Smashing Pumpkins 2010 Summer US Tour

LukinFan

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TUE 7/6 Cleveland, OH - House of Blues
THU 7/8 Grand Rapids, MI - Orbit Room
FRI 7/9 Columbus, OH - Newport Music Hall
SAT 7/10 Louisville, KY - Forecastle Festival
MON 7/12 Baltimore, MD - Rams Head Live
TUE 7/13 Richmond,VA - The National
THU 7/15 Norfolk, VA - The Norva
FRI 7/16 Charlotte, NC - Fillmore
SAT 7/17 Charleston, SC - Music Farm
MON 7/19 Orlando, FL - House of Blues
TUE 7/20 Ft. Lauderdale, FL - Revolution
WED 7/21 Tampa, FL - Ritz



Anyone planning on checking them out? I was thinking about the Ft. Lauderdale show if tickets aren't too expensive. Speaking of, anyone know when tickets go onsale?

FenwayFaithful

Saw them in Boston two years ago. It was nice hearing all the old songs, but not the same anymore.

LukinFan

FenwayFaithful wrote:

Saw them in Boston two years ago. It was nice hearing all the old songs, but not the same anymore.

very true

JonnyPistachio

Love the Pumpkins, but it all kinda boils down to how I feel that day. I live about 45 minutes from the Ft lauderdale show,...so maybe!

Who is even playing with Billy these days?

420Rick

I am/was a huge Smashing Pumpkins fan. But after seeing them at Mohegan Sun on Nov 16, 2008, I don't think I will go back and see them live again.
Billy is just too self-centered and only cares about playing what he wants to play even if the fans dont recognize what he is playing/singing.
Billy even made mention of it during the Mohegan Sun show.
After a couple of slow and uninteresting songs (A Song for a Son, SuperChrist, United States (12 min long), 99 Floors and Otawa), he said, "I'm sure you are wondering what the hell's going on up here. We share your sentiment" and then went into a slow version of Landslide. Ummm....can we get some rockin tunes, please? This is a 20th Anniversary show. How about a couple of songs we know.
I am a huge fan and have 90% of their music including imports and boxsets, so I am familiar with a great portion of their catalog. Unfortunately, hardly anything good was played.
Eventually they played Today, Cherub Rock and Zero and played them at 2x speed. I guess they wanted to burn right through em and get back to the lousy cover songs (Sound of Silence - Simon and Garfunkel - REALLY???, Little Red Riding Hood - Sam the Sham cover, and the encore was Pink Floyd's "Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun" which I normallylove) But it was 20 minutes long of just rotten noise. Seriously, I couldnt take it and left 7-8 min into the song.
Billy got booed by his fans and he didnt look like he cared.

So, I guess, if you are expecting a great live show (ala Pearl Jam), you wont get even close if you see the Pumpkins. You might even regret it. I know I did.

Here is the setlist of that night http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/the-smashing-pumpkins/2008/mohegan-sun-arena-uncasville-ct-73d4b2c5.html

A review http://www.masslive.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2008/11/smashing_pumpkins_at_mohegan_s.html

And some not so flattering fanviews...http://www.topix.com/forum/who/the-smashing-pumpkins/TE3IQRKQFNTH7P7M1

Current lineup includes:
Bassist Nicole Fiorentino is the newest member of The Smashing Pumpkins, where she will be joining lead singer and guitarist Billy Corgan, guitarist Jeff Schroeder and drummer Mike Byrne

LukinFan

420Rick wrote:

I am/was a huge Smashing Pumpkins fan. But after seeing them at Mohegan Sun on Nov 16, 2008, I don't think I will go back and see them live again.
Billy is just too self-centered and only cares about playing what he wants to play even if the fans dont recognize what he is playing/singing.
Billy even made mention of it during the Mohegan Sun show.
After a couple of slow and uninteresting songs (A Song for a Son, SuperChrist, United States (12 min long), 99 Floors and Otawa), he said, "I'm sure you are wondering what the hell's going on up here. We share your sentiment" and then went into a slow version of Landslide. Ummm....can we get some rockin tunes, please? This is a 20th Anniversary show. How about a couple of songs we know.
I am a huge fan and have 90% of their music including imports and boxsets, so I am familiar with a great portion of their catalog. Unfortunately, hardly anything good was played.
Eventually they played Today, Cherub Rock and Zero and played them at 2x speed. I guess they wanted to burn right through em and get back to the lousy cover songs (Sound of Silence - Simon and Garfunkel - REALLY???, Little Red Riding Hood - Sam the Sham cover, and the encore was Pink Floyd's "Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun" which I normallylove) But it was 20 minutes long of just rotten noise. Seriously, I couldnt take it and left 7-8 min into the song.
Billy got booed by his fans and he didnt look like he cared.

So, I guess, if you are expecting a great live show (ala Pearl Jam), you wont get even close if you see the Pumpkins. You might even regret it. I know I did.

Here is the setlist of that night http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/the-smashing-pumpkins/2008/mohegan-sun-arena-uncasville-ct-73d4b2c5.html

A review http://www.masslive.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2008/11/smashing_pumpkins_at_mohegan_s.html

And some not so flattering fanviews...http://www.topix.com/forum/who/the-smashing-pumpkins/TE3IQRKQFNTH7P7M1

Current lineup includes:
Bassist Nicole Fiorentino is the newest member of The Smashing Pumpkins, where she will be joining lead singer and guitarist Billy Corgan, guitarist Jeff Schroeder and drummer Mike Byrne

oh wow- thanks for the info. Think i will pass on this show now. Since they are playing clubs on this tour- I figured tickets would be at least $50 plus fees for the shows, which doesn't seem worth it

FenwayFaithful

LukinFan wrote:

FenwayFaithful wrote:

Saw them in Boston two years ago. It was nice hearing all the old songs, but not the same anymore.

very true

Its also worth mentioning that I was given the two tickets from an old college friend and nobody wanted to go with me to the show. Not even for a free ticket. My roommates, my sister, my girlfriend at the time, nobody. Needless to say I was melancholy, and there was infinite sadness on their face when I told them I was going alone.

Gardenparty

LukinFan wrote:

420Rick wrote:

I am/was a huge Smashing Pumpkins fan. But after seeing them at Mohegan Sun on Nov 16, 2008, I don't think I will go back and see them live again.
Billy is just too self-centered and only cares about playing what he wants to play even if the fans dont recognize what he is playing/singing.
Billy even made mention of it during the Mohegan Sun show.
After a couple of slow and uninteresting songs (A Song for a Son, SuperChrist, United States (12 min long), 99 Floors and Otawa), he said, "I'm sure you are wondering what the hell's going on up here. We share your sentiment" and then went into a slow version of Landslide. Ummm....can we get some rockin tunes, please? This is a 20th Anniversary show. How about a couple of songs we know.
I am a huge fan and have 90% of their music including imports and boxsets, so I am familiar with a great portion of their catalog. Unfortunately, hardly anything good was played.
Eventually they played Today, Cherub Rock and Zero and played them at 2x speed. I guess they wanted to burn right through em and get back to the lousy cover songs (Sound of Silence - Simon and Garfunkel - REALLY???, Little Red Riding Hood - Sam the Sham cover, and the encore was Pink Floyd's "Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun" which I normallylove) But it was 20 minutes long of just rotten noise. Seriously, I couldnt take it and left 7-8 min into the song.
Billy got booed by his fans and he didnt look like he cared.

So, I guess, if you are expecting a great live show (ala Pearl Jam), you wont get even close if you see the Pumpkins. You might even regret it. I know I did.

Here is the setlist of that night http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/the-smashing-pumpkins/2008/mohegan-sun-arena-uncasville-ct-73d4b2c5.html

A review http://www.masslive.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2008/11/smashing_pumpkins_at_mohegan_s.html

And some not so flattering fanviews...http://www.topix.com/forum/who/the-smashing-pumpkins/TE3IQRKQFNTH7P7M1

Current lineup includes:
Bassist Nicole Fiorentino is the newest member of The Smashing Pumpkins, where she will be joining lead singer and guitarist Billy Corgan, guitarist Jeff Schroeder and drummer Mike Byrne

oh wow- thanks for the info. Think i will pass on this show now. Since they are playing clubs on this tour- I figured tickets would be at least $50 plus fees for the shows, which doesn't seem worth it

Sounds pretty weak.
However...I feel that if Pearl Jam were to do something like that it would be called the stuff of legend around here. A little credit needs to be given to Billy for not just throwing out a greatest hits set and cashing the obvious check. You can't really blame the dude for being an artist and wanting to play other music than 1979 and Zero. From what i've seen he's been playing new songs "every night" with completely different setlists.
I'm presonally on the fence. I'd rather see some hits as well. But...i actually saw them on the Melancholy tour and they did the same thing. I only knew a small handful of songs despite being fluent in their catalog.

pjfaninindiana

Saw them in 2008 and it kicked fucking ass in my book. They played a few hits, Bullet, Today, Tonight, Tonight, but left out the others. Only complaint was that Pink Floyd cover was a bit too long. Still a great show. I'm sad Jimmy's no longer around, but, i'd give the new lineup a chance. Billy is not the first person to ever change a lineup/band members, and i'm sure he won't be the last.

CJMST3K

I live about 15 minutes away from their local show.

...without Jimmy Chamberlain, it's just Billy whining. :?

Indifference71

FenwayFaithful wrote:

LukinFan wrote:

FenwayFaithful wrote:

Saw them in Boston two years ago. It was nice hearing all the old songs, but not the same anymore.

very true

Its also worth mentioning that I was given the two tickets from an old college friend and nobody wanted to go with me to the show. Not even for a free ticket. My roommates, my sister, my girlfriend at the time, nobody. Needless to say I was melancholy, and there was infinite sadness on their face when I told them I was going alone.

Unfortunately, I would probably turn down a free tick to the "Smashing Pumpkins" at this point. Billy Corgan has completely lost it.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

I just got the new limited box set in the mail today. No way they are coming to Winnipeg, but I'd jump at the chance to see them if they did. I go there to see a performance, not some cookie-cutter greatest hits set. I'd welcome a bizarre setlist.

Gardenparty

Gardenparty wrote:

LukinFan wrote:

420Rick wrote:

I am/was a huge Smashing Pumpkins fan. But after seeing them at Mohegan Sun on Nov 16, 2008, I don't think I will go back and see them live again.
Billy is just too self-centered and only cares about playing what he wants to play even if the fans dont recognize what he is playing/singing.
Billy even made mention of it during the Mohegan Sun show.
After a couple of slow and uninteresting songs (A Song for a Son, SuperChrist, United States (12 min long), 99 Floors and Otawa), he said, "I'm sure you are wondering what the hell's going on up here. We share your sentiment" and then went into a slow version of Landslide. Ummm....can we get some rockin tunes, please? This is a 20th Anniversary show. How about a couple of songs we know.
I am a huge fan and have 90% of their music including imports and boxsets, so I am familiar with a great portion of their catalog. Unfortunately, hardly anything good was played.
Eventually they played Today, Cherub Rock and Zero and played them at 2x speed. I guess they wanted to burn right through em and get back to the lousy cover songs (Sound of Silence - Simon and Garfunkel - REALLY???, Little Red Riding Hood - Sam the Sham cover, and the encore was Pink Floyd's "Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun" which I normallylove) But it was 20 minutes long of just rotten noise. Seriously, I couldnt take it and left 7-8 min into the song.
Billy got booed by his fans and he didnt look like he cared.

So, I guess, if you are expecting a great live show (ala Pearl Jam), you wont get even close if you see the Pumpkins. You might even regret it. I know I did.

Here is the setlist of that night http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/the-smashing-pumpkins/2008/mohegan-sun-arena-uncasville-ct-73d4b2c5.html

A review http://www.masslive.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2008/11/smashing_pumpkins_at_mohegan_s.html

And some not so flattering fanviews...http://www.topix.com/forum/who/the-smashing-pumpkins/TE3IQRKQFNTH7P7M1

Current lineup includes:
Bassist Nicole Fiorentino is the newest member of The Smashing Pumpkins, where she will be joining lead singer and guitarist Billy Corgan, guitarist Jeff Schroeder and drummer Mike Byrne

oh wow- thanks for the info. Think i will pass on this show now. Since they are playing clubs on this tour- I figured tickets would be at least $50 plus fees for the shows, which doesn't seem worth it

Sounds pretty weak.
However...I feel that if Pearl Jam were to do something like that it would be called the stuff of legend around here. A little credit needs to be given to Billy for not just throwing out a greatest hits set and cashing the obvious check. You can't really blame the dude for being an artist and wanting to play other music than 1979 and Zero. From what i've seen he's been playing new songs "every night" with completely different setlists.
I'm presonally on the fence. I'd rather see some hits as well. But...i actually saw them on the Melancholy tour and they did the same thing. I only knew a small handful of songs despite being fluent in their catalog.

Also, after seeing the setlist , any time you get Soma, Mayonaise and Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness in a night thats pretty rad in my book.

intodeep

I'm pretty sure i'm going to the charlotte show.
I've seen them a few times recently and they still make it a fun show and have a good mix of tunes.

Indifference71

Billy Pumpkin wrote:

I just got the new limited box set in the mail today. No way they are coming to Winnipeg, but I'd jump at the chance to see them if they did. I go there to see a performance, not some cookie-cutter greatest hits set. I'd welcome a bizarre setlist.

I don't have a problem with the bizarre setlist, it's just the fact that Billy Corgan is such an asshole. I wasn't there, but when they played the 20th anniversary shows in Chicago, he was yelling at and berating the audience when they became a little restless to hear some hits.

Brisk.

GO SEE THEM THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT EACH TOUR. YES THEY WERE DOING THAT IN 08 BUT IT'S A NEW LINEUP AND THEY AREN'T DOING ANYTHING LIKE THAT THESE DAYS!!!!!!

YOU REALLY THINK THEY KEEPING THE SAME SET FOR OVER 2 YEARS? AND ITS PRETTY SAD TO NOT GO CHECK IT OUT YOURSELF.

SORRY FOR CAPS, CBA TO RE TYPE IT OUT AGAIN AS I STARTED WITH CAPS SO JUST STUCK WITH IT.

LukinFan

Brisk. wrote:

GO SEE THEM THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT EACH TOUR. YES THEY WERE DOING THAT IN 08 BUT IT'S A NEW LINEUP AND THEY AREN'T DOING ANYTHING LIKE THAT THESE DAYS!!!!!!

YOU REALLY THINK THEY KEEPING THE SAME SET FOR OVER 2 YEARS? AND ITS PRETTY SAD TO NOT GO CHECK IT OUT YOURSELF.

SORRY FOR CAPS, CBA TO RE TYPE IT OUT AGAIN AS I STARTED WITH CAPS SO JUST STUCK WITH IT.

haha- thanks Brisk. Yeah, I've thought about that. New band, new album. If I'm in south Florida around the day of the show, and if tickets aren't too expensive, I'll probably check them out

PissBottleMan

Saw them in '96...Billy was a dick to the crowd.

14 years later, it doesn't sound like much has changed.

PBM

Brisk.

PissBottleMan wrote:

Saw them in '96...Billy was a dick to the crowd.

14 years later, it doesn't sound like much has changed.

PBM

Would do anything to have been on that tour, technically just because Billy is a dick you can't deny they are a great band anyway.

titchinello

LukinFan wrote:

FenwayFaithful wrote:

Saw them in Boston two years ago. It was nice hearing all the old songs, but not the same anymore.

very true

yeah. i saw them in glasgow, was a good show, and a great performance, and billy was on fire... but still felt like something was missing, not quite right... saying that i'd still go see them again if i could.

PissBottleMan

Brisk. wrote:

Would do anything to have been on that tour, technically just because Billy is a dick you can't deny they are a great band anyway.

If you talk down to the people who paid money to see you, you can't expect to hold on to an audience.

Great band? Yeah, there are good songs, but Billy's attitude is a blemish on his art.

PBM

Gary Carter

PissBottleMan wrote:

Brisk. wrote:

Would do anything to have been on that tour, technically just because Billy is a dick you can't deny they are a great band anyway.

If you talk down to the people who paid money to see you, you can't expect to hold on to an audience.

Great band? Yeah, there are good songs, but Billy's attitude is a blemish on his art.

PBM

that's what happens when you become a washed up artist who no one wants to see or cares for. to bad they aren't playing nyc. i'd go just to heckle billy.

Kilgore_Trout

just checked out the website cause i realized i was behind on the free singles... WTF is "stitch in time"?!? TERRIBLE... astral planes is crappy too

and the new bassist? im sure billy is making all his decisions on musical talent :roll:

and the album art sucks

really NOTHING cool about this band anymore...

JIMMY FTW

Pepe Silvia

i saw them when they did that mini-tour 3 years ago, tickets were only $20, not sure what they were after the album came out.

i don't really care for their new stuff but fuck, billy corgan can play a guitar! he's really tall, too. i'm not the biggest fan of the way he sings but like i said, he is a great guitarist. he played a bunch of led zeppelin riffs in between songs when i saw them

vedder_soup

they were a great band, i enjoyed seeing them in 08, but now i would not go now.
with jimmy gone, it is just billy and a bunch of tag alongs. I dont care if billy wnet and played pumpkins songs under his name, but touring as the pumpkins with just him is shit

pjl44

Saw them on that first reunion tour when they did 3 nights at the Orpheum. I went to all 3, got to hear a nice mix of songs, and they sounded fantastic. Didn't get a chance to catch the subsequent anniversary tour...I remember checking out the setlists and thinking that they didn't play anything I felt I missed the first time around. Depending on $, I'd probably see them if they came around the Northeast again.

circlesdown

I've seen many SP setlists over recent years and wondered why he wants to bore the shit out of everybody. BUT, I just looked at the setlist from the show you saw and you actually got way more than most I've seen lately. You got Soma and Mayonaise amongst several other oldies/goodies. I paid a lot to see them at a club on the Machina tour and the cowd was BEGGING for Soma, he even once asked for requests and there was an instant Soma! Soma! chant and he blew it off and played heavy metal machine. He truly couldn't care less. Being a PJ fan has taught me to stick with a great artist even when they fall off the radar into relative obscurity because they are still able to produce great music, but I'm sorry, Corgan's most recent efforts have all been pretty weak*.

*Except Tarantula and Doomsday Clock. This proves that Billy can still do it he just choses not to. A la Adore.

petrocs

He knows not to come near Philly...cause I'll bitch slap him with a Strung Out CD!

rb115565

I just dont think Corgan is into it anymore, He was pretty much forced to reform the Pumpkins because people did not care about his other music

justam

I just bought my ticket to their show in Tampa. (They're playing in a really small place.)

release30

LukinFan wrote:

Brisk. wrote:

GO SEE THEM THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT EACH TOUR. YES THEY WERE DOING THAT IN 08 BUT IT'S A NEW LINEUP AND THEY AREN'T DOING ANYTHING LIKE THAT THESE DAYS!!!!!!

YOU REALLY THINK THEY KEEPING THE SAME SET FOR OVER 2 YEARS? AND ITS PRETTY SAD TO NOT GO CHECK IT OUT YOURSELF.

SORRY FOR CAPS, CBA TO RE TYPE IT OUT AGAIN AS I STARTED WITH CAPS SO JUST STUCK WITH IT.

haha- thanks Brisk. Yeah, I've thought about that. New band, new album. If I'm in south Florida around the day of the show, and if tickets aren't too expensive, I'll probably check them out

$44.00 +fees.....