I Feel Sorry For George W. Bush

polaris_x

mikepegg44 wrote:

have you ever spoken in front of the world? maybe he gets nervous...I don't know, I have come around on him, policy wise I wasn't a fan at all, but I don't think he is the bumbling idiot he was made out to be. He had a lot of moments that would point to the contrary, but he just isn't stupid. And the idea that he was just some little puppet is stupid, but it is so much easier to believe in some sort of conspiracy.

I would like to see anyone on this forum give a speech everyday and have every word they say in public recorded by the media, that would be fantastic.

now watch this drive

the guy could never answer a question that wasn't pre-screened (therefore pre-answered) for him ... that is why he was called a puppet ... he didn't have the intelligence nor the knowledge to answer basic questions much like sarah palin ...

it's not so much how articulate you are in giving a speech ... it's whether or not you know the answer and almost just as important whether you understand the question ...

mikepegg44

MrSmith wrote:

whats speech got to do with it? ask his teachers in school. look at his record. i'm not saying he was a complete idiot, but he definitely no higher than slightly above average intelligence.

but you would think after a few years in office the man would learn how to give a speech without fucking something up.

strategery.

I could be wrong of course, but what is wrong with above average intelligence? doesn't that contradict the idea he was a bumbling goof who was stupid as hell?

chadwick

MrSmith wrote:

whats speech got to do with it? ask his teachers in school. look at his record. look at his complete failure to be a leader with 9/11 and Katrina. i'm not saying he was a complete idiot, but he definitely no higher than slightly above average intelligence.

but you would think after a few years in office the man would learn how to give a speech without fucking something up.

strategery.

intellect comes in many forms.
in some intellectual avenues, W, is genius.
he is a genius at corruption and heartlessness.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

mikepegg44 wrote:

MrSmith wrote:

whats speech got to do with it? ask his teachers in school. look at his record. i'm not saying he was a complete idiot, but he definitely no higher than slightly above average intelligence.

but you would think after a few years in office the man would learn how to give a speech without fucking something up.

strategery.

I could be wrong of course, but what is wrong with above average intelligence? doesn't that contradict the idea he was a bumbling goof who was stupid as hell?

i expect a little more out of a president, and "average intelligence" is probably pretty low anyway. i'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

but in a time when people vote based on which candidate they would most want to have a beer with, i shouldnt be suprised.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

and comparatively speaking, most other presidents could run mental circles around him.

Byrnzie

cincybearcat wrote:

By the way, why are you always looking to start a fight?

And why are you always putting words in other people's mouth? I never said GW shouldn't be criticized...in fact I said the opposite. I just get tired of the stupid stuff.

So please stop making stuff up.

I didn't put words in your mouth. You said you object to the cheapshots aimed at George W. Bush, and I responded to that point.

cincybearcat

Byrnzie wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

By the way, why are you always looking to start a fight?

And why are you always putting words in other people's mouth? I never said GW shouldn't be criticized...in fact I said the opposite. I just get tired of the stupid stuff.

So please stop making stuff up.

I didn't put words in your mouth. You said you object to the cheapshots aimed at George W. Bush, and I responded to that point.

You responeded by insinuating that I don't believe GW should be criticized. Quite a leap.

Cosmo

I don't feel sorry for former President G.W. Bush.
But, I do hold him responsible for the decisions and actions he made from 2001-2008 that have lead to consequences that exist today. He can spin his tale anyway he wants, but there was no need to go into Iraq and he should be held responsible for the deaths caused by his decisions. I have this bad habit called 'personal responsibility' that I just can't seem to shake.
And people try to compare Hurricane Katrina with the BP Gulf mess. Nope. Only similarity... the region. If Hurricane Katrina was created by the Casablanca Ceiling Fan corporation and it spun out of control over New Orleans for 40 days while Casablanca execs pondered ways to stop Katrina, I wouldn't feel that his 3 day delayed response was a poor decision/non-action. Just as, if the Gulf oil gusher was the result of a natural occurance and stopped gushing... if Obama waited 3 days while dead bodies lay in the streets of an American city before even acknowledging the disaster... I'd be all over his boney black ass.
Bush keeps thinking that History will vindicate his administration... and it probably will when the Texas board that decides history blurs facts and slants the story. I mean, Joseph McCarthy is going to be vindicated and presented as heroic in upcoming History text books. If a guy like McCarthy can be re-written... why not G.W. Bush?

Enkidu

I feel sorry for him. I wonder - and I'm obviously guessing here - did he ever really want to be president? Did he ever have real ambition to do anything? Or did he just want to please his father (mother?)? He seems like a spoiled rich ambition-less boy who coasted through life, always got what he wanted, and ended up president.

callen

Enkidu wrote:

I feel sorry for him. I wonder - and I'm obviously guessing here - did he ever really want to be president? Did he ever have real ambition to do anything? Or did he just want to please his father (mother?)? He seems like a spoiled rich ambition-less boy who coasted through life, always got what he wanted, and ended up president.

Right?! Then when he woke up and had responsibility he did lotsa prayin. Thank God he had a mythical belief system in which to rely. Oh and getting valuable advise fom his evil henchmen

Godfather.

Byrnzie wrote:

ogre1213 wrote:

best president ever

And Israel is the greatest, right?

well he did serve 2 terms do you think nobama will get that chance ?

Godfather.

Godfather.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl2375

then there is the guy that can't stop campaining...can't blame him he's gonna need it.
there is some cool footage at the bottom of the page.

Godfather.

badbrains

ogre1213 wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

ogre1213 wrote:

best president ever

And Israel is the greatest, right?

yup, Israel is gonna save the world one day

From who, themselves??? When, when the sun rises in the west and sets in the east???

Smellyman

Godfather. wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

ogre1213 wrote:

best president ever

And Israel is the greatest, right?

well he did serve 2 terms do you think nobama will get that chance ?

Godfather.

Maybe not. The retards who voted Bush in twice are still out there.....waiting for Beck to tell them who to vote for.

Byrnzie

cincybearcat wrote:

You responeded by insinuating that I don't believe GW should be criticized. Quite a leap.

No leap at all. You have a problem with people making cheapshots towards George W. Bush:

cincybearcat wrote:

But honestly, I don't think I feel sorry for GW at all, except for the cheapshots, but that is to be expected.

And it's you that's trying to start a fight, not me. Stop twisting things.

alivegirl

Oh dear, i hope this doesn't mean he's on the campaign trail!

George W Bush joins social networking giant Facebook

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_and ... 221253.stm

pandora

I didn't read all this, I read what Brynzie wrote. I just have one rather silly comment.
I meet people as I go through life that I can picture as kindergarteners. You know, well maybe not, that face you can picture at age five. George W is one of those people for me. It always effects how I feel about them.

cincybearcat

Byrnzie wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

You responeded by insinuating that I don't believe GW should be criticized. Quite a leap.

No leap at all. You have a problem with people making cheapshots towards George W. Bush:

cincybearcat wrote:

But honestly, I don't think I feel sorry for GW at all, except for the cheapshots, but that is to be expected.

And it's you that's trying to start a fight, not me. Stop twisting things.

Huh? I seriously have no idea how we could be seeing this so different. Maybe I'll use math since it is the language of all:

Cheap Shots + Criticism of policy + criticism of methods = all criticism

Hence, cheap shots aren't all criticism. Anyhow, this is a pretty worthless conversation, so feel free to comment back but I'm done now.

polaris_x

i wrote this in that thread on worst president ever on the AET:

but, most ex-presidents go and take up a cause or start a foundation ... at least make the appearance they are trying to make the world a better place ... W on the other hand golfs 3 days a week and does fucking public speaking tours for cash ...

the guy never did care for anything i suppose ...

mysticweed

nuffingman wrote:

I've always felt sympathy for anyone that is that dumb, including those that voted for him for 2 terms. Being upstairs innocently stroking himself off paints a terrible picture.

i agree with nuffingman
on all counts