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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,800
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Betts Goes to the Dodgers?  Suck it @Wobbie
    Doyers suck

    They suck all day long.
    That much talent.
    That salary

    Nothing to show for it.

    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    F Me In The Brain said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Betts Goes to the Dodgers?  Suck it @Wobbie
    Doyers suck

    They suck all day long.
    That much talent.
    That salary

    Nothing to show for it.

    Wasn't everyone bitching about the Astros cheating against them?
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,516
    Just an absolutely atrocious trade. The Red Sox are garbage, and their fans should be rioting. I can't wait for these new CBA negotiations.
  • Ernie Vedder
    Ernie Vedder Redlands, CA Posts: 2,269
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Betts Goes to the Dodgers?  Suck it @Wobbie
    :lol:
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,022
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Just an absolutely atrocious trade. The Red Sox are garbage, and their fans should be rioting. I can't wait for these new CBA negotiations.
    It is a disgrace
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    Dodgers are Mr. Burns softball team.
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,800
    tempo_n_groove said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Betts Goes to the Dodgers?  Suck it @Wobbie
    Doyers suck

    They suck all day long.
    That much talent.
    That salary

    Nothing to show for it.

    Wasn't everyone bitching about the Astros cheating against them?
    The Astros being cheaters doesn't change my statement.  Kirk Gibson part of their last championship team?
    :lol: 
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • lmckenney24
    lmckenney24 Posts: 2,100
    edited February 2020
    Fuck, I dont ever post on this thread. But I am fucking disgusted at this Mookie trade. Complete horse shit.

    I get that the Sox were unlikely to resign him, but dumping one of the best players in the game for a minimal return is hard to support.
    Post edited by lmckenney24 on
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,516
    If anyone ever hears another analyst say the Yankees, Dodgers, and Red Sox are on another level they can immediately be told to shut up. The Red Sox are obviously no Dodgers, let alone even remotely close to the Yankees.
  • lmckenney24
    lmckenney24 Posts: 2,100
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    If anyone ever hears another analyst say the Yankees, Dodgers, and Red Sox are on another level they can immediately be told to shut up. The Red Sox are obviously no Dodgers, let alone even remotely close to the Yankees.
    My buddy just said the same thing. From a payroll perspective, you're spot on. 
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,851
    I always say this whenever something in the MLB turns me off (and Im no Red Sox fan)...

    They really need to revamp the entire economic system and structure of the sport or it will go the way of Horse Racing and Boxing in the next 40 years.



    You draft and develop a Mookie Betts (or in my case a Francisco Lindor), your team should have a reasonable ability to hang on to that player for all/most of his career.  We will never again have franchise icons unless you are a fan of a couple select teams.  Tony Gwynn, Cal Ripkin, Ty Cobb, Derek Jeter, Ozzie Smith, etc arent the same if they played for a bunch of different teams. 
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,022
    MayDay10 said:
    I always say this whenever something in the MLB turns me off (and Im no Red Sox fan)...

    They really need to revamp the entire economic system and structure of the sport or it will go the way of Horse Racing and Boxing in the next 40 years.



    You draft and develop a Mookie Betts (or in my case a Francisco Lindor), your team should have a reasonable ability to hang on to that player for all/most of his career.  We will never again have franchise icons unless you are a fan of a couple select teams.  Tony Gwynn, Cal Ripkin, Ty Cobb, Derek Jeter, Ozzie Smith, etc arent the same if they played for a bunch of different teams. 
    Here's the thing. The Red Sox do have the ability to keep Mookie. They are choosing not to to save money on the luxury tax.  The owner is the owner of one of the most valuable franchises in American sports along with the best club soccer team on the planet with a valuation of the two at around $7 billion.

    Lindor is certainly a slightly different story, but let's not cry poor for the Red Sox not being able to sign Betts. They are choosing not to sign Betts to line their own pockets.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,516
    edited February 2020
    Cliffy6745 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    I always say this whenever something in the MLB turns me off (and Im no Red Sox fan)...

    They really need to revamp the entire economic system and structure of the sport or it will go the way of Horse Racing and Boxing in the next 40 years.



    You draft and develop a Mookie Betts (or in my case a Francisco Lindor), your team should have a reasonable ability to hang on to that player for all/most of his career.  We will never again have franchise icons unless you are a fan of a couple select teams.  Tony Gwynn, Cal Ripkin, Ty Cobb, Derek Jeter, Ozzie Smith, etc arent the same if they played for a bunch of different teams. 
    Here's the thing. The Red Sox do have the ability to keep Mookie. They are choosing not to to save money on the luxury tax.  The owner is the owner of one of the most valuable franchises in American sports along with the best club soccer team on the planet with a valuation of the two at around $7 billion.

    Lindor is certainly a slightly different story, but let's not cry poor for the Red Sox not being able to sign Betts. They are choosing not to sign Betts to line their own pockets.
    ^ This.

    There's definitely something broken in the system, but it's certainly not because the Boston Red Sox have the inability to hold on to a generational player. It's because owners of teams like the Red Sox can cry "poor" and point to a made-up, farcical "salary cap".
    Post edited by Jearlpam0925 on
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,022
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    I always say this whenever something in the MLB turns me off (and Im no Red Sox fan)...

    They really need to revamp the entire economic system and structure of the sport or it will go the way of Horse Racing and Boxing in the next 40 years.



    You draft and develop a Mookie Betts (or in my case a Francisco Lindor), your team should have a reasonable ability to hang on to that player for all/most of his career.  We will never again have franchise icons unless you are a fan of a couple select teams.  Tony Gwynn, Cal Ripkin, Ty Cobb, Derek Jeter, Ozzie Smith, etc arent the same if they played for a bunch of different teams. 
    Here's the thing. The Red Sox do have the ability to keep Mookie. They are choosing not to to save money on the luxury tax.  The owner is the owner of one of the most valuable franchises in American sports along with the best club soccer team on the planet with a valuation of the two at around $7 billion.

    Lindor is certainly a slightly different story, but let's not cry poor for the Red Sox not being able to sign Betts. They are choosing not to sign Betts to line their own pockets.
    ^ This.

    There's definitely something broken in the system, but it's certainly not because the Boston Red Sox have the inability to hold on to a generational player. It's because owners of teams like the Red Sox can cry "poor" and point to a made-up, farcicle "salary cap".
    Yep.  Oh, you may have to pay a $12 million tax?  You can find that in your couch cushion. 
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,022
    Also, I find it amusing that the Yankees are blowing by the luxury tax for the foreseeable future, especially if they pay Judge/Sanchez/Gleyber, I assume believing that the luxury tax or whatever salary cap structure will increase with the new CBA, meanwhile Boston is doing the opposite
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,516
    Via baseballreference: 

    "In Major League Baseball, 48% of local revenues are subject to revenue sharing and are distributed equally among all 30 teams, with each team receiving 3.3% of the total sum generated. As a result, in 2018, each team received $118 million from this pot. Teams also receive a share of national revenues, which were estimated to be $91 million per team, also in 2018."

    To that I say:  Ahhhhhhahahahahaha
  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Via baseballreference: 

    "In Major League Baseball, 48% of local revenues are subject to revenue sharing and are distributed equally among all 30 teams, with each team receiving 3.3% of the total sum generated. As a result, in 2018, each team received $118 million from this pot. Teams also receive a share of national revenues, which were estimated to be $91 million per team, also in 2018."

    To that I say:  Ahhhhhhahahahahaha
    The Pirates must have lost those checks 
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Via baseballreference: 

    "In Major League Baseball, 48% of local revenues are subject to revenue sharing and are distributed equally among all 30 teams, with each team receiving 3.3% of the total sum generated. As a result, in 2018, each team received $118 million from this pot. Teams also receive a share of national revenues, which were estimated to be $91 million per team, also in 2018."

    To that I say:  Ahhhhhhahahahahaha
    You beat me to this.

    Now the local teams also sign HUGE TV deals or the Mets and or Yankees have their own stations and make even more.

    If a team is crying foul that they are poor it is utter bullshit.

    The damn Halos are NOT a big market team yet they have the ability to keep a player like Mike Trout.  Now surround him w some good pitching and we can add hardware to 2002.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    Great article on my Halos and Trout.  It doesn't mention of the bright future of Adams and Adell whom they have in the pipes though.
    https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28577463/ten-reasons-mike-trout-mlb-best-player-2010s-won-playoff-game
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,516
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Via baseballreference: 

    "In Major League Baseball, 48% of local revenues are subject to revenue sharing and are distributed equally among all 30 teams, with each team receiving 3.3% of the total sum generated. As a result, in 2018, each team received $118 million from this pot. Teams also receive a share of national revenues, which were estimated to be $91 million per team, also in 2018."

    To that I say:  Ahhhhhhahahahahaha
    You beat me to this.

    Now the local teams also sign HUGE TV deals or the Mets and or Yankees have their own stations and make even more.

    If a team is crying foul that they are poor it is utter bullshit.

    The damn Halos are NOT a big market team yet they have the ability to keep a player like Mike Trout.  Now surround him w some good pitching and we can add hardware to 2002.
    Correct - that RSN money each team receives is able to keep it without it going to revenue sharing. Which I think in a way is fair, or at least a more equitable way, of boosting the competitive balance for "small market" teams.

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