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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    This probably isn't a good thing

    http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/ ... s-in-2008/

    I hate that man, but bad Boston press is something I enjoy very much.

    C'mon curt give us some names :corn:

    There are two pretty big names that are no longer there that we're big parts of the organization then. That would be awesome. :lol:
    One of their names happens to rhyme with Cleo.
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  • Theo and Tito
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,832
    Hot damn Seattle. Guess the Yanks aren't getting the prime years of Felix. :(
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Hot damn Seattle. Guess the Yanks aren't getting the prime years of Felix. :(


    he's only 26, might be one of the greats of our lifetime
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,832
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Hot damn Seattle. Guess the Yanks aren't getting the prime years of Felix. :(


    he's only 26, might be one of the greats of our lifetime

    For sure. He should just be entering his prime.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Hot damn Seattle. Guess the Yanks aren't getting the prime years of Felix. :(

    not worth the money
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,832
    polaris_x wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Hot damn Seattle. Guess the Yanks aren't getting the prime years of Felix. :(

    not worth the money

    You say that every time someone is signed. If a 26 year old pitcher who has steadily been one of the best in baseball for 5 years or so isn't worth it, then no player is.

    Your Blue Jays just went nuts with salaries.
  • Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Hot damn Seattle. Guess the Yanks aren't getting the prime years of Felix. :(


    God damn that is a shitload of money.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,832
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Hot damn Seattle. Guess the Yanks aren't getting the prime years of Felix. :(


    God damn that is a shitload of money.

    A whole lot. Can't imagine what Kershaw is going to get now.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Can't imagine what Kershaw is going to get now.

    thank you time-warner cable ;)
  • davidtriosdavidtrios Posts: 9,732
    the new felix deal will be horrible by year 3
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,832
    davidtrios wrote:
    the new felix deal will be horrible by year 3

    Why?
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,144
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Hot damn Seattle. Guess the Yanks aren't getting the prime years of Felix. :(

    and he'll never pitch a meaningful game.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • davidtriosdavidtrios Posts: 9,732
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    davidtrios wrote:
    the new felix deal will be horrible by year 3

    Why?

    he's signed through 2019- once he hits 30, there's a big chance that he will decline. His new contract will take effect this season and pay him a record average annual salary of $25 million through 2019 and that's a lot for a pitcher that logs 200 innings almost every year.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,832
    imalive wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Hot damn Seattle. Guess the Yanks aren't getting the prime years of Felix. :(

    and he'll never pitch a meaningful game.

    We'll see. They have shown this offseason that they are willing to spend. A lot relies on the kids they have.
  • davidtriosdavidtrios Posts: 9,732
    also, he's thrown about 200 innings since age 20...bad contract.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,832
    davidtrios wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    davidtrios wrote:
    the new felix deal will be horrible by year 3

    Why?

    he's signed through 2019- once he hits 30, there's a big chance that he will decline. His new contract will take effect this season and pay him a record average annual salary of $25 million through 2019 and that's a lot for a pitcher that logs 200 innings almost every year.

    But the contract only goes through his age 34 season. Dude could get another big contract after this one, which would probably be a mistake. You can argue he has logged a lot of innings, but the great ones always throw a lot of innings. If you are going to give a big contract to a pitcher, this seems like the best case scenario as you are locking up a player entering his prime and not coming out of his prime.
  • davidtriosdavidtrios Posts: 9,732
    granted but look at:

    santana
    lackey
    peavy
    zambrano
    zito


    i hope im wrong about king felix.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,832
    davidtrios wrote:
    granted but look at:

    santana
    lackey
    peavy
    zambrano
    zito


    i hope im wrong about king felix.

    Eh, just because players have gotten hurt doesn't mean he will. You gotta keep him if you are the Mariners. And as long is he doesn't get shoulder problems, even if you lose him for a year to TJ, no big deal. All baseball contracts are a gamble and I'd put my money on Felix over just about any other pitcher in the game.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    You say that every time someone is signed. If a 26 year old pitcher who has steadily been one of the best in baseball for 5 years or so isn't worth it, then no player is.

    Your Blue Jays just went nuts with salaries.

    i wouldn't say every time ... :lol::lol: ... i just don't think he's the best pitcher in baseball and therefore shouldn't be paid that way ... i also think safeco field is a pitchers ballpark and am guessing his away stats aren't nearly as good as his home stats ...

    as for the jays ... we got dickey for an average of $10 million a year ... most recent cy young winner ... that's a whole lot less than what felix will make the next 3 years ... despite all our moves ... our payroll will still be around 10th in the league ... not crazy ...
  • That's a lot of coin for a guy that hasn't thrown one pitch in the postseason.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,832
    And just like that, there could be some elbow issues with Felix.
  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    And just like that, there could be some elbow issues with Felix.
    :lol: Enjoy that contract M's. I'm laughing at the M's, not Felix's elbow issues.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,832
    Interesting offseason for the Indians.
  • davidtriosdavidtrios Posts: 9,732
    Newch91 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    And just like that, there could be some elbow issues with Felix.
    :lol: Enjoy that contract M's. I'm laughing at the M's, not Felix's elbow issues.


    yeah, looks like davidtrios is right again. :lol:
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,144
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Interesting offseason for the Indians.

    yeah.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,832
    davidtrios wrote:
    Newch91 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    And just like that, there could be some elbow issues with Felix.
    :lol: Enjoy that contract M's. I'm laughing at the M's, not Felix's elbow issues.


    yeah, looks like davidtrios is right again. :lol:

    You are declaring yourself right about something that hasn't happened yet?

    Sounds like the Mariners may have gotten some injury clauses.
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Cliffy6745 wrote:

    yeah, looks like davidtrios is right again. :lol:

    You are declaring yourself right about something that hasn't happened yet?
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    i find his confidence sexy
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    mike piazza is a whiny, petty, fucktard douchebag asshat
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    norm wrote:
    mike piazza is a whiny, petty, fucktard douchebag asshat

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u1aSkrBOlo
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