MLB 2025 Season

The Juggler

neilybabes86 wrote:

The Jeagler wrote:

let's see how roy jr follows up the greatest pitching performance of our lifetime tonight.

i shall be in the parking lot by 2:30...weather's beautiful, god bless america...




GO PHILS!!!!

tim wasn't too shabby himself last night

should be two good LCS 's

yeah he was. one step at a time...but i am loving the quality pitching thus far. so much more enjoyable watching a game that moves at such a brisk pace like that...

Flagg

Indifference71 wrote:

What a sad state of umpiring we are dealing with in MLB. You NEVER see managers tossed out of playoff games and it has happened twice already in the 1st round. It's pretty sad.

Maddon went out there with the intention of getting tossed.

I didn't see the Twins game, but Maddon deserved it. The only reason he visited the mound was to argue with the umpires and get ejected. He even admitted it.

From the Tampa Tribune:

After the home run, Rays manager Joe Maddon went out to the mound with the sole purpose of arguing the call on Young's check swing. He was ejected for arguing balls and strikes, which he later said was his objective.

"I wanted to make a statement and jack up the team a little," Maddon said. "It didn't work."

But otherwise I agree with you. The umpires should never be the focus of the game yet somehow they manage to do just that and they become a big part of the story.

With that said though, they had a long leash with Shoppach acting like a bitch yesterday. If I was the ump, I would have tossed his whiny ass. Especially after using the magic word like he did.

Flagg

neilybabes86 wrote:

kinda looks like the yanks are coming to rip your antlers off

Don't be too sure about that. Deer get nasty when cornered.

Actually I do hope the Rangers and Yankees meet. We match up very well.

Cliffy6745

Indifference71 wrote:

What a sad state of umpiring we are dealing with in MLB. You NEVER see managers tossed out of playoff games and it has happened twice already in the 1st round. It's pretty sad.

31 missed ball and strike calls missed in the Yankees game. 31!

Flagg

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Indifference71 wrote:

What a sad state of umpiring we are dealing with in MLB. You NEVER see managers tossed out of playoff games and it has happened twice already in the 1st round. It's pretty sad.

31 missed ball and strike calls missed in the Yankees game. 31!

Wow, that is a lot.

How accurate are those strike zone trackers though? Has anyone looked into that?

Cliffy6745

Flagg wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Indifference71 wrote:

What a sad state of umpiring we are dealing with in MLB. You NEVER see managers tossed out of playoff games and it has happened twice already in the 1st round. It's pretty sad.

31 missed ball and strike calls missed in the Yankees game. 31!

Wow, that is a lot.

How accurate are those strike zone trackers though? Has anyone looked into that?

This is the graph I saw, I know there are a few others as well.



Edit: and it seems there are a whole lot more red squares outside of the zone that triangles, so Minnesota can't really complain.

Johnny Abruzzo

Cliffy6745 wrote:

This is the graph I saw, I know there are a few others as well.



Edit: and it seems there are a whole lot more red squares outside of the zone that triangles, so Minnesota can't really complain.

I noticed plenty of bad calls both ways. Of course, right after blowing a Yankees' strikeout a HR follows. That's the way it goes sometimes. I still don't want a computer calling balls & strikes. The problem is you just need better umpires, and the union has turned it into a patronage position.

Indifference71

Flagg wrote:

Indifference71 wrote:

What a sad state of umpiring we are dealing with in MLB. You NEVER see managers tossed out of playoff games and it has happened twice already in the 1st round. It's pretty sad.

Maddon went out there with the intention of getting tossed.

I didn't see the Twins game, but Maddon deserved it. The only reason he visited the mound was to argue with the umpires and get ejected. He even admitted it.

From the Tampa Tribune:

After the home run, Rays manager Joe Maddon went out to the mound with the sole purpose of arguing the call on Young's check swing. He was ejected for arguing balls and strikes, which he later said was his objective.

"I wanted to make a statement and jack up the team a little," Maddon said. "It didn't work."

But otherwise I agree with you. The umpires should never be the focus of the game yet somehow they manage to do just that and they become a big part of the story.

With that said though, they had a long leash with Shoppach acting like a bitch yesterday. If I was the ump, I would have tossed his whiny ass. Especially after using the magic word like he did.

Yeah, I'm not saying that these managers didn't deserve to be tossed. Just the fact that managers are allowing themselves to be tossed in playoff games due to absolutely terrible umpiring is a complete fucking joke. I mean, honestly, I thought the postseason was reserved for the best umpiring crews??

he.who.forgets

Did anyone watch the Braves/Giants game last night? They must have showed the replay of Buster Posey stealing second about 8 times and the announcers never once mentioned that he was indeed OUT! At least by a foot or two. Granted, the ump may have not had the best angle and it was difficult for him to see the tag, but for it to be obvious in instant replay and not once have the announcers mention it surprised the hell out of me. Of course he went on to score which was the only run of the game.

FearTheBeard

he.who.forgets wrote:

Did anyone watch the Braves/Giants game last night? They must have showed the replay of Buster Posey stealing second about 8 times and the announcers never once mentioned that he was indeed OUT! At least by a foot or two. Granted, the ump may have not had the best angle and it was difficult for him to see the tag, but for it to be obvious in instant replay and not once have the announcers mention it surprised the hell out of me. Of course he went on to score which was the only run of the game.

Bobby Cox had stated that his guys did not do anything as to a reaction. That is why he never went out to argue the call. There was no emotion by any of the players as to a blown call. If you are looking at the call from the umps position which I believe was the right position (he was where every single unpire stands to make that call), Posey looked like he got in under the tag. If you look at the replay from the other angle, he looks out. It's called HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE!!

GO GIANTS!!!

Flagg

Indifference71 wrote:

Flagg wrote:

Indifference71 wrote:

What a sad state of umpiring we are dealing with in MLB. You NEVER see managers tossed out of playoff games and it has happened twice already in the 1st round. It's pretty sad.

Maddon went out there with the intention of getting tossed.

I didn't see the Twins game, but Maddon deserved it. The only reason he visited the mound was to argue with the umpires and get ejected. He even admitted it.

From the Tampa Tribune:

After the home run, Rays manager Joe Maddon went out to the mound with the sole purpose of arguing the call on Young's check swing. He was ejected for arguing balls and strikes, which he later said was his objective.

"I wanted to make a statement and jack up the team a little," Maddon said. "It didn't work."

But otherwise I agree with you. The umpires should never be the focus of the game yet somehow they manage to do just that and they become a big part of the story.

With that said though, they had a long leash with Shoppach acting like a bitch yesterday. If I was the ump, I would have tossed his whiny ass. Especially after using the magic word like he did.

Yeah, I'm not saying that these managers didn't deserve to be tossed. Just the fact that managers are allowing themselves to be tossed in playoff games due to absolutely terrible umpiring is a complete fucking joke. I mean, honestly, I thought the postseason was reserved for the best umpiring crews??

Gotcha. I thought about that after I wrote my response. There have been some pretty bad calls so far no doubt.

Gary Carter

Cliffy6745 wrote:

This is the graph I saw, I know there are a few others as well.



Edit: and it seems there are a whole lot more red squares outside of the zone that triangles, so Minnesota can't really complain.

seems like hunter favored the left outside then the right outside

to me thats unacceptable and unfair to both teams

Aero83_

Im going to miss Bobby Cox...

neilybabes86

I've been trying to figure the chart out for 1 hour

neilybabes86

Jeags must be drinking heavy at the moment

Gary Carter

neilybabes86 wrote:

I've been trying to figure the chart out for 1 hour

green squares=twins balls
red squares= twins strikes
green triangle=yankees balls
green squares=yankees strikes

tvismyfriend

metsfan wrote:

neilybabes86 wrote:

I've been trying to figure the chart out for 1 hour

green squares=twins balls
red squares= twins strikes
green triangle=yankees balls
green squares=yankees strikes

Is that for or against though?

neilybabes86

tvismyfriend wrote:

metsfan wrote:

neilybabes86 wrote:

I've been trying to figure the chart out for 1 hour

green squares=twins balls
red squares= twins strikes
green triangle=yankees balls
green squares=yankees strikes

Is that for or against though?

I'm more confused now

tvismyfriend

neilybabes86 wrote:

I'm more confused now

Are the Twins balls and strikes for the batters or pitchers.

Gary Carter

the way i look at is anything green is balls and anything red is strikes


tvis i think its just in general