Mosque at Ground Zero

TriumphantAngel

Your Mom Is Sleeping Over wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/06/new.york.ground.zero.mosque/index.html?section=cnn_latest

They wanna put a Mosque at Ground Zero.

Why not? We already put a Muslim in the White House.

whenever this gets raised, the implication is that there is something wrong with being an Arab-American or a Muslim. the ignorance that is displayed is just sad and ridiculous.

obviously he's not a Muslim, but honestly why does it even matter? Is there something wrong with being a Muslim in this Country?

Pepe Silvia

cajunkiwi wrote:

Maybe Oklahoma City should be devoid of churches.

Open

Cause no Muslims died on 9/11? This kind of garbage just becomes a recruiting tool for the radicals. Radicals feeding radicals, imagine that.

badbrains

First off, this is some funny shit bro....wow, and I thought I was out there...

Why not? We already put a Muslim in the White House.[/quote]

badbrains

scb wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

has anybody studied the koran (spelling ?) or muslim bible ? I have not but keep hearing stories about Americans being the bad people of this world , anybody know anything about it ?

Godfather.

I don't understand your question. Are you asking whether the Koran says Americans are bad people? Because I'm pretty sure it was written long before the United States existed.

BINGO we have a winner. As a Muslim I will tell you to please do yourself a favor and turn OFF your tv. Your mind is being played with. It does NOT mention America in the Quran. What your brains are being filled with is not REAL Islam. I dnt blame Americans for there views on Islam, shit, I'd prob have the same views if I was a sheep. Learn for yourself, dnt listen to what peoples opinions are in a matter. Think for yourself, read between the lines, i think I got most of it.....thanks Maynard...

TriumphantAngel

Open wrote:

Cause no Muslims died on 9/11?

exactly. heartbreaking for everyone involved.

Thousands of innocent lives were lost on September 11, 2001, and our hearts and prayers go out to their families and loved ones. For several hundred of the victims of 9/11, grief and sorrow has been compounded by constant suspicion, bias, hatred, and attacks on the faith they hold dear.

Imagine being the family of Salman Hamdani. The 23-year-old New York City police cadet was a part-time ambulance driver, incoming medical student, and devout Muslim. When he disappeared on September 11, law enforcement officials came to his family, seeking him for questioning in relation to the terrorist attacks. They allegedly believed he was somehow involved. His whereabouts were undetermined for over six months, until his remains were finally identified. He was found near the North Tower, with his EMT medical bag beside him, presumably doing everything he could to help those in need. His family could finally rest, knowing that he died the hero they always knew him to be.

Or imagine being Baraheen Ashrafi, nine months pregnant with her second child. Her husband, Mohammad Chowdhury, was a waiter at Windows of the World restaurant, on the top floors of Tower One. The morning of September 11, they prayed salaat-l-fajr (the pre-dawn prayer) together, and he went off to work. She never saw him again. Their son, Farqad, was born 48 hours after the attacks -- one of the first 9/11 orphans to be born. In an interview with CTV Canada, she relates that in the months to follow, she mourned for her husband and endured the hostility of some ignorant people around her. "When they saw me ... I'm wearing a scarf. There is a hate look."

Or consider Rahma Salie, a passenger on American Airlines #11 that crashed into the North Tower. Rahma, a Muslim of Sri Lankan origin, was traveling with her husband Michael (a convert to Islam) to attend a friend's wedding in California. Rahma was 7 months pregnant with their first child. According to the Independent UK (October 11, 2001), Rahma's name was initially put on an FBI watch list, because her "Muslim-sounding" name was on the passenger manifest, and her travel patterns were similar to those of the hijackers (she was a computer consultant living in Boston). Although her name was eventually removed from the list, several of her family members were barred from taking flights to her memorial service. Her mother, Haleema, said, "I would like everyone to know that she was a Muslim, she is a Muslim and we are victims too, of this tragic incident.”

rebornFixer

TriumphantAngel wrote:

Imagine being the family of Salman Hamdani. The 23-year-old New York City police cadet was a part-time ambulance driver, incoming medical student, and devout Muslim. When he disappeared on September 11, law enforcement officials came to his family, seeking him for questioning in relation to the terrorist attacks. They allegedly believed he was somehow involved. His whereabouts were undetermined for over six months, until his remains were finally identified. He was found near the North Tower, with his EMT medical bag beside him, presumably doing everything he could to help those in need. His family could finally rest, knowing that he died the hero they always knew him to be.

Or imagine being Baraheen Ashrafi, nine months pregnant with her second child. Her husband, Mohammad Chowdhury, was a waiter at Windows of the World restaurant, on the top floors of Tower One. The morning of September 11, they prayed salaat-l-fajr (the pre-dawn prayer) together, and he went off to work. She never saw him again. Their son, Farqad, was born 48 hours after the attacks -- one of the first 9/11 orphans to be born. In an interview with CTV Canada, she relates that in the months to follow, she mourned for her husband and endured the hostility of some ignorant people around her. "When they saw me ... I'm wearing a scarf. There is a hate look."

Or consider Rahma Salie, a passenger on American Airlines #11 that crashed into the North Tower. Rahma, a Muslim of Sri Lankan origin, was traveling with her husband Michael (a convert to Islam) to attend a friend's wedding in California. Rahma was 7 months pregnant with their first child. According to the Independent UK (October 11, 2001), Rahma's name was initially put on an FBI watch list, because her "Muslim-sounding" name was on the passenger manifest, and her travel patterns were similar to those of the hijackers (she was a computer consultant living in Boston). Although her name was eventually removed from the list, several of her family members were barred from taking flights to her memorial service. Her mother, Haleema, said, "I would like everyone to know that she was a Muslim, she is a Muslim and we are victims too, of this tragic incident.”
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Moving stuff ... Thanks for sharing these.

Godfather.

scb wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

has anybody studied the koran (spelling ?) or muslim bible ? I have not but keep hearing stories about Americans being the bad people of this world , anybody know anything about it ?

Godfather.

I don't understand your question. Are you asking whether the Koran says Americans are bad people? Because I'm pretty sure it was written long before the United States existed.

don't know thats why I asked, there seems to be a lot of stuff flying around about the muslim book or koran what ever it's called and most of what I have heard is bad so I was curious if anybody on here has any info or knowledge of this stuff...not trying to start up a shit storm.

Godfather.

Godfather.

badbrains wrote:

scb wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

has anybody studied the koran (spelling ?) or muslim bible ? I have not but keep hearing stories about Americans being the bad people of this world , anybody know anything about it ?

Godfather.

I don't understand your question. Are you asking whether the Koran says Americans are bad people? Because I'm pretty sure it was written long before the United States existed.

BINGO we have a winner. As a Muslim I will tell you to please do yourself a favor and turn OFF your tv. Your mind is being played with. It does NOT mention America in the Quran. What your brains are being filled with is not REAL Islam. I dnt blame Americans for there views on Islam, shit, I'd prob have the same views if I was a sheep. Learn for yourself, dnt listen to what peoples opinions are in a matter. Think for yourself, read between the lines, i think I got most of it.....thanks Maynard...

cool that's what I was looking for ! how do people go about finding this info ?

Godfather.

catefrances

what i love about all religions is their condemnation of atheists. it makes me smile.. and some days makes me feel kinda special.

Your Mom Made Me Pancakes

What I love about atheists is that they think "religious people" condemn them.

You have to remember, if we believe in God, then we believe HE is the one condemning atheists.

God makes the rules, not us.

Unless you're in Congress, then you can do wtf you want.

OutOfBreath

Your Mom Is Sleeping Over wrote:

What I love about atheists is that they think "religious people" condemn them.

You have to remember, if we believe in God, then we believe HE is the one condemning atheists.

God makes the rules, not us.

Unless you're in Congress, then you can do wtf you want.

Oh but God usually doesn't say much, which leaves it up to various extremist whackjobs to do the job for him. These are usually in plentiful supply...

Peace
Dan

catefrances

Your Mom Is Sleeping Over wrote:

What I love about atheists is that they think "religious people" condemn them.

You have to remember, if we believe in God, then we believe HE is the one condemning atheists.

God makes the rules, not us.

Unless you're in Congress, then you can do wtf you want.

if you care to doublecheck i do believe i wrote all RELIGIONS. i said nothing about those who practice religion.

vomikus39

Your Mom Is Sleeping Over wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/06/new.york.ground.zero.mosque/index.html?section=cnn_latest

They wanna put a Mosque at Ground Zero.

Why not? We already put a Muslim in the White House.

LOL, thats the first post I have ever seen that actually made me laugh out loud, funny stuff

vomikus39

I live in NYC and from what I have been hearing and reading is that many people are concerned about who the person is running the Mosque. Apparently there seems to be a feeling of terrorist ties and funding. I don't know the whole story, and of course do not take the newspaper literally, especially the New York Post, but thought I'd share that info.

vomikus39

What if some Fundamentalist Christians were responsible for 911....would you be against having a church at ground zero?[/quote]


great point!!

badbrains

vomikus39 wrote:

I live in NYC and from what I have been hearing and reading is that many people are concerned about who the person is running the Mosque. Apparently there seems to be a feeling of terrorist ties and funding. I don't know the whole story, and of course do not take the newspaper literally, especially the New York Post, but thought I'd share that info.

Read between the lines my friend. Anyone can say anyones connected to terrorists. Shit, the other day someone on here was talking about HIV bombs he read in the sun paper. HIV bombs? Really? Thank god they're was enough people here who already know how to read between the lines.

haffajappa

badbrains wrote:

vomikus39 wrote:

I live in NYC and from what I have been hearing and reading is that many people are concerned about who the person is running the Mosque. Apparently there seems to be a feeling of terrorist ties and funding. I don't know the whole story, and of course do not take the newspaper literally, especially the New York Post, but thought I'd share that info.

Read between the lines my friend. Anyone can say anyones connected to terrorists. Shit, the other day someone on here was talking about HIV bombs he read in the sun paper. HIV bombs? Really? Thank god they're was enough people here who already know how to read between the lines.

Yeah... that someone was the OP...
a lot of his other threads -like the HIV one- have been locked
...things ahve been a lot more quiet and less hostile around here

badbrains

Ya, we should be talking about reality not sci-fi fiction. I hate when people put lies on here and stir shit up. Like the whole Obama is a Muslim? Really? Wow, that's how low people stoop to to make people look bad. I'm no Obama fan either but come on. Problem is people will believe that shit and then go to work, tell to co-workers at water cooler and the bullshit starts to spread like a virus.

TriumphantAngel

vomikus39 wrote:

I live in NYC and from what I have been hearing and reading is that many people are concerned about who the person is running the Mosque. Apparently there seems to be a feeling of terrorist ties and funding. I don't know the whole story, and of course do not take the newspaper literally, especially the New York Post, but thought I'd share that info.

and this is exactly the point i was trying to make the other day when i posted the information from the FBI site, to which no one other than Byrnzie and Pepe commented on.

it is not acceptable to me that someone can just make all sorts of accusations based on 'feelings' when they do not have evidence of what they are talking about. why even say that? why repeat it? that's so wrong on every level.

facts are are different story. provide proof of terrorist ties and funding and then we can have a discussion.