MLB 2024 Off Season

mfc2006

wow. :shock:

norm

Cliffy6745 wrote:

norm wrote:

yep Gonzalez scratched from sox lineup


holy shit! :shock:

Dude, this is insane. Baseball is awesome

i was so close to giving up last year when it looked like mccourt might stay...this season has been so great!

Cliffy6745

norm wrote:

agon
kemp
ramierez
ethier

:shock: :shock:

That's pretty legit.

Cliffy6745

No Lee

Wobbie

norm wrote:

agon
kemp
ramierez
ethier

:shock: :shock:

goddam motherfucking yankees of the west coast :x

fuck magic; fuck the dodgers; fuck the lack of a salary cap.

norm

imalive wrote:

norm wrote:

agon
kemp
ramierez
ethier

:shock: :shock:

goddam motherfucking yankees of the west coast :x

fuck magic; fuck the dodgers; fuck the lack of a salary cap.

oh c'mon we had to take beckett and crawford and their unbelievably shitty salaries...if anything, this will probably bite us in the ass in a couple years...have hope! :P

Wobbie

start a fucking d**gers thread or resurrect your old one.

bandwagoneers welcome :x

norm

imalive wrote:

start a fucking d**gers thread or resurrect your old one.

bandwagoneers welcome :x

i saw what was happening in the giants thread the past couple days...no thanks :roll:

The Fixer

norm wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

norm wrote:

yep Gonzalez scratched from sox lineup


holy shit! :shock:

Dude, this is insane. Baseball is awesome

i was so close to giving up last year when it looked like mccourt might stay...this season has been so great!

it's pretty amazing how much more enjoyable the summer is when your favorite mlb team is doing well.

can't wait to see the final details of this trade. crazy!!

norm

The Fixer wrote:

can't wait to see the final details of this trade. crazy!!

makes me wonder why the phils didn't dump lee on us if we're wanting to do this deal

The Fixer

norm wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

can't wait to see the final details of this trade. crazy!!

makes me wonder why the phils didn't dump lee on us if we're wanting to do this deal

funny. someone just texted me phils should have done howard and lee.

amaro factor

Newch91

norm wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

norm wrote:

yep Gonzalez scratched from sox lineup


holy shit! :shock:

Dude, this is insane. Baseball is awesome

i was so close to giving up last year when it looked like mccourt might stay...this season has been so great!

I bet you've been thanking Magic.

Cliffy6745

Trade sounds like it is done. I can't really believe this. I'm trying to think of the last trade this size and I can't come up with anything.

Boston gets a clean slate. Talk about changing the direction of a franchise.

LA gets Gonzalez and 2 question marks. Beckett should have some bounce back going from the AL East to the NL West but he is still pretty bad. But was good last year, so who knows. I always liked Crawford, now that I can root for him again, I'd like to see him rebound and not be a total bust. Maybe a chance of scenery is what he needed. Neither Crawford or Gonzalez ever seemed like they felt all that comfortable in Boston.

DS1119

norm wrote:

imalive wrote:

norm wrote:

agon
kemp
ramierez
ethier

:shock: :shock:

goddam motherfucking yankees of the west coast :x

fuck magic; fuck the dodgers; fuck the lack of a salary cap.

oh c'mon we had to take beckett and crawford and their unbelievably shitty salaries...if anything, this will probably bite us in the ass in a couple years...have hope! :P

It will either bite the team in the ass or end up brilliant. There really is no in between.

norm

i thought about this last night...makes me wonder if guggenheim are making these deals to get the fan base back, will the dodger eat some (all) of these contracts if they don’t work out?

also, doesn’t this set us up for the very situation boston is in now?

:think:

norm

then again...

DS1119

norm wrote:

then again...

Weren't the DOdger's broke 18 months ago? There's a term for the money they now have but that would provide an insta-ban here.

norm

saying a potential $8 billion tv deal can get you banned?

DS1119

norm wrote:

saying a potential $8 billion tv deal can get you banned?

Yes! Something like that.

norm

Dodgers become a team the NL can love to hate
A franchise changes its (pin) stripes — the Dodgers are now Yankees West, and that won't sit well with the opposition.

By Bill Shaikin

August 25, 2012

The Dodgers have been respected and admired through most of their years, mocked and pitied for the last couple of years.

Now they will be hated.

This is not hate from San Francisco, the hate born from a rivalry. This is hate from every other city in the National League, the hate born from the rich new kids on the block trying to buy a championship.

The Dodgers are on the verge of paying about $140 million for three players — just to secure the chance to pay about $120 million more for the one player they really want. Ladies and gentlemen, your New York Yankees of Los Angeles.

Not that the Dodgers care.

"Are you playing within the rules? That's what I always looked at," said Dodgers manager and former Yankees star Don Mattingly. "They used to say all that about the Yankees. If you don't like it, change the rules."

Here's the scorecard on the Dodgers' new owners, all without benefit of an off-season: a contract extension for Andre Ethier, the signing of Cuban prospect Yasiel Puig, trades for Hanley Ramirez, Shane Victorino, Joe Blanton, Brandon League and Randy Choate, and the pending trade with the Boston Red Sox for Adrian Gonzalez, Carl Crawford, Josh Beckett and Nick Punto.

Total cost: $432 million. Sale price in 2004, when Frank McCourt bought the Dodgers: $421 million.

"The L.A. Dodgers are doing what the L.A. Dodgers should do," said Miami Marlins reliever Heath Bell, who grew up in Southern California.

"They should be the New York of the West Coast. They're putting L.A. back on the map."

Under the O'Malley reign, the Dodgers won with smarts. They even wrote a book about it: "The Dodger Way to Play Baseball."

Under Fox, the Dodgers tried to win with money. They failed miserably.

Under the new Guggenheim Baseball ownership, the Dodgers are trying to win with money, at least until the minor league pipeline can be revitalized. That day was delayed when the Dodgers agreed to send Boston three of their top prospects — pitchers Rubby De La Rosa and Allen Webster and outfielder Jerry Sands.

Mark Walter, the Dodgers' chairman, offers neither guarantees nor apologies.

"It's not like we're going to win 162 games. It's no sure thing," Walter said Friday. "But I told people we were going to try to make this team the best team we could make it."

Even with Gonzalez, the Dodgers' lineup might not be as good as the Cincinnati Reds'. Even with Beckett, the Dodgers' pitching staff might not be as good as the Washington Nationals' — yes, even after the Stephen Strasburg shutdown.

None of that matters if the Dodgers do not make the playoffs. As of Saturday, they would not.

And, if money equaled success, the Red Sox would be printing playoff tickets, not blowing up their roster to get a quarter-billion bucks off the books.

The Dodgers can afford this, with curious thanks to McCourt. He pitched bidders on financial flexibility, and he left behind a roster that included just $33 million in guaranteed salary for 2014.

Guggenheim paid $2.15 billion for the team. They're not about to stop spending now, no matter how many stars they assemble for their cast or how much ire they draw from owners or fans around the league.

You either love the Yankees, or you love to hate them.

"It was kind of a little rock show," Mattingly said. "Everywhere you went, you caused that little buzz.

"That's the way the Dodgers should be. I'll be honest with you: to me, when the Dodgers come to town, it should be THE DODGERS."

Mattingly is not without sympathy, or admiration, for those teams that do more with less.

"There is a beauty in doing what the Twins do," he said. "You have to be really good at what the Twins do. You build your minor league system. You do everything right.

"That's the way we should be. Our system should be great. We should teach our guys to play the game right. But right now . . . to me, it's the best of both worlds."

The Dodgers had fallen so far that the Twins outspent them last year, and the year before that. The Dodgers have corrected that much, at least, no matter how much hatred they might have inspired from sea to shining sea.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/baseball/ ... 1255.story

Wobbie

norm wrote:

The Dodgers have been respected and admired through most of their years, mocked and pitied for the last couple of years.

Now they will be hated.

now ???? now they will be hated????

they've always been hateable

Wobbie

norm wrote:

also, doesn’t this set us up for the very situation boston is in now?

:think:

one can certainly hope

Wobbie

we need Bud to pull a Stern on this one.... :thumbup:

Indifference71

I can't believe this trade...fucking crazy. Boston has to be thrilled to be getting rid of those 3 contracts.

norm

it's official:

The Dodgers acquired Gonzalez, pitcher Josh Beckett, injured outfielder Carl Crawford and utilityman Nick Punto in exchange for first baseman James Loney and pitchers Rubby De La Rosa and Allen Webster, infielder Ivan De Jesus and outfielder-first baseman Jerry Sands.

christ i hope this works out

Wobbie

norm wrote:

christ i hope this works out

they're the yankees now....it doesn't even need to work out....they've got fucking money to burn :x

see you in fucking missoula.

norm

imalive wrote:

see you in fucking missoula.

just don't kick me in the balls :wtf: :-P

The Fixer

norm wrote:

it's official:

The Dodgers acquired Gonzalez, pitcher Josh Beckett, injured outfielder Carl Crawford and utilityman Nick Punto in exchange for first baseman James Loney and pitchers Rubby De La Rosa and Allen Webster, infielder Ivan De Jesus and outfielder-first baseman Jerry Sands.

christ i hope this works out

crazy they pulled that off without including lee or reed

dodgers lineup is solid, but their rotation is still pretty shaky

fascinating deal

igotid88

I would like Mattingly get a World Series ring. But not Beckett.

Wobbie

igotid88 wrote:

I would like Mattingly get a World Series ring. But not Beckett.

fuck mattingly. fuck the d**gers. fuck agon.

I'm gonna punch norm in the fud(?) in missoula.