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**Petition to KEEP MORE CROWD NOISE on MSG Bootlegs!!**

benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,018
edited June 2010 in The Porch
The big thing for me that separates a bootleg from being there, is the presence of the crowd. The band has microphones pointing outwards to capture crowd noise - how about giving the crowd more presence for these MSG boots? For me, that crowd noise was what made those shows so damn special. Anyone with me? :D
'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

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Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
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    iamloco724iamloco724 Brooklyn NY Posts: 1,441
    if possible i would like this as well
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    blackngoldblackngold Posts: 264
    Agreed.
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    AmherstJammerAmherstJammer Amherst, Massachusetts Posts: 1,510
    Yes! :thumbup:
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    samjamsamjam New York Posts: 9,283
    Most definitely.

    The crowd was absolutely nuts & so very loud- it was extremely powerful!
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    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,018
    I'm going to bump, and attempt to update. PM if I missed your name.

    Edit: I take it back. Let's just get this thread really big :mrgreen:
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
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    DissidentmanDissidentman Posts: 15,378
    I agree with this
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    Stypo420Stypo420 Posts: 519
    Agreed :mrgreen:
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    Mr RockoMr Rocko Posts: 647
    +1
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    mavimavi Posts: 941
    Agreed. Pearl Jam is always great, but a BIG part of what made these shows extraordinary was the crowd.
    "He who hears music, feels his solitude peopled at once" R. Browning
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    y2jgreatone99y2jgreatone99 Posts: 1
    Love the crowds at all the shows!!!! def wanna hear it a little more.
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    GD274660GD274660 Posts: 514
    I've never been a part of anything like that in my life....if they could keep that noise that I still feel on the bootleg.....I would be so, so happy.
    San Jose 10/93, San Francisco 6/95, San Jose 11/95, St Louis 4/03, Columbus 5/10, MSGII 5/21/2010, Alpine Valley 09/03/2011 and 09/04/2011
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    KK67764KK67764 Posts: 36
    +1
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    normnorm I'm always home. I'm uncool. Posts: 31,146
    yes please
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    grizahamgrizaham Nashville, TN Posts: 338
    So since MSG II was better than average are we gonna have to wait 7 months til the bootlegs come out like we did for Philly?? Hope not..
    Seen PJ 21 times live from 1994-2019

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    FirstExitFirstExit Los Angeles Posts: 973
    In!!! One thing I didn't like about the Philly bootlegs was the crowd....that crowd was OUT OF CONTROL (especially night 4) and you don't hear it all that well on the boot.
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    bat2144bat2144 Posts: 33
    Yes please.
    i was a fool b/c i thought the world
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    ryanevolutionryanevolution Posts: 782
    YES!! PLEASE!
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    of PEARL JAM - WORLD CAFE LIVE PHILLY JUNE 19th 7pm
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    MUZIKMUZIK Posts: 627
    + 19 ;)

    example is the philly boots partically night 3 where it was one of the best and loudest crowds i've witnessed and it really doesnt capture that on the bootleg.

    im no engineer or technician, but im sure they can raise the volume of the crowd during certain parts of the concert to capture that feeling since they have mics that are pointing straight out to the crowd.

    the crowd is really important factor for me it least when it comes to buying bootlegs, if i wasnt there i wanna feel like i was. 8-)
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    PakaPaka Posts: 471
    Hell yes! The reaction of the crowd is what causes heebie-jeebies to me when listening to the boots. Obviously all the more if you've personally been to this particular show (that's why I love and prefer (and always will) the boot of my first show - Bern 2006 - great crowd acoustic crowd presence!)

    Another thing I'd love to have back on the boots is the intro. It's simply a part of the whole show so why cutting it of? Another thing I love about 'my' Bern boot..;)
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    MUZIKMUZIK Posts: 627
    Paka wrote:
    Another thing I'd love to have back on the boots is the intro. It's simply a part of the whole show so why cutting it of? Another thing I love about 'my' Bern boot..;)

    AGREED!

    was really hopin for the intro/rocky theme for the philly boots :?
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    mikepmikep Posts: 290
    i 100% wholeheartedly completely and absolutely agree!!!!!!
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    in eds treein eds tree Denver Posts: 539
    yes.
    keep on rockin' in the free world.
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    Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    i would also like the boot infused with MSG air/odor

    big part of the show ;)
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    adropintheparkadropinthepark Posts: 475
    Yes, please!!!! Most definitely. Crowd noise on the boots helps me feel like I'm there.
    I carried a watermelon
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    Gary CarterGary Carter Shea Stadium Posts: 14,002
    Pearl jam haven't gotten the bootlegs right since 00. Every tour since 00 has been shit. Audience bootlegs are the way I go these days.
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    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,018
    metsfan wrote:
    Pearl jam haven't gotten the bootlegs right since 00. Every tour since 00 has been shit. Audience bootlegs are the way I go these days.
    Listening to MSG Night Two audience boot that's out there right now, and I'm starting to wonder if you're right.
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
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    SuperStickmanSuperStickman Posts: 80
    I wouldn't say that the official boots have been "sh*t," I think they have been quite good.

    I definitely agree, though, that (especially when a crowd is exceptional) there is the opportunity to attempt to capture that better on the boot.

    I don't really know anything about concert recording, but I wonder if there has been an attempt to set up an additional mike or two dedicated to capturing only the crowd's contribution to shows...
    "The goal of a coach is to take a guy who has beaten down by his parents, by religion, by society, to take that guy and build him back up to find his spirit to go out and fight" Joe Lewis
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    dustinparduedustinpardue Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,829
    benjs wrote:
    The big thing for me that separates a bootleg from being there, is the presence of the crowd. The band has microphones pointing outwards to capture crowd noise - how about giving the crowd more presence for these MSG boots? For me, that crowd noise was what made those shows so damn special. Anyone with me? :D


    exactly!
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    My3rdEyeMy3rdEye Posts: 926
    I agree. This is what one of the reasons the 2003 bootlegs are so great. Great balance of crowd noise and band.
    My blog for your boots:
    http://inthepresenttense.blogspot.com/
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    iamloco724iamloco724 Brooklyn NY Posts: 1,441
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    benjs wrote:
    metsfan wrote:
    Pearl jam haven't gotten the bootlegs right since 00. Every tour since 00 has been shit. Audience bootlegs are the way I go these days.
    Listening to MSG Night Two audience boot that's out there right now, and I'm starting to wonder if you're right.


    Where can I find the recordeing your refering to
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