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Are your 10C seats slowly getting worse? I think mine are.
I've been a member since either 2001 or 2002. I went to my first show on 10C seats in 2003. Seats were on the side in the 5th row up. Member number is 254xxx. Since then, I've kept my membership current continually and been to 4 other shows.
Now you would think that you would slowly get better seats as members ahead of you let theirs lapse or whatever, but those seats to the first show were the best ones I've had.
I'll throw out the VFC show seats because I know that was a different process, but I've been to 2 other arena shows. At the first, I was halfway up the side (lower arena) and the second I was at the top of the side (lower arena).
I'm not complaining, but I'm just curious as to why my seats don't slowly improve?
I guess the lottery is an explanation, but since my number is 254xxx it shouldn't have a 100% impact.
Now you would think that you would slowly get better seats as members ahead of you let theirs lapse or whatever, but those seats to the first show were the best ones I've had.
I'll throw out the VFC show seats because I know that was a different process, but I've been to 2 other arena shows. At the first, I was halfway up the side (lower arena) and the second I was at the top of the side (lower arena).
I'm not complaining, but I'm just curious as to why my seats don't slowly improve?
I guess the lottery is an explanation, but since my number is 254xxx it shouldn't have a 100% impact.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
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And the lottery does push everyone who doesn't win and doesn't have seats in rows 3-8, back 4 rows.
Since then, the tours have become much shorter and smaller. This creates more fan club members at each show, due to lack of choices, thus your seats WOULD actually be getting worse.
And in 2008 the lottery began so everyone moved back 4 rows
1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
2022: Nashville
2023: Ft. Worth II
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
1)The lower your number, the less people that are actually ahead of you and so less people to forget to renew their membership. It is harder to move up than for people with higher numbers
2)The lottery definately plays a part in it.
Not 100% true. You only move back accordingly for everyone with a higher number than you who wins the lottery. It's not an automatic 4 rows.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Yeah, I'm in the SE too. I made trips to Cincy, Indy, Columbus and Toledo since 2004. In 2006 I thought for sure they would announce more shows closer, but nothing - so I hadn't seen them since Cincy in 2006.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Well, that's pretty insightful.
Time for your meds again, eh?
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I wish the tickets would move up each tour, and it is a bit peculiar to me, but im not one to complain about 15th row at a pj show (assuming it's not the floor of course :P )
1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
2022: Nashville
2023: Ft. Worth II
oh and yes please play the South!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skQGve3XksU
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
it's funny how we all have this weird sense of entitlement! - I'll admit it, I'm a bit there with that - my friend won the lottery and ended up l sitting further back than he would have if the was no lottery
but there could be no 10c seating at all
in the end we all leave over the moon no matter where we sat
(I'm totally talking out of the side of my face here, I bitch until the lights go down)
Not if someone wins who would have been ahead of me anyway. The only way I move back is one seat for everyone who has a number greater than 254xxx who wins.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I don't have a sense of entitlement at all. Just wondering why something that should be improving seems to be getting worse.
If it gets much worse, it may make sense to just find other means to purchasing them.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
everyone is automatically moved back two rows.
Though incredibly unlikely, if every lottery winner at a show he attends is 253,xxx and below, the lottery hasn't affected him at all.
Probaly for a mid range number like his the lottery actually will bump him back either 2 or 3 rows on average, statistically speaking, but theoretically it could bump him 4 full rows or not affect his location at all, and anything in between.
but your 10C number will not secure you the first two rows unless you win the lottery. I understand what you are saying, but if you had a number that usually put you in the first two rows you have been moved back.
Were they at the same venue? Was he in the same section but just a number of rows apart? We'll also never know how the lottery affected his seats. As he mentioned, he should only move back based on how many higher than 254xxx moved up since he'll always be behind row 10.
I'm 204xxx. Last year at Philly, I was lowers for shows 3 & 4 and was one section further away for Sat night. I was next to someone on Friday had two extra pairs of 10 clubbers between us on Sat. I all comes down to which members bought for that show and how many tickets were alotted for the 10c. the ticket allotment can be different from venue to venue
I really liked the fact that I could only get one pair of 10c tickets. Maybe some kind of limitation like that, for example, X-number per tour or something, would help. I feel for the young people who are great fans but just young. No less fans. Doomed to poor seating. Sort of age based discrimination. It is a tough call because loyalty should also be rewarded. I am thankful that 10c listens and tries different things.
For these past shows, Col, Indy, Cle, I was row 12, 16 and 12 respectively. Being a row 8'er, and add the 2 front lottery rows would put me at row 10, add 9/10 lottery and I am at row 12. No problem. I get it and that's fine. I did however think that over time, the seats would get a little better. People must be coming out of the woodwork or something else. Is row 3/4 really ALL 10club?
My brother is 100###, had row 2 dead center in both Col and Cle for the last 2 tours. This time around, he was row 5 more on the side then the center. His 2nd row seats were arguably the top 10 best seats in the house as I would argue 8-10 seats non-dead center front wow would be considered "worse" than 2nd row dead center.
Neither here nor there, but it is proof that something different happened with this tour. Probably a combination of a few things, but we'll never really know for sure.
Kevin
I think that was one of the last tours that limited the number of shows you could go to. Solution. Go back to that. The more people with a 10c number higher than you who have the free time and or money to travel EVERYWHERE are taking the same good seat at every show. I'm in the northeast...with kids and family. So I'm basically limited to one or two shows per tour. So I'm getting bumped back. Sorry needed to vent
but the way i see it is your tix shouldnt be getting that much worse just cause theres more members or the lottery..the fact is just cause theres more members doesnt mean more 10c is going there still that allotted amount that can only get tix
and one of the biggest factors people forget about when it comes to where your seats are at is who is actually getting tix if a bunch of extremely low numbered members are getting tix of course thats going to set other people back
thats how i see it i could be wrong but i dont think its getting worse its just a matter of these things plus the fact with smaller tours more people are traveling to shows