Unusually for the mayor, Adams didn’t publicize this story himself, and his administration for nearly a month has failed to correct several publicmisperceptions about it.
One misperception is that the program allows the city to give out just $50 million to migrants.
No wonder the mayor has been reticent.
This debit card program — if you read the actual contract — has the potential to become an open-ended, multibillion-dollar Bermuda Triangle of disappearing, untraceable cash, used for any purpose.
It will give migrants up to $10,000 each in taxpayer money with no ID check, no restrictions and no fraud control.
The atm card was supposed to be easier for them to get their meals and such rather than the city having to do it.
Don't worry, you'll soon be able to show up at a detention facility near you and throw rocks and jeer. Herr Miller gunning for the Service Cross, eh? And what year is it anyway, right?
Trump and allies planning militarized mass deportations, detention camps
As president, Trump sought to use military planes and bases for deportation. Now, he and his allies are talking about a new effort that current and former officials warn could be impractical and dangerous.
Faced with a surge of migrant families at the U.S.-Mexico border in 2018 and 2019, Donald Trump’s White House discussed ways to more aggressively deploy the resources and the might of the U.S. military.
Aides and officials spoke privately about detaining migrants on military bases and flying them out of the country on military planes — ideas that the Pentagon headed off. Throughout his presidency, Trump himself would frequently demand to send troops to the border and catch people crossing.
“He was obsessed with having the military involved,” said a former senior administration official, who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe private discussions.
That approach and unfinished business have taken on renewed significance and urgency as the country confronts another migrant crisis on the U.S.-Mexico border, and as Trump closes in on the Republican presidential nomination. The former president is making immigration a core campaign theme, promoting a proposal for an unprecedented deportation effort if he is returned to power.
Trump pledges that as president he would immediately launch “the largest domestic deportation operation in American history.” As a model, he points to an Eisenhower-era program known as “Operation Wetback,” using a derogatory slur for Mexican migrants. The operation used military tactics to round up and remove migrant workers, sometimes transporting them in dangerous conditions that led to some deaths. Former administration officials and policy experts said staging an even larger operation today would face a bottleneck in detention space — a problem that Trump adviser Stephen Miller and other allies have proposed addressing by building mass deportation camps.
“Americans can expect that immediately upon President Trump’s return to the Oval Office, he will restore all of his prior policies, implement brand new crackdowns that will send shock waves to all the world’s criminal smugglers, and marshal every federal and state power necessary to institute the largest deportation operation in American history,” said Trump campaign spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt in a statement. She added that undocumented immigrants “should not get comfortable because very soon they will be going home.”
Trump has made similar promises and has used inflammatory smears since his 2016 campaign. But he, his aides and allies say a second turn in office would be more effective in operating the levers of the federal bureaucracy and less vulnerable to internal resistance. During his term, former officials said, Trump learned to install more officials at the Department of Homeland Security who would carry out his orders instead of trying to curb his impulses.
Throughout his current campaign, the former president has exerted his influence on the immigration policy debate on several fronts. He pressured congressional Republicans to reject a bipartisan compromise to expand enforcement funding and powers, arguing that it would give the Democrats a political victory and that it was not restrictive enough. He has also escalated his use of dehumanizing language to describe migrants, accusing them of “poisoning the blood of our country” and calling the record unauthorized border crossings an “invasion,” an “open wound” and a source of imminent terrorist attacks.
But his deportation proposal is one part of his emerging platform that experts, current and former government officials and others described as especially alarming, impractical and prone to significant legal and logistical hurdles.
“You’re talking about officers in tactical gear going into communities, being videotaped in the streets, putting kids in car seats, carrying baby formula. Then what do you do with those families?” said Jason Houser, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s chief of staff from January 2022 until March 2023. “Are you going to go into neighborhoods in Philly, New York, Baltimore and start tugging people out of communities? That’s what they want. It puts law enforcement and the communities at risk.”
Reflecting on the ideas Trump and his team discussed during his presidency, Houser said, “Their ideas were psychotic.”
‘The military will be deployed’
Trump’s aides are encouraged by polls showing voters prioritizing immigration and trusting him more than President Biden on the issue. But there is some disagreement in his circles on the specifics.
While advisers agree on border security, building a wall on the southern border and deporting migrants who have committed crimes after entering the country as winning political issues, one adviser expressed concern that promising to deport massive numbers of people who haven’t been convicted of a crime could hurt Trump in a general election campaign. Trump’s language and proposals are already under heavy criticism from the Biden campaign, as well as pro-immigration and civil liberties groups.
“Trump is following the 20th century dictator’s playbook of dehumanizing vulnerable groups in order to isolate them and justify cruelty by the state,” Genevieve Nadeau, a former DHS lawyer, said in a report by the nonpartisan organization Protect Democracy. “He’s backing up his rhetoric by threatening to invoke extreme and novel legal tools to effectuate an agenda of inhumanity on a scale we haven’t seen for generations. We should expect him to follow through on his pledges.”
The Trump campaign has also said he would sign an executive order on his first day in office to withhold passports, Social Security numbers and other government benefits from children of undocumented immigrants born in the United States. The idea of challenging the 14th Amendment’s guarantee of birthright citizenship would be sure to draw a court challenge. The proposal has been raised by Trump and Miller before, but the specific promise of an executive order indicated the campaign has put further effort into fleshing it out.
Some in the Trump campaign have tried to tamp down talk of mass deportations and have become frustrated with some outside allies, the Trump adviser said. But another person close to the campaign said Trump and his team remain in touch with Miller, who has described “large-scale raids” and “throughput facilities.” Trump advisers view Miller as the leading authority on “America First” immigration policy, and he is widely expected to reenter the West Wing if Trump wins in November.
“I don’t care what the hell happens in this world,” Miller said on a Feb. 5 podcast interview with right-wing activist Charlie Kirk. “If President Trump gets reelected, the border’s going to be sealed, the military will be deployed, the National Guard will be activated, and the illegals are going home.”
Republicans frustrated with Biden have increasingly promoted the idea of militarized immigration enforcement. In Texas, Gov. Greg Abbott (R) has deployed thousands of National Guard soldiers to stop crossings along the Rio Grande, where he announced plans Friday to build a military base to house the troops.
Trump and his campaign have offered few details about how he would implement his deportation operation, other than to “use all necessary federal, state, local and military resources.”
The pool of potential deportees is large. There are about 11 million immigrants in the United States without legal status, according to the most recent estimates. Nearly 7 million of those are known to ICE, which maintains a vast database of people eligible for deportation whose asylum claims and immigration cases are still pending.
A smaller subset of that caseload — about 1.3 million people — remain in the United States despite having received a deportation order from an immigration judge. These potential deportees, if taken into custody, are the easiest for the government to send home, because they have already received due process. But the government often doesn’t know where they are.
Beyond those challenges, there are other major logistical and operational obstacles to the kind of mass deportations Trump has promised. The first is available personnel: ICE only has about 6,000 deportation officers nationwide. The amount of time it takes to recruit, hire, screen and train a new deportation officer is about two years, according to current and former ICE officials.
Detention space is also squeezed. The Biden administration is using about 38,000 beds at immigration jails and other facilities that hold migrants awaiting deportation. During the Trump years, the number exceeded 50,000, but never reached the kinds of capacity levels necessary for the kind of mega-deportation system Trump envisions.
Some ICE officials said the agency could find more available beds in county jails. But Trump surrogates have gone further, suggesting they would put migrants in “camps” or “tents.”
“So you go around the country arresting illegal immigrants in large-scale raids, you have to have somewhere to put them,” Miller said in a November podcast interview with Kirk. “So you create this efficiency by having these standing facilities where planes are moving off the runway constantly — probably military aircraft, some existing DHS assets — and that’s how you’re able to scale.”
Miller also suggested using National Guard troops, state police and other federal law enforcement agencies as force multipliers, even sending National Guard troops from Republican-led states into neighboring states governed by Democrats. “If you’re going to go into an unfriendly state like Maryland, well, they would just be Virginia doing the arrest in Maryland,” he said in the November podcast interview.
Such street-level roundups are so resource-intensive that many ICE officials view them as impractical. The operations require officers to locate migrants and surveil them to determine a safe opportunity to make an arrest. Such arrests often depend on the cooperation of local police.
“The most crucial part of any law enforcement effort is not to undermine popular support for that effort, and that means doing it legally, doing it respectfully and doing it properly,” said Andrew Arthur, a former immigration judge who is now at the Center for Immigration Studies, which seeks tighter restrictions.
To arrest and deport families with children, the preparations are even more time-consuming. An operation targeting 20 to 30 families for arrest takes two to three weeks of planning, said Houser, the former ICE chief of staff. For ICE to reach a target of 300,000 to 500,000 deportations per year — a far more modest goal than Trump’s — Houser said the agency would need two to three times as many deportation officers as ICE has.
“You’re talking about building a major logistics apparatus that would still have to meet court and legal requirements for health care and child care,” he said.
ICE officers and staff are burned out by the pace and intensity of their work over the past several years, according to a veteran DHS official who was not authorized to speak to reporters. For other law enforcement agencies, the drain on their resources would come at the expense of other legitimate priorities, the former DHS official said, and the operation would have to be continuous to deter new arrivals.
“It feels shortsighted, stupid and an enormous waste of money,” the official said.
Another problem is so-called “recalcitrant countries” that limit or refuse to take back deportees. Nations such as Venezuela and Cuba are already under U.S. economic sanctions, leaving Washington with reduced leverage to compel them to take more deportation flights.
Even other nations that remain U.S. allies in Latin America set conditions on the number of flights and deportees they’re willing to accept. Passenger manifests have to be sent several days in advance. It’s not as simple as loading hundreds of people into a military transport plane and dropping them off wherever the president wants.
A former senior administration official said Trump would be emboldened in a second term and insist on moving faster than his first administration did. The former president has repeatedly suggested he would act as a “dictator” on “day one” to close the border — sometimes adding that he made this comment in jest.
“We will do that immediately,” Trump said in a campaign video last year. “This invasion will not stand.”
Trump’s and Miller’s determination to carry out mass deportations in a second term grew out of frustration with setbacks to their plans while Trump was in power.
In Trump’s first month as president, in 2017, a draft memo obtained by the Associated Press proposed deploying as many as 100,000 National Guard troops to arrest undocumented immigrants throughout the interior of the country. The memo was never implemented, but Trump did sign an executive order directing ICE to detain more unauthorized immigrants, including pregnant women and people without criminal records.
Trump pledged to immediately deport 2 million to 3 million people after his 2016 win but never came close to hitting those targets. At his administration’s high-water mark in 2019, ICE carried out 267,258 deportations and returns, Department of Homeland Security data show.
Trump officials likened the approach to “taking the shackles off,” but it generated a backlash that drove more cities and jurisdictions to adopt sanctuary policies limiting their cooperation with ICE. ICE officials have long preferred to take people into custody from a secure setting such as a jail to avoid the complex planning and adverse publicity of arrests in homes, workplaces or streets.
As the number of people in ICE custody jumped 22 percent in Trump’s first two years, the DHS inspector general uncovered “egregious violations of detention standards,” including inadequate medical care, expired food, lack of recreation, moldy bathrooms and inadequate clothing and hygiene supplies. A separate inspector general’s investigation found “dangerous overcrowding” in an El Paso facility, where a cell built for 25 people held 155.
In June 2018, reporters and human rights activists toured a facility in McAllen, Tex., where children slept under foil sheets surrounded by chain-link fencing, after DHS acknowledged separating children from their parents at the border. Public outrage over an audio clip of a sobbing child forced Trump to halt the practice. DHS later identified 4,227 separated children, 3,147 of whom were reunited with their parent as of November 2023.
Asked in 2023 whether he might reimpose family separation as president, Trump declined to rule it out and defended the policy. “I know it sounds harsh,” he said in a CNN town hall. “When you say to a family that if you come we’re going to break you up, they don’t come. And we can’t afford to have any more.”
In 2019, Trump ordered pre-dawn raids targeting 2,000 families in 10 cities who had received deportation orders, over concerns from top DHS officials about lack of preparation and the effect on children. The administration also changed immigration enforcement rules to expedite deportations of people who had been in the country for less than two years, making it possible to remove them without a hearing in front of an immigration judge.
“You think other countries have judges that give them trials?” Trump said in public remarks in 2018.
As the president’s top adviser on immigration matters, Miller advocated for invoking the Insurrection Act to mobilize the Department of Defense, according to the former officials. Pentagon officials balked at the idea of using military bases and planes, current and former officials recalled, citing concerns of getting mired in an open-ended commitment or compromising troop readiness.
The president himself would often demand to send troops to block the border, according to the former officials. Aides would explain to Trump the lack of budget or legal authority to use the military for immigration, including a law against using the military for domestic law enforcement, according to former national security adviser John Bolton.
“He couldn’t care less,” Bolton said.
Trump was generally more focused on his signature campaign promise to build a wall on the border with Mexico, according to former officials.
“The pressure from the White House was always more about the wall,” a former senior DHS official said. “We didn’t really get significant pressure in the first term on deportations.”
Still, Trump would often say he wanted more deportations and listened to immigration hard-liners, led by Miller, a former senior administration official said. The biggest deterrent, the official said, was limited space to house people while they were awaiting a court proceeding and not enough judges to move the proceedings quickly.
“Every time the hard-liners would say, ‘we need to start arresting them,’ I would say — as I said 50 times — in order to do this, we have to make all these things happen. That was the end of any conversation,” the former senior administration official said. “It’s not an overnight thing.”
Miller reached the conclusion that aggressive immigration enforcement had to be implemented as quickly as possible, without losing time by considering litigation risks, a former DHS official said. During Trump’s first term, immigration advocates and civil liberties groups repeatedly succeeded in halting or narrowing Trump’s policies through court challenges, and he could face similar challenges to a mass deportation operation.
Trump has specifically cited the Eisenhower example and defended its legacy. When CNN’s Jake Tapper noted in 2016 that many people considered it a “shameful chapter in American history,” Trump responded: “Some people do, and some people think it was a very effective chapter. … It was very successful, everyone said. So I mean, that’s the way it is.”
Press reports described the operation in the summer of 1954 as “an all-out war” with a wire-fenced “concentration camp” from which Mexicans were “herded aboard trains.” Others were forcibly marched through miles of rattlesnake-infested deserts or had their heads shaved — ostensibly for hygienic reasons but widely viewed as humiliating, according to historian Juan R. Garcia’s definitive book on the subject. The Red Cross intervened after many braceros, or temporary agricultural workers and laborers, were stranded in the desert, and 88 died of sunstroke, according to Columbia University historian Mae Ngai.
The deportations also used planes, buses and ships, including one built for up to 90 people that was crowded with 500, leading one lawmaker to compare it to a “penal ship.” The use of ships stopped after seven migrants drowned while trying to escape.
The Eisenhower effort “was a one-off,” Ngai said. Trump and his allies “are trying to figure out a way to do that in a sustained way.”
Dogged by Election-Year Border Woes, Biden Weighs Executive Action on Asylum
By Solange Reyner | Wednesday, 21 February 2024 07:02 PM EST
President Joe Biden is considering executive actions and federal regulations aimed at stemming the flow of migrants crossing the U.S.-Mexico border, including changes to asylum standards and stricter points of entry, according to CNN.
With the nation's border apparatus struggling under the burden of surging illegal traffic, the Biden administration has come under heavy fire for failing to do more on the topic through its first three years. The GOP-led House, which has led the way on those escalating criticisms, even voting last week to impeach the Homeland Security chief, Alejandro Mayorkas.
The U.S. Border Patrol recorded 124,220 encounters between ports of entry along the southwest border in January.
The latest figures reflect a drop in border crossings that's no doubt welcome news for the Biden White House, even if it proves temporary, as immigration looms as one of the biggest issues in this year’s presidential election. Exit polls in recent primaries saw voters identify illegal immigration as the foremost concern.
Meanwhile, the border issue has become intertwined with other hot-button topics, chiefly Washington's efforts to authorize fresh military aid for Ukraine and Israel in their respective wars with Russia and Hamas. Legislation linking the aid to border improvements has foundered in Congress for months, with Biden pressing lawmakers to act even as their attacks on his administration ratchet up..
Now, as the election for president draws ever nearer -- it's nine months away == and Biden facing concerning polls showing him facing formidable opposition from former President Donald Trump in a replay of the 2020 race, -- Biden is bringing the border issue to the fore with a proposed new approach.
Proposed.
Biden is considering using an authority known as 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act between ports of entry. It states: "Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate."
Democrats and Republicans have gone back and forth on immigration regulations to address the burgeoning surge of illegal immigrants with the Senate last week failing to pass a supplemental spending agreement that included aid for Ukraine, Israe,l and Taiwan as well as a border security and immigration package.
A previous version of the Trump administration's so-called "travel ban" was upheld by the Supreme Court, but as CBS News has reported, lower courts blocked the government from using the 212(f) authority to make most migrants ineligible for asylum at the southern border.
It's unclear how Biden might aim to distinguish his effort so his order could better stand up in court. U.S. law gives migrants on American soil the right to request asylum, even in instances where they cross illegally.
Lee Gelernt, an American Civil Liberties Union lawyer who convinced federal judges to halt the Trump administration's asylum ban, said in the CBS report that his group would likely sue the government again if Mr. Biden issues a similar order.
"An executive order denying asylum based on where one enters the country would just be another attempt at the exact policy Trump unsuccessfully tried and will undoubtedly end up in litigation," Gelernt told CBS News.
Solange Reyner is a writer and editor for Newsmax. She has more than 15 years in the journalism industry reporting and covering news, sports and politics.
IF YOU READ THE NEWS TODAY, EVEN JOEY (OR, MORE LIKELY HIS PUPPET MASTERS) NOW REALIZES THAT HE HAS ZERO CHANCE AT RE-ELECTION UNLESS HE BEGINS TO FOLLOW PRESIDENT TRUMP'S LEAD ON THE IMMIGRATION ISSUE.
DURING PRESIDENT TRUMP'S FIRST TERM, OUR BORDERS WERE THE MOST SECURE THEY HAD BEEN IN DECADES. WHEN JOEY GOT INTO OFFICE, LIKE A PETULANT CHILD HE REVERSED ALL OF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S IMMIGRATION POLICIES. ALL JOEY HAD TO DO WAS LEAVE PRESIDENT TRUMP'S IMMIGRATION POLICIES IN PLACE AND HE WOULD'VE BEEN CONSIDERED A GREAT SUCCESS (AT LEAST ON THIS ONE ISSUE).
HURRY, JOEY, HURRY! YOU MAY STILL HAVE TIME! HA HA HA.
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
If only our government would take steps to strengthen the border…
If only Repubs would do something, anything, to solve the border crisis.
They are, they're campaigning REALLY hard on the issue... like SUPER hard, because this is the single biggest issue facing our country and it can't wait to be addressed, it needs to be fixed RIGHT NOW down the road, after the elections.
There was a segment on NPR recently talking about things like this. Cops have incentive based promotions as do Sergeants, captains and so forth. There is unwritten rules about what needs to be done. A beat cop won't get promoted if he doesn't arrest people and the Captains won't see promotions, etc if crime rises in their areas.
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I hate taking mortgage applications from people like you. White is someone's race. Hispanic is someone's ethnicity. Ready for me to blow your mind? An Hispanic person can be both Hispanic and White.
You would absolutely have a dumb joke waiting for me when I ask about your gender too.
Ah yes, #fukjoebiden because the GOP refuses to fix the border.
It's a cult.
And of course, like clockwork, it took this story to bring this guy out from whatever rock he's been living under that prevents him from realizing its the republicans who are refusing to fix the border issue.
Ah yes, #fukjoebiden because the GOP refuses to fix the border.
It's a cult.
And of course, like clockwork, it took this story to bring this guy out from whatever rock he's been living under that prevents him from realizing its the republicans who are refusing to fix the border issue.
It such an interesting (in a political sense) topic. Because today it is certainly the republicans doing nothing. And the reality was the country was overwhelmingly with the GOP on this topic recently….and they still find a way to blow it. Cause they worry about Trump above all. In the past history the gop would have gotten the border deal and claimed victory over the president and the dems (and it would have been) and for the American people. But it’s about 1 person. Trump > country, Trump > party, Trump > everyone. Unreal
And of course like clockwork the left are dumb as dumb. Explain why Dementia Joe signed 94 EOs removing everything that kept the border safe. Why for 3 years did this POS demand the border is secure. Lied for 3 years. Suing states and not providing help. Why now is this and issue for this shit POTUS? The brownshirts are following orders from their fake news MSM and their cult they are in. That bill was absolute shit and we all know it. Nice try though. Never trust ANYTHING coming from Chuckie. And they got Glitch to sign on so they can say bipartisan. But Glitch smartened up. And then they say the Border Agents liked the bill. No, just the Union. Not the actual agents. Their cult will kick and scream it's the Rs fault. Taking their marching orders from their cult leaders and fake news MSM. And what the fuck did Kamalalala do? Nothing and nowhere to be seen. She knows better as dumb as she is. This is going to be funny as shit for the next 9 months.
Get your vagina hats out and stock up on your tissues and play-do. Rotten brains is being to nice. The left are the dumbest of the dumb.
FJB!
Can't wait for the LV Sphere in June. (Dead) Can't wait for Wrigley in Aug. And can't wait to vote to save America from this current dementia piece of shit. See ya all on tour. Can't wait for the new album!
Oh ya. Anyone still whipping immigrants on horses? LMFAO!
"WASHINGTON — As conservatives in Congress have blasted the new bipartisan border agreement for not going far enough, the legislation earned a key endorsement on Monday: the labor union that represents U.S. Border Patrol agents.
The National Border Patrol Council — which represents more than 18,000 agents — said the bill would “drop illegal border crossings nationwide and will allow our agents to get back to detecting and apprehending those who want to cross our border illegally and evade apprehension.”
It's a significant statement of support from a group that endorsed former President Donald Trump in 2020 and has repeatedly railed against President Joe Biden’s handling of the border.
“While not perfect, the Border Act of 2024 is a step in the right direction and is far better than the current status quo,” Brandon Judd, president of the council, said in the statement. “This is why the National Border Patrol Council endorses this bill and hopes for its quick passage.”
I mean... it's possible an unreasonable shit poster on a rock band's message board whose position is untethered from reality knows more about this situation than the people trying to protect the border, but I'm going to go ahead and assume otherwise.
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And of course like clockwork the left are dumb as dumb. Explain why Dementia Joe signed 94 EOs removing everything that kept the border safe. Why for 3 years did this POS demand the border is secure. Lied for 3 years. Suing states and not providing help. Why now is this and issue for this shit POTUS? The brownshirts are following orders from their fake news MSM and their cult they are in. That bill was absolute shit and we all know it. Nice try though. Never trust ANYTHING coming from Chuckie. And they got Glitch to sign on so they can say bipartisan. But Glitch smartened up. And then they say the Border Agents liked the bill. No, just the Union. Not the actual agents. Their cult will kick and scream it's the Rs fault. Taking their marching orders from their cult leaders and fake news MSM. And what the fuck did Kamalalala do? Nothing and nowhere to be seen. She knows better as dumb as she is. This is going to be funny as shit for the next 9 months.
Get your vagina hats out and stock up on your tissues and play-do. Rotten brains is being to nice. The left are the dumbest of the dumb.
FJB!
Can't wait for the LV Sphere in June. (Dead) Can't wait for Wrigley in Aug. And can't wait to vote to save America from this current dementia piece of shit. See ya all on tour. Can't wait for the new album!
Oh ya. Anyone still whipping immigrants on horses? LMFAO!
TLDR.
There is a bipartisan bill that maga republicans are completely ignoring because they literally do not want to solve this problem so they can keep getting people like you all riled up.
"WASHINGTON — As conservatives in Congress have blasted the new bipartisan border agreement for not going far enough, the legislation earned a key endorsement on Monday: the labor union that represents U.S. Border Patrol agents.
The National Border Patrol Council — which represents more than 18,000 agents — said the bill would “drop illegal border crossings nationwide and will allow our agents to get back to detecting and apprehending those who want to cross our border illegally and evade apprehension.”
It's a significant statement of support from a group that endorsed former President Donald Trump in 2020 and has repeatedly railed against President Joe Biden’s handling of the border.
“While not perfect, the Border Act of 2024 is a step in the right direction and is far better than the current status quo,” Brandon Judd, president of the council, said in the statement. “This is why the National Border Patrol Council endorses this bill and hopes for its quick passage.”
I mean... it's possible an unreasonable shit poster on a rock band's message board whose position is untethered from reality knows more about this situation than the people trying to protect the border, but I'm going to go ahead and assume otherwise.
Buh, buh, buh it’s the union and not the rank and file that support it because everyone knows the union just wants more membership dues. They don’t represent the rank and file.
LMFAO! You can tell it's an election year. Dementia Joe finds out Trump going to Texas so he immediately schedules to visit TX Thursday. And after a year, this POS finally visits East Palestine. Even though this shitstick is on the beach 4 days a week. I bet he gets the same warm reception he got in OH. Everyone yelling FJB!
Ooh hoo BuT CrImE iS dOwN 'cAuSE I rEaD a FBI rEpOrT!!! Lol!
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So funny when people talk about "dementia Joe" because Biden forgets a few details now and then (so do I, by the way), and yet their hero (45) is more mentally deranged than an orangutan on a cocktail of quaaludes, fentanyl, and GHB. Too friggin' funny.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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Trump and allies planning militarized mass deportations, detention camps
As president, Trump sought to use military planes and bases for deportation. Now, he and his allies are talking about a new effort that current and former officials warn could be impractical and dangerous.
Faced with a surge of migrant families at the U.S.-Mexico border in 2018 and 2019, Donald Trump’s White House discussed ways to more aggressively deploy the resources and the might of the U.S. military.Aides and officials spoke privately about detaining migrants on military bases and flying them out of the country on military planes — ideas that the Pentagon headed off. Throughout his presidency, Trump himself would frequently demand to send troops to the border and catch people crossing.
“He was obsessed with having the military involved,” said a former senior administration official, who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe private discussions.
That approach and unfinished business have taken on renewed significance and urgency as the country confronts another migrant crisis on the U.S.-Mexico border, and as Trump closes in on the Republican presidential nomination. The former president is making immigration a core campaign theme, promoting a proposal for an unprecedented deportation effort if he is returned to power.
Trump pledges that as president he would immediately launch “the largest domestic deportation operation in American history.” As a model, he points to an Eisenhower-era program known as “Operation Wetback,” using a derogatory slur for Mexican migrants. The operation used military tactics to round up and remove migrant workers, sometimes transporting them in dangerous conditions that led to some deaths. Former administration officials and policy experts said staging an even larger operation today would face a bottleneck in detention space — a problem that Trump adviser Stephen Miller and other allies have proposed addressing by building mass deportation camps.
“Americans can expect that immediately upon President Trump’s return to the Oval Office, he will restore all of his prior policies, implement brand new crackdowns that will send shock waves to all the world’s criminal smugglers, and marshal every federal and state power necessary to institute the largest deportation operation in American history,” said Trump campaign spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt in a statement. She added that undocumented immigrants “should not get comfortable because very soon they will be going home.”
Trump has made similar promises and has used inflammatory smears since his 2016 campaign. But he, his aides and allies say a second turn in office would be more effective in operating the levers of the federal bureaucracy and less vulnerable to internal resistance. During his term, former officials said, Trump learned to install more officials at the Department of Homeland Security who would carry out his orders instead of trying to curb his impulses.
Throughout his current campaign, the former president has exerted his influence on the immigration policy debate on several fronts. He pressured congressional Republicans to reject a bipartisan compromise to expand enforcement funding and powers, arguing that it would give the Democrats a political victory and that it was not restrictive enough. He has also escalated his use of dehumanizing language to describe migrants, accusing them of “poisoning the blood of our country” and calling the record unauthorized border crossings an “invasion,” an “open wound” and a source of imminent terrorist attacks.
But his deportation proposal is one part of his emerging platform that experts, current and former government officials and others described as especially alarming, impractical and prone to significant legal and logistical hurdles.
“You’re talking about officers in tactical gear going into communities, being videotaped in the streets, putting kids in car seats, carrying baby formula. Then what do you do with those families?” said Jason Houser, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s chief of staff from January 2022 until March 2023. “Are you going to go into neighborhoods in Philly, New York, Baltimore and start tugging people out of communities? That’s what they want. It puts law enforcement and the communities at risk.”
Reflecting on the ideas Trump and his team discussed during his presidency, Houser said, “Their ideas were psychotic.”
‘The military will be deployed’
Trump’s aides are encouraged by polls showing voters prioritizing immigration and trusting him more than President Biden on the issue. But there is some disagreement in his circles on the specifics.
While advisers agree on border security, building a wall on the southern border and deporting migrants who have committed crimes after entering the country as winning political issues, one adviser expressed concern that promising to deport massive numbers of people who haven’t been convicted of a crime could hurt Trump in a general election campaign. Trump’s language and proposals are already under heavy criticism from the Biden campaign, as well as pro-immigration and civil liberties groups.
“Trump is following the 20th century dictator’s playbook of dehumanizing vulnerable groups in order to isolate them and justify cruelty by the state,” Genevieve Nadeau, a former DHS lawyer, said in a report by the nonpartisan organization Protect Democracy. “He’s backing up his rhetoric by threatening to invoke extreme and novel legal tools to effectuate an agenda of inhumanity on a scale we haven’t seen for generations. We should expect him to follow through on his pledges.”
The Trump campaign has also said he would sign an executive order on his first day in office to withhold passports, Social Security numbers and other government benefits from children of undocumented immigrants born in the United States. The idea of challenging the 14th Amendment’s guarantee of birthright citizenship would be sure to draw a court challenge. The proposal has been raised by Trump and Miller before, but the specific promise of an executive order indicated the campaign has put further effort into fleshing it out.
Some in the Trump campaign have tried to tamp down talk of mass deportations and have become frustrated with some outside allies, the Trump adviser said. But another person close to the campaign said Trump and his team remain in touch with Miller, who has described “large-scale raids” and “throughput facilities.” Trump advisers view Miller as the leading authority on “America First” immigration policy, and he is widely expected to reenter the West Wing if Trump wins in November.
“I don’t care what the hell happens in this world,” Miller said on a Feb. 5 podcast interview with right-wing activist Charlie Kirk. “If President Trump gets reelected, the border’s going to be sealed, the military will be deployed, the National Guard will be activated, and the illegals are going home.”
Republicans frustrated with Biden have increasingly promoted the idea of militarized immigration enforcement. In Texas, Gov. Greg Abbott (R) has deployed thousands of National Guard soldiers to stop crossings along the Rio Grande, where he announced plans Friday to build a military base to house the troops.
Trump and his campaign have offered few details about how he would implement his deportation operation, other than to “use all necessary federal, state, local and military resources.”
The pool of potential deportees is large. There are about 11 million immigrants in the United States without legal status, according to the most recent estimates. Nearly 7 million of those are known to ICE, which maintains a vast database of people eligible for deportation whose asylum claims and immigration cases are still pending.
A smaller subset of that caseload — about 1.3 million people — remain in the United States despite having received a deportation order from an immigration judge. These potential deportees, if taken into custody, are the easiest for the government to send home, because they have already received due process. But the government often doesn’t know where they are.
Beyond those challenges, there are other major logistical and operational obstacles to the kind of mass deportations Trump has promised. The first is available personnel: ICE only has about 6,000 deportation officers nationwide. The amount of time it takes to recruit, hire, screen and train a new deportation officer is about two years, according to current and former ICE officials.
Detention space is also squeezed. The Biden administration is using about 38,000 beds at immigration jails and other facilities that hold migrants awaiting deportation. During the Trump years, the number exceeded 50,000, but never reached the kinds of capacity levels necessary for the kind of mega-deportation system Trump envisions.
Some ICE officials said the agency could find more available beds in county jails. But Trump surrogates have gone further, suggesting they would put migrants in “camps” or “tents.”
“So you go around the country arresting illegal immigrants in large-scale raids, you have to have somewhere to put them,” Miller said in a November podcast interview with Kirk. “So you create this efficiency by having these standing facilities where planes are moving off the runway constantly — probably military aircraft, some existing DHS assets — and that’s how you’re able to scale.”
Miller also suggested using National Guard troops, state police and other federal law enforcement agencies as force multipliers, even sending National Guard troops from Republican-led states into neighboring states governed by Democrats. “If you’re going to go into an unfriendly state like Maryland, well, they would just be Virginia doing the arrest in Maryland,” he said in the November podcast interview.
Such street-level roundups are so resource-intensive that many ICE officials view them as impractical. The operations require officers to locate migrants and surveil them to determine a safe opportunity to make an arrest. Such arrests often depend on the cooperation of local police.
“The most crucial part of any law enforcement effort is not to undermine popular support for that effort, and that means doing it legally, doing it respectfully and doing it properly,” said Andrew Arthur, a former immigration judge who is now at the Center for Immigration Studies, which seeks tighter restrictions.
To arrest and deport families with children, the preparations are even more time-consuming. An operation targeting 20 to 30 families for arrest takes two to three weeks of planning, said Houser, the former ICE chief of staff. For ICE to reach a target of 300,000 to 500,000 deportations per year — a far more modest goal than Trump’s — Houser said the agency would need two to three times as many deportation officers as ICE has.
“You’re talking about building a major logistics apparatus that would still have to meet court and legal requirements for health care and child care,” he said.
ICE officers and staff are burned out by the pace and intensity of their work over the past several years, according to a veteran DHS official who was not authorized to speak to reporters. For other law enforcement agencies, the drain on their resources would come at the expense of other legitimate priorities, the former DHS official said, and the operation would have to be continuous to deter new arrivals.
“It feels shortsighted, stupid and an enormous waste of money,” the official said.
Another problem is so-called “recalcitrant countries” that limit or refuse to take back deportees. Nations such as Venezuela and Cuba are already under U.S. economic sanctions, leaving Washington with reduced leverage to compel them to take more deportation flights.
Even other nations that remain U.S. allies in Latin America set conditions on the number of flights and deportees they’re willing to accept. Passenger manifests have to be sent several days in advance. It’s not as simple as loading hundreds of people into a military transport plane and dropping them off wherever the president wants.
A former senior administration official said Trump would be emboldened in a second term and insist on moving faster than his first administration did. The former president has repeatedly suggested he would act as a “dictator” on “day one” to close the border — sometimes adding that he made this comment in jest.
“We will do that immediately,” Trump said in a campaign video last year. “This invasion will not stand.”
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‘I know it sounds harsh’
Trump’s and Miller’s determination to carry out mass deportations in a second term grew out of frustration with setbacks to their plans while Trump was in power.
In Trump’s first month as president, in 2017, a draft memo obtained by the Associated Press proposed deploying as many as 100,000 National Guard troops to arrest undocumented immigrants throughout the interior of the country. The memo was never implemented, but Trump did sign an executive order directing ICE to detain more unauthorized immigrants, including pregnant women and people without criminal records.
Trump pledged to immediately deport 2 million to 3 million people after his 2016 win but never came close to hitting those targets. At his administration’s high-water mark in 2019, ICE carried out 267,258 deportations and returns, Department of Homeland Security data show.
Trump officials likened the approach to “taking the shackles off,” but it generated a backlash that drove more cities and jurisdictions to adopt sanctuary policies limiting their cooperation with ICE. ICE officials have long preferred to take people into custody from a secure setting such as a jail to avoid the complex planning and adverse publicity of arrests in homes, workplaces or streets.
As the number of people in ICE custody jumped 22 percent in Trump’s first two years, the DHS inspector general uncovered “egregious violations of detention standards,” including inadequate medical care, expired food, lack of recreation, moldy bathrooms and inadequate clothing and hygiene supplies. A separate inspector general’s investigation found “dangerous overcrowding” in an El Paso facility, where a cell built for 25 people held 155.
In June 2018, reporters and human rights activists toured a facility in McAllen, Tex., where children slept under foil sheets surrounded by chain-link fencing, after DHS acknowledged separating children from their parents at the border. Public outrage over an audio clip of a sobbing child forced Trump to halt the practice. DHS later identified 4,227 separated children, 3,147 of whom were reunited with their parent as of November 2023.
Asked in 2023 whether he might reimpose family separation as president, Trump declined to rule it out and defended the policy. “I know it sounds harsh,” he said in a CNN town hall. “When you say to a family that if you come we’re going to break you up, they don’t come. And we can’t afford to have any more.”
In 2019, Trump ordered pre-dawn raids targeting 2,000 families in 10 cities who had received deportation orders, over concerns from top DHS officials about lack of preparation and the effect on children. The administration also changed immigration enforcement rules to expedite deportations of people who had been in the country for less than two years, making it possible to remove them without a hearing in front of an immigration judge.
“You think other countries have judges that give them trials?” Trump said in public remarks in 2018.
As the president’s top adviser on immigration matters, Miller advocated for invoking the Insurrection Act to mobilize the Department of Defense, according to the former officials. Pentagon officials balked at the idea of using military bases and planes, current and former officials recalled, citing concerns of getting mired in an open-ended commitment or compromising troop readiness.
The president himself would often demand to send troops to block the border, according to the former officials. Aides would explain to Trump the lack of budget or legal authority to use the military for immigration, including a law against using the military for domestic law enforcement, according to former national security adviser John Bolton.
“He couldn’t care less,” Bolton said.
Trump was generally more focused on his signature campaign promise to build a wall on the border with Mexico, according to former officials.
“The pressure from the White House was always more about the wall,” a former senior DHS official said. “We didn’t really get significant pressure in the first term on deportations.”
Still, Trump would often say he wanted more deportations and listened to immigration hard-liners, led by Miller, a former senior administration official said. The biggest deterrent, the official said, was limited space to house people while they were awaiting a court proceeding and not enough judges to move the proceedings quickly.
“Every time the hard-liners would say, ‘we need to start arresting them,’ I would say — as I said 50 times — in order to do this, we have to make all these things happen. That was the end of any conversation,” the former senior administration official said. “It’s not an overnight thing.”
Miller reached the conclusion that aggressive immigration enforcement had to be implemented as quickly as possible, without losing time by considering litigation risks, a former DHS official said. During Trump’s first term, immigration advocates and civil liberties groups repeatedly succeeded in halting or narrowing Trump’s policies through court challenges, and he could face similar challenges to a mass deportation operation.
Trump has specifically cited the Eisenhower example and defended its legacy. When CNN’s Jake Tapper noted in 2016 that many people considered it a “shameful chapter in American history,” Trump responded: “Some people do, and some people think it was a very effective chapter. … It was very successful, everyone said. So I mean, that’s the way it is.”
Press reports described the operation in the summer of 1954 as “an all-out war” with a wire-fenced “concentration camp” from which Mexicans were “herded aboard trains.” Others were forcibly marched through miles of rattlesnake-infested deserts or had their heads shaved — ostensibly for hygienic reasons but widely viewed as humiliating, according to historian Juan R. Garcia’s definitive book on the subject. The Red Cross intervened after many braceros, or temporary agricultural workers and laborers, were stranded in the desert, and 88 died of sunstroke, according to Columbia University historian Mae Ngai.
The deportations also used planes, buses and ships, including one built for up to 90 people that was crowded with 500, leading one lawmaker to compare it to a “penal ship.” The use of ships stopped after seven migrants drowned while trying to escape.
The Eisenhower effort “was a one-off,” Ngai said. Trump and his allies “are trying to figure out a way to do that in a sustained way.”
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By Solange Reyner | Wednesday, 21 February 2024 07:02 PM EST
With the nation's border apparatus struggling under the burden of surging illegal traffic, the Biden administration has come under heavy fire for failing to do more on the topic through its first three years. The GOP-led House, which has led the way on those escalating criticisms, even voting last week to impeach the Homeland Security chief, Alejandro Mayorkas.
The U.S. Border Patrol recorded 124,220 encounters between ports of entry along the southwest border in January.
The latest figures reflect a drop in border crossings that's no doubt welcome news for the Biden White House, even if it proves temporary, as immigration looms as one of the biggest issues in this year’s presidential election. Exit polls in recent primaries saw voters identify illegal immigration as the foremost concern.
Meanwhile, the border issue has become intertwined with other hot-button topics, chiefly Washington's efforts to authorize fresh military aid for Ukraine and Israel in their respective wars with Russia and Hamas. Legislation linking the aid to border improvements has foundered in Congress for months, with Biden pressing lawmakers to act even as their attacks on his administration ratchet up..
Now, as the election for president draws ever nearer -- it's nine months away == and Biden facing concerning polls showing him facing formidable opposition from former President Donald Trump in a replay of the 2020 race, -- Biden is bringing the border issue to the fore with a proposed new approach.
Proposed.
Biden is considering using an authority known as 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act between ports of entry. It states: "Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate."
Democrats and Republicans have gone back and forth on immigration regulations to address the burgeoning surge of illegal immigrants with the Senate last week failing to pass a supplemental spending agreement that included aid for Ukraine, Israe,l and Taiwan as well as a border security and immigration package.
A previous version of the Trump administration's so-called "travel ban" was upheld by the Supreme Court, but as CBS News has reported, lower courts blocked the government from using the 212(f) authority to make most migrants ineligible for asylum at the southern border.
It's unclear how Biden might aim to distinguish his effort so his order could better stand up in court. U.S. law gives migrants on American soil the right to request asylum, even in instances where they cross illegally.
Lee Gelernt, an American Civil Liberties Union lawyer who convinced federal judges to halt the Trump administration's asylum ban, said in the CBS report that his group would likely sue the government again if Mr. Biden issues a similar order.
"An executive order denying asylum based on where one enters the country would just be another attempt at the exact policy Trump unsuccessfully tried and will undoubtedly end up in litigation," Gelernt told CBS News.
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DURING PRESIDENT TRUMP'S FIRST TERM, OUR BORDERS WERE THE MOST SECURE THEY HAD BEEN IN DECADES.
WHEN JOEY GOT INTO OFFICE, LIKE A PETULANT CHILD HE REVERSED ALL OF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S IMMIGRATION POLICIES.
ALL JOEY HAD TO DO WAS LEAVE PRESIDENT TRUMP'S IMMIGRATION POLICIES IN PLACE AND HE WOULD'VE BEEN CONSIDERED A GREAT SUCCESS (AT LEAST ON THIS ONE ISSUE).
HURRY, JOEY, HURRY! YOU MAY STILL HAVE TIME! HA HA HA.
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ICE confirms Georgia student murder suspect entered US illegally, was previously arrested in NYC
Jose Ibarra arrested by NYPD in Sept 2023 for child endangerment but released before detainer issued
https://www.foxnews.com/us/ice-confirms-georgia-student-murder-suspect-was-us-illegally-previously-arrested-nyc
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Cops have incentive based promotions as do Sergeants, captains and so forth. There is unwritten rules about what needs to be done. A beat cop won't get promoted if he doesn't arrest people and the Captains won't see promotions, etc if crime rises in their areas.
You would absolutely have a dumb joke waiting for me when I ask about your gender too.
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2014/06/16/321819185/on-the-census-who-checks-hispanic-who-checks-white-and-why
https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/300583/im-a-white-american/p1
It's a cult.
Explain why Dementia Joe signed 94 EOs removing everything that kept the border safe. Why for 3 years did this POS demand the border is secure. Lied for 3 years. Suing states and not providing help. Why now is this and issue for this shit POTUS? The brownshirts are following orders from their fake news MSM and their cult they are in. That bill was absolute shit and we all know it. Nice try though. Never trust ANYTHING coming from Chuckie. And they got Glitch to sign on so they can say bipartisan. But Glitch smartened up. And then they say the Border Agents liked the bill. No, just the Union. Not the actual agents. Their cult will kick and scream it's the Rs fault. Taking their marching orders from their cult leaders and fake news MSM. And what the fuck did Kamalalala do? Nothing and nowhere to be seen. She knows better as dumb as she is. This is going to be funny as shit for the next 9 months.
Get your vagina hats out and stock up on your tissues and play-do. Rotten brains is being to nice. The left are the dumbest of the dumb.
FJB!
Can't wait for the LV Sphere in June. (Dead) Can't wait for Wrigley in Aug. And can't wait to vote to save America from this current dementia piece of shit. See ya all on tour. Can't wait for the new album!
Oh ya. Anyone still whipping immigrants on horses? LMFAO!
Someone forgot to inform the US Border patrol:
"WASHINGTON — As conservatives in Congress have blasted the new bipartisan border agreement for not going far enough, the legislation earned a key endorsement on Monday: the labor union that represents U.S. Border Patrol agents.
The National Border Patrol Council — which represents more than 18,000 agents — said the bill would “drop illegal border crossings nationwide and will allow our agents to get back to detecting and apprehending those who want to cross our border illegally and evade apprehension.”
It's a significant statement of support from a group that endorsed former President Donald Trump in 2020 and has repeatedly railed against President Joe Biden’s handling of the border.
“While not perfect, the Border Act of 2024 is a step in the right direction and is far better than the current status quo,” Brandon Judd, president of the council, said in the statement. “This is why the National Border Patrol Council endorses this bill and hopes for its quick passage.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/new-immigration-bill-senate-bipartisan-border-patrol-endorsement-rcna137354
I mean... it's possible an unreasonable shit poster on a rock band's message board whose position is untethered from reality knows more about this situation than the people trying to protect the border, but I'm going to go ahead and assume otherwise.
There is a bipartisan bill that maga republicans are completely ignoring because they literally do not want to solve this problem so they can keep getting people like you all riled up.
So the question is: why are you for open borders?
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