Mosque at Ground Zero

Your Mom Made Me Pancakes
Your Mom Made Me Pancakes Posts: 169
edited June 2010 in A Moving Train
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/06/new.yo ... cnn_latest

They wanna put a Mosque at Ground Zero.

Why not? We already put a Muslim in the White House.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    :lol::lol::lol: now thats funny.

    Godfather.
  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    would a mosque by ground zero or a muslim in the white house be the end of the world? not that i think he's a muslim
    don't compete; coexist

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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Pepe Silvia wrote:
    would a mosque by ground zero or a muslim in the white house be the end of the world? not that i think he's a muslim

    to some sadly, it would be...

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  • maj4e
    maj4e Posts: 605
    Where's my don't feed the trolls sign?
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    A discussion on this subject ended badly last time . . .
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  • Your Mom Made Me Pancakes
    Your Mom Made Me Pancakes Posts: 169
    Don't you mean your "Don't talk to people with opposing viewpoints" sign?

    I believe B.O. is a Muslim, and I acknowledge that it would hard to prove he is or isn't- and that at this point it is irrelevant.

    However, the post is regarding 9/11 Ground Zero site- which is considered a burial site b/c of the people that died there, and the fact that many remains were unrecoverable there.

    I submit that anyone who cannot, at the least, understand why that might be offensive to families of murdered Americans is not discussing the subject open-mindedly.

    Not a troll, just diferent than you. Where's your compassionate inclusiveness?
  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    JB210892 wrote:
    Don't you mean your "Don't talk to people with opposing viewpoints" sign?

    I believe B.O. is a Muslim, and I acknowledge that it would hard to prove he is or isn't- and that at this point it is irrelevant.

    However, the post is regarding 9/11 Ground Zero site- which is considered a burial site b/c of the people that died there, and the fact that many remains were unrecoverable there.

    I submit that anyone who cannot, at the least, understand why that might be offensive to families of murdered Americans is not discussing the subject open-mindedly.

    Not a troll, just diferent than you. Where's your compassionate inclusiveness?
    Well, if they put an Al Qaeda tribute near ground zero, i'd certainly understand.
    But you can't condemn every single follower of a religion for what one specific group of radicals did.

    Besides this is old news, someone already started this thread.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    has anybody studied the koran (spelling ?) or muslim bible ? I have not but keep hearing stories about Americans being the bad people of this world , anybody know anything about it ?

    Godfather.
  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    if obama being a muslim or not isn't a point why bring it up in the OP?

    have you read the other thread about this? because it was posted several times that many of the 9/11 victims families support this
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    Godfather. wrote:
    has anybody studied the koran (spelling ?) or muslim bible ? I have not but keep hearing stories about Americans being the bad people of this world , anybody know anything about it ?

    Godfather.


    the koran can be contradictory like every other bible but there are parts that say it doesn't matter what a person's belief is as long as they are a good person and if you murder an innocent it is as if you murder the entire world. hell, the koran also thinks jesus was a prophet of god!
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • Your Mom Made Me Pancakes
    Your Mom Made Me Pancakes Posts: 169
    Says Pepe.

    A student of "every other bible."

    Ha.
  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    Your Mom Is Sleeping Over wrote:
    Says Pepe.

    A student of "every other bible."

    Ha.


    yeah, i took some classes on religion in college, you should try learning about other cultures instead of just blindly accepting things about them
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Pepe Silvia wrote:
    Your Mom Is Sleeping Over wrote:
    Says Pepe.

    A student of "every other bible."

    Ha.


    yeah, i took some classes on religion in college, you should try learning about other cultures instead of just blindly accepting things about them

    meh... it's much easier to learn about other religions from talk radio or partisan websites than some anti-american, radically liberal university class.

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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Pepe Silvia wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    has anybody studied the koran (spelling ?) or muslim bible ? I have not but keep hearing stories about Americans being the bad people of this world , anybody know anything about it ?

    Godfather.


    the koran can be contradictory like every other bible but there are parts that say it doesn't matter what a person's belief is as long as they are a good person and if you murder an innocent it is as if you murder the entire world. hell, the koran also thinks jesus was a prophet of god!

    my question was serious I wassn't trying to stirr up any grief, it might be something I look into just to see.

    Godfather.
  • Your Mom Made Me Pancakes
    Your Mom Made Me Pancakes Posts: 169
    Got the classes at the liberal college also.

    Even got that thing they give you when you graduate.

    But I didn't learn how to defend murderous terrorists while apologizing for all things American until I started studying here at the Pearl Jam Community College.

    Don't any of you get jobs, what would I do at work all day?
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    I'll ask the same question I asked in the other thread:

    How close to ground zero is too close for a mosque? 2 blocks, 5 blocks, anywhere in the city, state lines, etc.

    Point is, a mosque really has nothing to do with the attacks.

    (that being said, I did read some stuff about the group that want to open the mosque and they do look like they are trying to be a little in-your-face about it with regard to 9/11)
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  • _
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    Godfather. wrote:
    has anybody studied the koran (spelling ?) or muslim bible ? I have not but keep hearing stories about Americans being the bad people of this world , anybody know anything about it ?

    Godfather.

    I don't understand your question. Are you asking whether the Koran says Americans are bad people? Because I'm pretty sure it was written long before the United States existed.
  • cajunkiwi
    cajunkiwi Posts: 984
    Your Mom Is Sleeping Over wrote:
    Don't you mean your "Don't talk to people with opposing viewpoints" sign?

    I believe B.O. is a Muslim, and I acknowledge that it would hard to prove he is or isn't- and that at this point it is irrelevant.

    However, the post is regarding 9/11 Ground Zero site- which is considered a burial site b/c of the people that died there, and the fact that many remains were unrecoverable there.

    I submit that anyone who cannot, at the least, understand why that might be offensive to families of murdered Americans is not discussing the subject open-mindedly.

    Not a troll, just diferent than you. Where's your compassionate inclusiveness?

    If it's irrelevant, why bring it up at all? You made the joke about it in your post, so I assume that despite your "at this point it is irrelevant" comment that it is in fact relevant to you.

    Also, perhaps you need to look at this a little more open-mindedly too. There were plenty of innocent American Muslims who were in the World Trade Center towers on 9/11 too - do you think their memories shouldn't be honored?

    Maybe Oklahoma City should be devoid of churches.
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    know1 wrote:
    I'll ask the same question I asked in the other thread:

    How close to ground zero is too close for a mosque? 2 blocks, 5 blocks, anywhere in the city, state lines, etc.

    Point is, a mosque really has nothing to do with the attacks.

    (that being said, I did read some stuff about the group that want to open the mosque and they do look like they are trying to be a little in-your-face about it with regard to 9/11)
    ...
    Who did you read about... and what did they say?
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  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    Your Mom Is Sleeping Over wrote:
    Don't you mean your "Don't talk to people with opposing viewpoints" sign?

    I believe B.O. is a Muslim, and I acknowledge that it would hard to prove he is or isn't- and that at this point it is irrelevant.

    However, the post is regarding 9/11 Ground Zero site- which is considered a burial site b/c of the people that died there, and the fact that many remains were unrecoverable there.

    I submit that anyone who cannot, at the least, understand why that might be offensive to families of murdered Americans is not discussing the subject open-mindedly.

    Not a troll, just diferent than you. Where's your compassionate inclusiveness?

    What if some Fundamentalist Christians were responsible for 911....would you be against having a church at ground zero?

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