nope.
better.
much better, overall.
my # is 257something....joined in 2002. first show in 2003. i've seen them every year since. granted, many shows i attended were GA - europe & irving plaza. couple charity shows thus TM/10c ticketing such as VFC and robin hood. also a few shows i shared tix with better 10c #s than mine. however, that said....my seats when i use my own #, which Is the norm for the vast majority of my shows (30).......consistently improved. now, i am not talking amazingly different, but better. my MSG seats in 2008 much better than my MSG seats in 2003. and when i have traveled to other cities on my #, even BETTER seats. it is quite rare for me to be on the floor, but it has happened, 3x on my #, anywhere from 10th row to 24th. usually i am about mid-way back and up a level or 2 off the floor - which i actually prefer b/c i am short and i like to see - and it has been pretty consistent in that sense all these years. we'll see where my 10c # score this year for the MSG shows.
i will say tho, i think 2003 was definitely a *big* year....and members who saw shows earlier probably see a marked difference. lots of changes to the system, more people in the 10c, less shows overall...definitely amps the demand, and sure the possibility of more lower #ed people being ahead of you. personally, i think the lottery makes a negligible difference for us all - and is AWESOME for those who win - so well worth it staying put. also, it's such a crapshoot even scoring 10c tix, so that might actully level the playing field somewhat, b/c i am sure just as many lower #ed members get shut out of 10c tix as higher #s....so it could work in your favor.
anyhoo...i'll let ya know after the MSG shows....b/c that'll be 6 shows, 3 years, same venue and 10c #.
My number is 253,xxx so I am right near the OP in seniority, and in my case my seats have gotten better over the years.
2003- 6 shows, all around the same place-back of the first section of seating (all but 1 amphitheaters, the only arena waaayyy back on the floor, 40 rows or so).
2004-vfc, not 10c
2006-only went to one show, and it was Vegas. was on the side, 2nd section over
2008-WPB-18 rows back in the first section (approx 8-10 rows closer than '03)
Tampa- 1st section side stage 8th row (same arena where I was 40th row floor in '03, these seats were much better in my opinion)
2009-Chicago 2-first section side stage 9th row
2010-KC row 23 dead center floor
StL 1st section side stage row 6 (again, like these better than floor night before-yes, I am under 6')
I see an improvement from row 40 on floor to row 23, and 8-10 rows closer at same amphitheater.
I suppose a debate as to which seats are better-halfway back on floor to 1st section on the side-are better could influence someone's view on whether they have gotten better seats over the years or not.
Also, I recently started a thread about this, and seemed to get a lot of responses of people experiencing the same as me, I get Stone's side every time, literally, no exaggeration- at arena shows where I get first section on the side. Some people said they get Mike's side every time. This is something I believe is pretty interesting. I love the seats, they give a great view, but it seems weird that so many people confirmed that they always get the same side, whichever side that may be.
As many have said tours are shorter and more fans are traveling to multiple shows.
Over the past several years my husband and I have been lucky enough to see numerous shows and recognize many familiar faces that often surround us. Like clockwork again this tour we were next to or very near those same people.
We alternated between Mike and Stones side every night for the 4 shows.
Personally I thought my seats were great this time around and I was only on the floor for one show.
I also appreciate that security did a great job at all the venues we were at.
Without the lottery I would never have the hopes of front row myself........
One day I will win it at least I can dream lol
“This is a ah another request fulfillment. If none of the other of you like it at least one guy does. Actually it’s a girl, she’s right back there.”
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I think they should go back to 1 show per tour or maybe one preferred show per tour where you're only competing with people who have designated that show their preferred as well. If its not your preferred show it would go by seniority behind the preferred members. Does that make sense?
speedy norm have it right
smaller tours mean less shows
less shows mean more members trying for each each show-and a greater chance that someone with a lower number is at your show
Really, thats all there is too it IMHO.
I dont think the lottery makes that much of a difference-except for those people that were regularly seated in the first 10 rows.
That being said, my seats have generally improved each tour-except for philly, I was up higher on the wings than usual-which was because there were more members with lower numbers at those shows.
I've been on the floor for two shows and about 20 rowsback each time and another time on the side of the stage. The floor sucked for me b/c I'm only 5'6 so it's hard to see. I love being on the side. I would like to see the option of floor or lover bowl. Dave Matthews does that for their shows and it's great. I'm about 10 rows up on the side and have a great view. I just like having to option of floor or side. That's all for now.
for once, I'd like to see someone not put XXX at the end of their number :wtf:
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Mine have gotten better (best was in 2006 Santa Barbara though!). Except in 2009 I was on the floor waaaaaaay back for 2 shows and it is hard when you are short as others have said. LUCKILY---they were both at the end of the row, center aisle.
EDIT: Worst seats EVER with 10C tix was the blocking at Irvine!!!! So yeah---DON"T go back to blocking.
So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
Member 1503X1---i'm sitting in the balcony in Boston on Monday. (cant wait!)
So when Ten Club tells you they reserve the best seats in the house...believe it! Becuase if you get shut out of Ten Club tickets your seats rapidly get much much worse, and you pay more fee's!
BTW this is not the 1st time I have been shut out of a home town show, I have experience with Balcony and crappy Loge seating.
I will take slowly worse seating (whatever the reason) with the best seats in the house any day.
Ive been a member since '96 (16xxx3) and my seats on average have gotten worse. But, there still good seats. The block system was terrible. Sitting on line (for hours) knowing that each person ahead of you it knocking your seat back. Like someone posted, it's nice to show up right before the opener, pick up tix, and walk in. To be redundant, fewer shows, more travelers, more seniority at every show. From '98-'03 I could count on being floor anywhere from rows 7 to 15. Now Im lucky to get row 15 and Im rountinely 20-25 rows back or Im in the wings. Doesnt matter though. Good seats regardless.
Ten/VHC Tickets using membership #139,XXX
1995 - Seats were General Admission at San Diego Sports Arena. So, it was fend for yourself.
1998 - First of the seated shows. Third row at COX Arena SDSU.
2001 - Failed to renew, missed Ten/VHC Tix.
2003 - Did not use because a friend had a lower number.
2006 - Typically, Row 12 to 14 in San Diego and Los Angeles. Third row in Santa Barbara, General Admission in San Francisco.
2009 - Third Row, Stage Left Riser in Los Angeles, Night One.
...
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
Yes and it sucks when you live in a big PJ city like Boston. I have always wanted some sort of a "home court advantage " system. I have # 150xxx.....In 1998 I sat dead center second row, but now I am consistantly around the 17th row or so. Not complaining, but I know when I am at a Boston show those 15 or so rows in front are not filled with Boston people. But the system they have now works, compared to some of the other ways except I have been shut out of 10c tickets twice on the online system. I wish it was still done by mail. They should raise your membership dues by a few bucks to pay for a better server...
Unreleated, but I wonder what my "real 10c number" is. Meaning even though im 150xxx how many of those low numbers no longer are members
Hartford 96
Mansfield 98 x 2
Mansfield 00 x2
Mansfield 03 x 3
Boston 04 VFC x 2
Hartford 06
Boston 06 x 2
Hartford 08
Mansfield 08 x 2
EV Boston 08 x 2
Hartford 10
Boston 10
EV Providence 11
EV Boston 11
EV Hartford 11
Worcester 13 x 2
Hartford 13
Buffalo 13
Baltimore 13
Fenway 2016 x 2
Hot Stove 2017 Fenway 2018 x 2
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better.
much better, overall.
my # is 257something....joined in 2002. first show in 2003. i've seen them every year since. granted, many shows i attended were GA - europe & irving plaza. couple charity shows thus TM/10c ticketing such as VFC and robin hood. also a few shows i shared tix with better 10c #s than mine. however, that said....my seats when i use my own #, which Is the norm for the vast majority of my shows (30).......consistently improved. now, i am not talking amazingly different, but better. my MSG seats in 2008 much better than my MSG seats in 2003. and when i have traveled to other cities on my #, even BETTER seats. it is quite rare for me to be on the floor, but it has happened, 3x on my #, anywhere from 10th row to 24th. usually i am about mid-way back and up a level or 2 off the floor - which i actually prefer b/c i am short and i like to see
i will say tho, i think 2003 was definitely a *big* year....and members who saw shows earlier probably see a marked difference. lots of changes to the system, more people in the 10c, less shows overall...definitely amps the demand, and sure the possibility of more lower #ed people being ahead of you. personally, i think the lottery makes a negligible difference for us all - and is AWESOME for those who win - so well worth it staying put. also, it's such a crapshoot even scoring 10c tix, so that might actully level the playing field somewhat, b/c i am sure just as many lower #ed members get shut out of 10c tix as higher #s....so it could work in your favor.
anyhoo...i'll let ya know after the MSG shows....b/c that'll be 6 shows, 3 years, same venue and 10c #.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
2003- 6 shows, all around the same place-back of the first section of seating (all but 1 amphitheaters, the only arena waaayyy back on the floor, 40 rows or so).
2004-vfc, not 10c
2006-only went to one show, and it was Vegas. was on the side, 2nd section over
2008-WPB-18 rows back in the first section (approx 8-10 rows closer than '03)
Tampa- 1st section side stage 8th row (same arena where I was 40th row floor in '03, these seats were much better in my opinion)
2009-Chicago 2-first section side stage 9th row
2010-KC row 23 dead center floor
StL 1st section side stage row 6 (again, like these better than floor night before-yes, I am under 6')
I see an improvement from row 40 on floor to row 23, and 8-10 rows closer at same amphitheater.
I suppose a debate as to which seats are better-halfway back on floor to 1st section on the side-are better could influence someone's view on whether they have gotten better seats over the years or not.
Also, I recently started a thread about this, and seemed to get a lot of responses of people experiencing the same as me, I get Stone's side every time, literally, no exaggeration- at arena shows where I get first section on the side. Some people said they get Mike's side every time. This is something I believe is pretty interesting. I love the seats, they give a great view, but it seems weird that so many people confirmed that they always get the same side, whichever side that may be.
Over the past several years my husband and I have been lucky enough to see numerous shows and recognize many familiar faces that often surround us. Like clockwork again this tour we were next to or very near those same people.
We alternated between Mike and Stones side every night for the 4 shows.
Personally I thought my seats were great this time around and I was only on the floor for one show.
I also appreciate that security did a great job at all the venues we were at.
Without the lottery I would never have the hopes of front row myself........
One day I will win it
SMILE Eddie Vedder Cleveland 06.....
169xxx here. 4th row in 2000. 13th row in 2010.
1998 - 08/22
2000 - 09/05_10/05
2003 - 04/25_4/26_05/02_05/03_06/28
2005 - 09/13_09/19
2006 - 05/10
e06/08/09v
2010 - 05/10
e06/16/11v
e06/26/11v
2011 - 09/12_09/15
2012 - 09/22
2013 - 07/16_07/19_10/12
2016 - 05/01_05/02_05/10
2018 - 09/02
smaller tours mean less shows
less shows mean more members trying for each each show-and a greater chance that someone with a lower number is at your show
Really, thats all there is too it IMHO.
I dont think the lottery makes that much of a difference-except for those people that were regularly seated in the first 10 rows.
That being said, my seats have generally improved each tour-except for philly, I was up higher on the wings than usual-which was because there were more members with lower numbers at those shows.
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
mostly b/c i honestly don't remember the last 3 digits..i'd have to look it up and i am far too lazy for that.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
Mine have gotten better (best was in 2006 Santa Barbara though!). Except in 2009 I was on the floor waaaaaaay back for 2 shows and it is hard when you are short as others have said. LUCKILY---they were both at the end of the row, center aisle.
EDIT: Worst seats EVER with 10C tix was the blocking at Irvine!!!! So yeah---DON"T go back to blocking.
Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
So when Ten Club tells you they reserve the best seats in the house...believe it!
Becuase if you get shut out of Ten Club tickets your seats rapidly get much much worse, and you pay more fee's!
BTW this is not the 1st time I have been shut out of a home town show, I have experience with Balcony and crappy Loge seating.
I will take slowly worse seating (whatever the reason) with the best seats in the house any day.
1995 - Seats were General Admission at San Diego Sports Arena. So, it was fend for yourself.
1998 - First of the seated shows. Third row at COX Arena SDSU.
2001 - Failed to renew, missed Ten/VHC Tix.
2003 - Did not use because a friend had a lower number.
2006 - Typically, Row 12 to 14 in San Diego and Los Angeles. Third row in Santa Barbara, General Admission in San Francisco.
2009 - Third Row, Stage Left Riser in Los Angeles, Night One.
...
Hail, Hail!!!
Unreleated, but I wonder what my "real 10c number" is. Meaning even though im 150xxx how many of those low numbers no longer are members
Mansfield 98 x 2
Mansfield 00 x2
Mansfield 03 x 3
Boston 04 VFC x 2
Hartford 06
Boston 06 x 2
Hartford 08
Mansfield 08 x 2
EV Boston 08 x 2
Hartford 10
Boston 10
EV Providence 11
EV Boston 11
EV Hartford 11
Worcester 13 x 2
Hartford 13
Buffalo 13
Baltimore 13
Fenway 2016 x 2
Hot Stove 2017
Fenway 2018 x 2