14 years and counting...

cincybearcat

The Juggler said:

Merkin Baller said:

Ah yes, #fukjoebiden because the GOP refuses to fix the border. 

It's a cult. 

And of course, like clockwork, it took this story to bring this guy out from whatever rock he's been living under that prevents him from realizing its the republicans who are refusing to fix the border issue. 

It such an interesting (in a political sense) topic. Because today it is certainly the republicans doing nothing. And the reality was the country was overwhelmingly with the GOP on this topic recently….and they still find a way to blow it. Cause they worry about Trump above all.  In the past history the gop would have gotten the border deal and claimed victory over the president and the dems (and it would have been) and for the American people. But it’s about 1 person. Trump > country, Trump > party, Trump > everyone. Unreal 

Out of My Mind and Time

And of course like clockwork the left are dumb as dumb. 
Explain why Dementia Joe signed 94 EOs removing everything that kept the border safe. Why for 3 years did this POS demand the border is secure. Lied for 3 years. Suing states and not providing help. Why now is this and issue for this shit POTUS? The brownshirts are following orders from their fake news MSM and their cult they are in. That bill was absolute shit and we all know it. Nice try though. Never trust ANYTHING coming from Chuckie. And they got Glitch to sign on so they can say bipartisan. But Glitch smartened up. And then they say the Border Agents liked the bill. No, just the Union. Not the actual agents. Their cult will kick and scream it's the Rs fault. Taking their marching orders from their cult leaders and fake news MSM. And what the fuck did Kamalalala do? Nothing and nowhere to be seen. She knows better as dumb as she is. This is going to be funny as shit for the next 9 months.

Get your vagina hats out and stock up on your tissues and play-do. Rotten brains is being to nice. The left are the dumbest of the dumb.

FJB!

Can't wait for the LV Sphere in June. (Dead) Can't wait for Wrigley in Aug. And can't wait to vote to save America from this current dementia piece of shit. See ya all on tour. Can't wait for the new album!

Oh ya. Anyone still whipping immigrants on horses? LMFAO!

Merkin Baller

"That bill was absolute shit and we all know it"

Someone forgot to inform the US Border patrol:

"WASHINGTON — As conservatives in Congress have blasted the new bipartisan border agreement for not going far enough, the legislation earned a key endorsement on Monday: the labor union that represents U.S. Border Patrol agents.

The National Border Patrol Council — which represents more than 18,000 agents — said the bill would “drop illegal border crossings nationwide and will allow our agents to get back to detecting and apprehending those who want to cross our border illegally and evade apprehension.”

It's a significant statement of support from a group that endorsed former President Donald Trump in 2020 and has repeatedly railed against President Joe Biden’s handling of the border.

“While not perfect, the Border Act of 2024 is a step in the right direction and is far better than the current status quo,” Brandon Judd, president of the council, said in the statement. “This is why the National Border Patrol Council endorses this bill and hopes for its quick passage.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/new-immigration-bill-senate-bipartisan-border-patrol-endorsement-rcna137354

I mean... it's possible an unreasonable shit poster on a rock band's message board whose position is untethered from reality knows more about this situation than the people trying to protect the border, but I'm going to go ahead and assume otherwise. 

The Juggler

Out of My Mind and Time said:

And of course like clockwork the left are dumb as dumb. 
Explain why Dementia Joe signed 94 EOs removing everything that kept the border safe. Why for 3 years did this POS demand the border is secure. Lied for 3 years. Suing states and not providing help. Why now is this and issue for this shit POTUS? The brownshirts are following orders from their fake news MSM and their cult they are in. That bill was absolute shit and we all know it. Nice try though. Never trust ANYTHING coming from Chuckie. And they got Glitch to sign on so they can say bipartisan. But Glitch smartened up. And then they say the Border Agents liked the bill. No, just the Union. Not the actual agents. Their cult will kick and scream it's the Rs fault. Taking their marching orders from their cult leaders and fake news MSM. And what the fuck did Kamalalala do? Nothing and nowhere to be seen. She knows better as dumb as she is. This is going to be funny as shit for the next 9 months.

Get your vagina hats out and stock up on your tissues and play-do. Rotten brains is being to nice. The left are the dumbest of the dumb.

FJB!

Can't wait for the LV Sphere in June. (Dead) Can't wait for Wrigley in Aug. And can't wait to vote to save America from this current dementia piece of shit. See ya all on tour. Can't wait for the new album!

Oh ya. Anyone still whipping immigrants on horses? LMFAO!

TLDR.

There is a bipartisan bill that maga republicans are completely ignoring because they literally do not want to solve this problem so they can keep getting people like you all riled up. 

So the question is: why are you for open borders?

Halifax2TheMax

Merkin Baller said:

"That bill was absolute shit and we all know it"

Someone forgot to inform the US Border patrol:

"WASHINGTON — As conservatives in Congress have blasted the new bipartisan border agreement for not going far enough, the legislation earned a key endorsement on Monday: the labor union that represents U.S. Border Patrol agents.

The National Border Patrol Council — which represents more than 18,000 agents — said the bill would “drop illegal border crossings nationwide and will allow our agents to get back to detecting and apprehending those who want to cross our border illegally and evade apprehension.”

It's a significant statement of support from a group that endorsed former President Donald Trump in 2020 and has repeatedly railed against President Joe Biden’s handling of the border.

“While not perfect, the Border Act of 2024 is a step in the right direction and is far better than the current status quo,” Brandon Judd, president of the council, said in the statement. “This is why the National Border Patrol Council endorses this bill and hopes for its quick passage.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/new-immigration-bill-senate-bipartisan-border-patrol-endorsement-rcna137354

I mean... it's possible an unreasonable shit poster on a rock band's message board whose position is untethered from reality knows more about this situation than the people trying to protect the border, but I'm going to go ahead and assume otherwise. 

Buh, buh, buh it’s the union and not the rank and file that support it because everyone knows the union just wants more membership dues. They don’t represent the rank and file.

Out of My Mind and Time

LMFAO! You can tell it's an election year. Dementia Joe finds out Trump going to Texas so he immediately schedules to visit TX Thursday.  And after a year, this POS finally visits East Palestine. Even though this shitstick is on the beach 4 days a week. I bet he gets the same warm reception he got in OH. Everyone yelling FJB! 

Gern Blansten

I feel dirty

The Juggler

Gern Blansten said:

I feel dirty

I feel dumber. 

Out of My Mind and Time

Ooh hoo BuT CrImE iS dOwN 'cAuSE I rEaD a FBI rEpOrT!!! Lol!

brianlux

So funny when people talk about "dementia Joe" because Biden forgets a few details now and then (so do I, by the way), and yet their hero (45) is more mentally deranged than an orangutan on a cocktail of quaaludes, fentanyl, and GHB.  Too friggin' funny.

Merkin Baller

brianlux said:

So funny when people talk about "dementia Joe" because Biden forgets a few details now and then (so do I, by the way), and yet their hero (45) is more mentally deranged than an orangutan on a cocktail of quaaludes, fentanyl, and GHB.  Too friggin' funny.

It couldn't be any less serious of a position. 

Halifax2TheMax

Out of My Mind and Time said:

Ooh hoo BuT CrImE iS dOwN 'cAuSE I rEaD a FBI rEpOrT!!! Lol!

No, it’s up because I read it on the socials.

The Juggler

Halifax2TheMax said:

Out of My Mind and Time said:

Ooh hoo BuT CrImE iS dOwN 'cAuSE I rEaD a FBI rEpOrT!!! Lol!

No, it’s up because I read it on the socials.

mickeyrat

gift article....

https://wapo.st/3OXqTnC 

The economy is roaring. Immigration is a key reason.
By Rachel Siegel, Lauren Kaori Gurley and Meryl Kornfield
February 27, 2024 at 11:39 ET
Immigration has propelled the U.S. job market further than just about anyone expected, helping cement the country’s economic rebound from the pandemic as the most robust in the world.
That momentum picked up aggressively over the past year. About 50 percent of the labor market’s extraordinary recent growth came from foreign-born workers between January 2023 and January 2024, according to an Economic Policy Institute analysis of federal data. And even before that, by the middle of 2022, the foreign-born labor force had grown so fast that it closed the labor force gap created by the pandemic, according to research from the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco.
Immigrant workers also recovered much faster than native-born workers from the pandemic’s disruptions, and many saw some of the largest wage gains in industries eager to hire. Economists and labor experts say the surge in employment was ultimately key to solving unprecedented gaps in the economy that threatened the country’s ability to recover from prolonged shutdowns.
“Immigration has not slowed. It has just been absolutely astronomical,” said Pia Orrenius, vice president and senior economist at the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas. “And that’s been instrumental. You can’t grow like this with just the native workforce. It’s not possible.”
[Trump vs. Biden on immigration: 12 charts comparing U.S. border security]
Yet immigration remains an intensely polarizing issue in American politics. Fresh survey data from Gallup showed Americans now cite immigration as the country’s top problem, surpassing inflation, the economy and issues with government. A record number of migrants have crossed the southern border since President Biden took office, with apprehensions topping 2 million for the second straight year in fiscal 2023, among the highest in U.S. history. Cities like New York, Chicago and Denver have struggled to keep up with busloads of immigrants sent from Texas who are overwhelming local shelters.

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FiveBelow

Total border encounters over the last 2 administrations per CBP:

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics

Fiscal Year runs October 1 - September 30

2017 526,901 2018 683,178 2019 1,148,024 2020 646,822 = 3,004,925

2021 1,956,519 2022 2,766,582 2023 3,201,144 2024 1,231,213 (7 months remain) = 9,155,458

Were there any changes in 2021 that could be to blame for the influx we've seen since? If so, who executed them, and would you consider these changes a success given the current situation? You know, for the sake of objectivity and all. I'm glad team blue's newfound border interest has seemingly made their loyalists forget the previous 3+ years of them mocking and downplaying our border issues, but to me this feels more like an attempt to sweep away culpability and grasp for votes than anything else. If that's the case, is anyone truly surprised by how team red is playing this? This is politics after all, the peoples best interests will always take a back seat to the parties. It's fascinating to watch how quickly viewpoints shift when the only change is the politicians so many swoon for changing their tune. The election cycle fuckery has only begun in this two-party joke. The fact team blue isn't willing to admit Biden’s fuck up after 3 years of ignorance, coupled with team red not immediately seizing the opportunity to fund the border says it all. Very serious people indeed, we should all be so proud.

Out of My Mind and Time

Merkin Baller

FiveBelow said:

Total border encounters over the last 2 administrations per CBP:

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics

Fiscal Year runs October 1 - September 30

2017 526,901 2018 683,178 2019 1,148,024 2020 646,822 = 3,004,925

2021 1,956,519 2022 2,766,582 2023 3,201,144 2024 1,231,213 (7 months remain) = 9,155,458

Were there any changes in 2021 that could be to blame for the influx we've seen since? If so, who executed them, and would you consider these changes a success given the current situation? You know, for the sake of objectivity and all. I'm glad team blue's newfound border interest has seemingly made their loyalists forget the previous 3+ years of them mocking and downplaying our border issues, but to me this feels more like an attempt to sweep away culpability and grasp for votes than anything else. If that's the case, is anyone truly surprised by how team red is playing this? This is politics after all, the peoples best interests will always take a back seat to the parties. It's fascinating to watch how quickly viewpoints shift when the only change is the politicians so many swoon for changing their tune. The election cycle fuckery has only begun in this two-party joke. The fact team blue isn't willing to admit Biden’s fuck up after 3 years of ignorance, coupled with team red not immediately seizing the opportunity to fund the border says it all. Very serious people indeed, we should all be so proud.

Your position here is that democrats negotiated this bill to avoid culpability and get votes? 

They didn't work this deal because the GOP tied Ukraine funding to it? 

FiveBelow

Merkin Baller said:

FiveBelow said:

Total border encounters over the last 2 administrations per CBP:

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics

Fiscal Year runs October 1 - September 30

2017 526,901 2018 683,178 2019 1,148,024 2020 646,822 = 3,004,925

2021 1,956,519 2022 2,766,582 2023 3,201,144 2024 1,231,213 (7 months remain) = 9,155,458

Were there any changes in 2021 that could be to blame for the influx we've seen since? If so, who executed them, and would you consider these changes a success given the current situation? You know, for the sake of objectivity and all. I'm glad team blue's newfound border interest has seemingly made their loyalists forget the previous 3+ years of them mocking and downplaying our border issues, but to me this feels more like an attempt to sweep away culpability and grasp for votes than anything else. If that's the case, is anyone truly surprised by how team red is playing this? This is politics after all, the peoples best interests will always take a back seat to the parties. It's fascinating to watch how quickly viewpoints shift when the only change is the politicians so many swoon for changing their tune. The election cycle fuckery has only begun in this two-party joke. The fact team blue isn't willing to admit Biden’s fuck up after 3 years of ignorance, coupled with team red not immediately seizing the opportunity to fund the border says it all. Very serious people indeed, we should all be so proud.

Your position here is that democrats negotiated this bill to avoid culpability and get votes? 

They didn't work this deal because the GOP tied Ukraine funding to it? 

The border being a priority are the optics they're after, they know it's a voting issue, and this is an election year. Nobody seems to be talking about who amplified the issue, but rather who is stalling it. The fact the "border" bill is tied to anything other than the border is just another reason I can't take our government serious. Seems we're more interested in funding overseas chaos than anything else.

Merkin Baller

FiveBelow said:

Merkin Baller said:

FiveBelow said:

Total border encounters over the last 2 administrations per CBP:

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics

Fiscal Year runs October 1 - September 30

2017 526,901 2018 683,178 2019 1,148,024 2020 646,822 = 3,004,925

2021 1,956,519 2022 2,766,582 2023 3,201,144 2024 1,231,213 (7 months remain) = 9,155,458

Were there any changes in 2021 that could be to blame for the influx we've seen since? If so, who executed them, and would you consider these changes a success given the current situation? You know, for the sake of objectivity and all. I'm glad team blue's newfound border interest has seemingly made their loyalists forget the previous 3+ years of them mocking and downplaying our border issues, but to me this feels more like an attempt to sweep away culpability and grasp for votes than anything else. If that's the case, is anyone truly surprised by how team red is playing this? This is politics after all, the peoples best interests will always take a back seat to the parties. It's fascinating to watch how quickly viewpoints shift when the only change is the politicians so many swoon for changing their tune. The election cycle fuckery has only begun in this two-party joke. The fact team blue isn't willing to admit Biden’s fuck up after 3 years of ignorance, coupled with team red not immediately seizing the opportunity to fund the border says it all. Very serious people indeed, we should all be so proud.

Your position here is that democrats negotiated this bill to avoid culpability and get votes? 

They didn't work this deal because the GOP tied Ukraine funding to it? 

The border being a priority are the optics they're after, they know it's a voting issue, and this is an election year. Nobody seems to be talking about who amplified the issue, but rather who is stalling it. The fact the "border" bill is tied to anything other than the border is just another reason I can't take our government serious. Seems we're more interested in funding overseas chaos than anything else.

By all means, let’s talk about who amplified the issue, and how. 

FiveBelow

Merkin Baller said:

FiveBelow said:

Merkin Baller said:

FiveBelow said:

Total border encounters over the last 2 administrations per CBP:

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics

Fiscal Year runs October 1 - September 30

2017 526,901 2018 683,178 2019 1,148,024 2020 646,822 = 3,004,925

2021 1,956,519 2022 2,766,582 2023 3,201,144 2024 1,231,213 (7 months remain) = 9,155,458

Were there any changes in 2021 that could be to blame for the influx we've seen since? If so, who executed them, and would you consider these changes a success given the current situation? You know, for the sake of objectivity and all. I'm glad team blue's newfound border interest has seemingly made their loyalists forget the previous 3+ years of them mocking and downplaying our border issues, but to me this feels more like an attempt to sweep away culpability and grasp for votes than anything else. If that's the case, is anyone truly surprised by how team red is playing this? This is politics after all, the peoples best interests will always take a back seat to the parties. It's fascinating to watch how quickly viewpoints shift when the only change is the politicians so many swoon for changing their tune. The election cycle fuckery has only begun in this two-party joke. The fact team blue isn't willing to admit Biden’s fuck up after 3 years of ignorance, coupled with team red not immediately seizing the opportunity to fund the border says it all. Very serious people indeed, we should all be so proud.

Your position here is that democrats negotiated this bill to avoid culpability and get votes? 

They didn't work this deal because the GOP tied Ukraine funding to it? 

The border being a priority are the optics they're after, they know it's a voting issue, and this is an election year. Nobody seems to be talking about who amplified the issue, but rather who is stalling it. The fact the "border" bill is tied to anything other than the border is just another reason I can't take our government serious. Seems we're more interested in funding overseas chaos than anything else.

By all means, let’s talk about who amplified the issue, and how. 

A good place to start is answering the questions I asked in my original post. I don’t put much stock in what politicians and their followers who scream all day on the internet SAY. I’m talking about policy, and its real world effects. To ignore the cause of the issues we’re facing isn’t my interest. Our borders are inundated for a reason. How did it come to a point where one side did a 180 on the issue after reassuring everyone there was no issue for the past 3 years?