolling footage of the Westboro Baptist Church and saying all Christians are like that.

    ps - so true about the problems in Northern Ireland, I always thought it was that black and white but actually read up on it and there was so much more to it :oops:
    live pearl jam is best pearl jam
  • arqarq Posts: 8,049
    Moonpig wrote:
    But you see, that's the point. The world does hear from moderate Muslims, all the time. Remember, just because you don't hear them doesn't mean they do not exist.

    I know you're right, BUT if they don't speak up they will be consider part of fundamentalist, like a crime from omission, those who stand by the side without doing something are just as part of the problem as the fundamentalist.
    "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it"
    Neil deGrasse Tyson

    Why not (V) (°,,,,°) (V) ?
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