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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,626
    tempo_n_groove said:
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    madison bumgarner....what a precipitous fall. :tired_face:
    I keep thinking of the playoff game when most pitcners would be taken out. But Bochy overextended him. It worked out. But maybe hurt him in the long run. 
    Oh, hell no. Bum was a horse. Juan Marichal wasn’t hurt by throwing 227 pitches over 16 innings. Nolan Ryan wasn’t hurt by throwing 235.
    Probably. Is he a HOF? 3 WS. That usually puts people over 
    Not an HOF’er. Posey is a more likely candidate for me, but his career may be viewed as too short.
    Again for Posey, 3 World Series rings helps plus a ROY and MVP. Especially if they're not going to vote in the surefire HOFs. It might be easier for him to get in
    Posey is in.  Great catcher, great player in a tough position.
    If he doesn't have the 3 World Series he doesn't get in though. 
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,520
    Never really given those teams much thought, but just broadly thinking about it - for a team that won 3 titles in 5 seasons is there anyone on there that are no-dount hall of famers? I guess Posey, maybe, sorta? Outside of that, they're probably the most bizarre "dynasty" I can think of. Each roster seems completely unrelated to the other two that won. 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    igotid88 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    igotid88 said:
    Wobbie said:
    igotid88 said:
    Wobbie said:
    igotid88 said:
    Wobbie said:
    madison bumgarner....what a precipitous fall. :tired_face:
    I keep thinking of the playoff game when most pitcners would be taken out. But Bochy overextended him. It worked out. But maybe hurt him in the long run. 
    Oh, hell no. Bum was a horse. Juan Marichal wasn’t hurt by throwing 227 pitches over 16 innings. Nolan Ryan wasn’t hurt by throwing 235.
    Probably. Is he a HOF? 3 WS. That usually puts people over 
    Not an HOF’er. Posey is a more likely candidate for me, but his career may be viewed as too short.
    Again for Posey, 3 World Series rings helps plus a ROY and MVP. Especially if they're not going to vote in the surefire HOFs. It might be easier for him to get in
    Posey is in.  Great catcher, great player in a tough position.
    If he doesn't have the 3 World Series he doesn't get in though. 
    I agree with that.  He would be borderline.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Never really given those teams much thought, but just broadly thinking about it - for a team that won 3 titles in 5 seasons is there anyone on there that are no-dount hall of famers? I guess Posey, maybe, sorta? Outside of that, they're probably the most bizarre "dynasty" I can think of. Each roster seems completely unrelated to the other two that won. 
    Other notables were Lincecum, Madbaum, Zito, Nady and Pablo Sandoval?  Fan favorite Hunter Pence too but nobody that is a sure fire HOFer.
  • markymark550
    markymark550 Columbia, SC Posts: 5,216
    I don't think any of them should get in. To me, we're getting back into the Hall of Very Good territory.
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,626
    edited April 2023
    markymark550 said:
    I don't think any of them should get in. To me, we're getting back into the Hall of Very Good territory.
    Me neither. Especially if my guy can't get in even with better numbers
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,626
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Never really given those teams much thought, but just broadly thinking about it - for a team that won 3 titles in 5 seasons is there anyone on there that are no-dount hall of famers? I guess Posey, maybe, sorta? Outside of that, they're probably the most bizarre "dynasty" I can think of. Each roster seems completely unrelated to the other two that won. 
    Other notables were Lincecum, Madbaum, Zito, Nady and Pablo Sandoval?  Fan favorite Hunter Pence too but nobody that is a sure fire HOFer.
    They had good players that peaked at the right time.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,520
    Like I said - very bizarre, sustained "dynasty". They rode on the back of some elite pitching, cobbled together an OK lineup, and then rolled the dice once getting into the playoffs. Not that I wouldn't take 3 titles in 5 seasons like that though, twist my arm...
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,261
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Never really given those teams much thought, but just broadly thinking about it - for a team that won 3 titles in 5 seasons is there anyone on there that are no-dount hall of famers? I guess Posey, maybe, sorta? Outside of that, they're probably the most bizarre "dynasty" I can think of. Each roster seems completely unrelated to the other two that won. 
    Other notables were Lincecum, Madbaum, Zito, Nady and Pablo Sandoval?  Fan favorite Hunter Pence too but nobody that is a sure fire HOFer.
    nady?

    you know I love my giants but Posey is the only possible HOFer…different guys stepped up in each of the title years….3 different closers…journeymen like cody ross, marco scutaro, aubrey (asshat) huff, hunter pence, michael morse, andres torres, freddy sanchez, etc. came up big….GW pitchers changed from year to year (cain, lincecum, madbum, voglesong)….jeremy affeldt was huge….crawford, panda, belt and posey were together for most of it.

    it flies in the face of the superteam mentality.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    Wobbie said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Never really given those teams much thought, but just broadly thinking about it - for a team that won 3 titles in 5 seasons is there anyone on there that are no-dount hall of famers? I guess Posey, maybe, sorta? Outside of that, they're probably the most bizarre "dynasty" I can think of. Each roster seems completely unrelated to the other two that won. 
    Other notables were Lincecum, Madbaum, Zito, Nady and Pablo Sandoval?  Fan favorite Hunter Pence too but nobody that is a sure fire HOFer.
    nady?

    you know I love my giants but Posey is the only possible HOFer…different guys stepped up in each of the title years….3 different closers…journeymen like cody ross, marco scutaro, aubrey (asshat) huff, hunter pence, michael morse, andres torres, freddy sanchez, etc. came up big….GW pitchers changed from year to year (cain, lincecum, madbum, voglesong)….jeremy affeldt was huge….crawford, panda, belt and posey were together for most of it.

    it flies in the face of the superteam mentality.
    Xavier Nady was a highly touted Draft Pick that was good enough to be in the league for a while like Pence , but never great.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,520
    Xavier Nady stunk, a completely replaceable player; certainly barely a piece for the Giants that I wouldn't think of him when I thought 'GIants championship players'. He was a journeyman, borderline AAAA guy. Definitely not a comparable guy to Hunter Pence.
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,626
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Xavier Nady stunk, a completely replaceable player; certainly barely a piece for the Giants that I wouldn't think of him when I thought 'GIants championship players'. He was a journeyman, borderline AAAA guy. Definitely not a comparable guy to Hunter Pence.
    Nady didn't play in the WS. They're not that much different him and Pence. Nady was just injured a lot.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,520
    igotid88 said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Xavier Nady stunk, a completely replaceable player; certainly barely a piece for the Giants that I wouldn't think of him when I thought 'GIants championship players'. He was a journeyman, borderline AAAA guy. Definitely not a comparable guy to Hunter Pence.
    Nady didn't play in the WS. They're not that much different him and Pence. Nady was just injured a lot.
    Wait what - you're saying they're similar? I'd like to know how.
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,626
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Xavier Nady stunk, a completely replaceable player; certainly barely a piece for the Giants that I wouldn't think of him when I thought 'GIants championship players'. He was a journeyman, borderline AAAA guy. Definitely not a comparable guy to Hunter Pence.
    Nady didn't play in the WS. They're not that much different him and Pence. Nady was just injured a lot.
    Wait what - you're saying they're similar? I'd like to know how.
    Stats wise. They were both decent players. Only problem is Nady had injuries. Also Hunter had double the plate appearances. Pence might be better overall. But it not by a lot
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    igotid88 said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Xavier Nady stunk, a completely replaceable player; certainly barely a piece for the Giants that I wouldn't think of him when I thought 'GIants championship players'. He was a journeyman, borderline AAAA guy. Definitely not a comparable guy to Hunter Pence.
    Nady didn't play in the WS. They're not that much different him and Pence. Nady was just injured a lot.
    Wait what - you're saying they're similar? I'd like to know how.
    Stats wise. They were both decent players. Only problem is Nady had injuries. Also Hunter had double the plate appearances. Pence might be better overall. But it not by a lot
    How does Don Mattingly fit into all this?
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,807
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Xavier Nady stunk, a completely replaceable player; certainly barely a piece for the Giants that I wouldn't think of him when I thought 'GIants championship players'. He was a journeyman, borderline AAAA guy. Definitely not a comparable guy to Hunter Pence.
    Nady didn't play in the WS. They're not that much different him and Pence. Nady was just injured a lot.
    Wait what - you're saying they're similar? I'd like to know how.
    Stats wise. They were both decent players. Only problem is Nady had injuries. Also Hunter had double the plate appearances. Pence might be better overall. But it not by a lot
    How does Don Mattingly fit into all this?
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,626
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Xavier Nady stunk, a completely replaceable player; certainly barely a piece for the Giants that I wouldn't think of him when I thought 'GIants championship players'. He was a journeyman, borderline AAAA guy. Definitely not a comparable guy to Hunter Pence.
    Nady didn't play in the WS. They're not that much different him and Pence. Nady was just injured a lot.
    Wait what - you're saying they're similar? I'd like to know how.
    Stats wise. They were both decent players. Only problem is Nady had injuries. Also Hunter had double the plate appearances. Pence might be better overall. But it not by a lot
    How does Don Mattingly fit into all this?
    Better than both
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  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,179
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Xavier Nady stunk, a completely replaceable player; certainly barely a piece for the Giants that I wouldn't think of him when I thought 'GIants championship players'. He was a journeyman, borderline AAAA guy. Definitely not a comparable guy to Hunter Pence.
    Nady didn't play in the WS. They're not that much different him and Pence. Nady was just injured a lot.
    Wait what - you're saying they're similar? I'd like to know how.
    Stats wise. They were both decent players. Only problem is Nady had injuries. Also Hunter had double the plate appearances. Pence might be better overall. But it not by a lot
    How does Don Mattingly fit into all this?
    :lol:

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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,261
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Wobbie said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Never really given those teams much thought, but just broadly thinking about it - for a team that won 3 titles in 5 seasons is there anyone on there that are no-dount hall of famers? I guess Posey, maybe, sorta? Outside of that, they're probably the most bizarre "dynasty" I can think of. Each roster seems completely unrelated to the other two that won. 
    Other notables were Lincecum, Madbaum, Zito, Nady and Pablo Sandoval?  Fan favorite Hunter Pence too but nobody that is a sure fire HOFer.
    nady?

    you know I love my giants but Posey is the only possible HOFer…different guys stepped up in each of the title years….3 different closers…journeymen like cody ross, marco scutaro, aubrey (asshat) huff, hunter pence, michael morse, andres torres, freddy sanchez, etc. came up big….GW pitchers changed from year to year (cain, lincecum, madbum, voglesong)….jeremy affeldt was huge….crawford, panda, belt and posey were together for most of it.

    it flies in the face of the superteam mentality.
    Xavier Nady was a highly touted Draft Pick that was good enough to be in the league for a while like Pence , but never great.
    didn’t even know he was a Giant…I must have missed his 19 games.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    Vancouver 11
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    Kelenic keeps hitting!

    I just don't know about Soto.  He always starts slow but last year he wasn't good, even on a loaded SD team.  This year he's no better.

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