the lottery is crap, ten club bullshit!

traveljunkie

10C could print our names/numbers onto sticky labels and when putting them into their respective envelopes, sticky the back of one ticket with the label. This way the tickets that go into the envelope that has our name/number on it will have something inside with our name/number on it. There ends the issue of To Seal or Not To Seal.

I swear that makes perfect sense in my head.

neilybabes86

Wish I Was wrote:

10C could print our names/numbers onto sticky labels and when putting them into their respective envelopes, sticky the back of one ticket with the label. This way the tickets that go into the envelope that has our name/number on it will have something inside with our name/number on it. There ends the issue of To Seal or Not To Seal.

I swear that makes perfect sense in my head.

BUT YOU'RE NOT THE BOX OFFICE...PERIOD

traveljunkie

neilybabes86 wrote:

Wish I Was wrote:

10C could print our names/numbers onto sticky labels and when putting them into their respective envelopes, sticky the back of one ticket with the label. This way the tickets that go into the envelope that has our name/number on it will have something inside with our name/number on it. There ends the issue of To Seal or Not To Seal.

I swear that makes perfect sense in my head.

BUT YOU'RE NOT THE BOX OFFICE...PERIOD

Why are you yelling at me?

CJMST3K

neilybabes86 wrote:

Wish I Was wrote:

10C could print our names/numbers onto sticky labels and when putting them into their respective envelopes, sticky the back of one ticket with the label. This way the tickets that go into the envelope that has our name/number on it will have something inside with our name/number on it. There ends the issue of To Seal or Not To Seal.

I swear that makes perfect sense in my head.

BUT YOU'RE NOT THE BOX OFFICE...PERIOD

His idea actually makes a lot of sense, except they would have to pay money to have an additional staff person handle just the stickering the tickets, since that's not as easy as it sounds. However I DO like the idea.

One day I hope PJ can do what the Grateful Dead used to do, and print their own decorative tickets. GD's used to have raised printing with glitter ink and everything.

neilybabes86

Wish I Was wrote:

neilybabes86 wrote:

Wish I Was wrote:

10C could print our names/numbers onto sticky labels and when putting them into their respective envelopes, sticky the back of one ticket with the label. This way the tickets that go into the envelope that has our name/number on it will have something inside with our name/number on it. There ends the issue of To Seal or Not To Seal.

I swear that makes perfect sense in my head.

BUT YOU'RE NOT THE BOX OFFICE...PERIOD

Why are you yelling at me?

sorry to lazy to take caps off not yelling

neilybabes86

CJMST3K wrote:

neilybabes86 wrote:

Wish I Was wrote:

10C could print our names/numbers onto sticky labels and when putting them into their respective envelopes, sticky the back of one ticket with the label. This way the tickets that go into the envelope that has our name/number on it will have something inside with our name/number on it. There ends the issue of To Seal or Not To Seal.

I swear that makes perfect sense in my head.

BUT YOU'RE NOT THE BOX OFFICE...PERIOD

His idea actually makes a lot of sense, except they would have to pay money to have an additional staff person handle just the stickering the tickets, since that's not as easy as it sounds. However I DO like the idea.

One day I hope PJ can do what the Grateful Dead used to do, and print their own decorative tickets. GD's used to have raised printing with glitter ink and everything.

dude u worked there and i know many people there (MSG)


the box office does what it wants ...even with 10c tickets


nothing anyone can do about it

im pretty sure most venues are like this

nobody is telling the arena box office how to do things

Get_Right

CJMST3K wrote:

His idea actually makes a lot of sense, except they would have to pay money to have an additional staff person handle just the stickering the tickets, since that's not as easy as it sounds. However I DO like the idea.

One day I hope PJ can do what the Grateful Dead used to do, and print their own decorative tickets. GD's used to have raised printing with glitter ink and everything.

ahhhhhh sparkly tickets! Talk about suspicious ticket allocations!


In addition to administrative work-the current system of allocation the tickets does not appear to take into consideration the occasional low number member that wins the 10th row lottery!
Sticky the tickets and they wouldnt be able to correct the problem.

CJMST3K

neilybabes86 wrote:

dude u worked there and i know many people there (MSG)


the box office does what it wants ...even with 10c tickets


nothing anyone can do about it

im pretty sure most venues are like this

nobody is telling the arena box office how to do things

Yup. MSG even has an (invisible) do not cross point in the box office to keep tour and promoter staff at least 20 paces away from the windows. Between that and the "no closed envelope" policy, its a different world in THAT box office.

But that aside, stickers on the back of ticket pairs, while completely labor intensive, would solve the issue since there is virtually no possibility for fraud once the sticker is on there.

Of course, the band could just rent space at the Pennsylvania Hotel and hand out tickets there across the street from the venue, if they really wanted to lock-down... but I don't know if that's necessary.

tacet

Sit in the first row every show - less chance of you sitting next to me.
I prefer to be surrounded by positive energy at a show.
Then again this whole post is negatively charged but in a positive way.

CJMST3K

(posting this in here, since it's relevant)

AmyMoore wrote:

CJMST3K wrote:

AmyMoore wrote:

Virginia Beach 2008 people with numbers very close to mine were in the 4th and 5th row.
My seats were in the 10th row.

What number are you?

106###.

You indeed got pushed back. My number is not as good as yours, and I was 6 rows in front of you.

This seems to confirm that "winning" the lottery can move you backwards. :?

usamamasan1

lose seniority and it's all lottery. that's what i'm sprayin.

High Fidelity 2000

CJMST3K wrote:

To be fair, lets say the guy who the OP is referring to normally got 1st or 2nd Row before the lottery was added.

Ok, he got pushed back 2 rows...

Now "winning" the lottery pushes him back to Row 10?


So, he's now pushed back 9 rows. It would just be nice to know this is TC's policy, that's all. It's the principal of it.

I agree. I think it would make a bigger difference if it was me. I have a number that would put me between those first ten rows at most non-huge shows (got 5th in KC). If I only go to one show in 4 years, but have kept up with my membership dues etc, and got stuck in 10th row while there were people ahead of me with much higher member numbers because I "won" the lottery.... well then that's not seniority based seating, which is the huge reason I've kept up with my membership these past few years even when I haven't been able to go to any of the east coast/west coast tours. 10th row is still good, sure, but it's still further back. My wife is really short, so the more rows of people that are in front of us, the harder it is for her to see. We got side seats once and it was like a completely different experience for her to actually be able to see the stage.

Another solution might be: if people who would be ahead of row 9 are getting pushed BACK to row 9/10... how about make the lottery for rows 1, 2, and 3, and forget about the 9/10 stuff.

iamloco724

personally i think anyone within the first 15 rows shouldnt gripe about anything yes im very new to the club i wasnt a part as long as alot of people cause i was young when the club started and wasnt allowed to go to shows and what not

the point is if anyone is in those rows they should feel fortunate and happy..people like me who have a high number or have to buy ticketmaster tix will never have those seats unless we 1. either win the lottery or 2 spend a shitload of money so anyone that complains about being in row 10 is just really stupid in my opinion

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

i thought they couldnt cause you to get worse seats, but even if they do this 'problem' seems pretty minor to the point of being a small inconvenience. its just a few rows, i dont get why anyone would care. different strokes i guess.

i certainly dont pity or sympathise with you though.

tacet

iamloco724 wrote:

personally i think anyone within the first 15 rows shouldnt gripe about anything yes im very new to the club i wasnt a part as long as alot of people cause i was young when the club started and wasnt allowed to go to shows and what not

the point is if anyone is in those rows they should feel fortunate and happy..people like me who have a high number or have to buy ticketmaster tix will never have those seats unless we 1. either win the lottery or 2 spend a shitload of money so. anyone that complains about being in row 10 is just really stupid in my opinion

I agree, except for calling them stupid.
I just wanted to add a period.

iamloco724

SS25454 wrote:

iamloco724 wrote:

personally i think anyone within the first 15 rows shouldnt gripe about anything yes im very new to the club i wasnt a part as long as alot of people cause i was young when the club started and wasnt allowed to go to shows and what not

the point is if anyone is in those rows they should feel fortunate and happy..people like me who have a high number or have to buy ticketmaster tix will never have those seats unless we 1. either win the lottery or 2 spend a shitload of money so. anyone that complains about being in row 10 is just really stupid in my opinion

I agree, except for calling them stupid.
I just wanted to add a period.

not trying to insult anyone and call them stupid im just saying the action of complaining about such a thing is stupid ..theres bigger things to complain about in life then being "unlucky" in the 10th row at any pearl jam show

Horos

Holy Shit!!!

Read through the responses this morning and then got home to see Tapers response and many more posts. I see Taper did decide to reply to this thread a few times.

Speedy was the only thought out post I think in the whole 19 pages. The other points everyone is arguing are beside the point. Tapers 'friend' had to complain for this to even go down in the first place and now he's complaining about being upgraded.

Like Speedy said shut up and go sit in the 10th row!

Veddernarian

iamloco724 wrote:

personally i think anyone within the first 15 rows shouldnt gripe about anything yes im very new to the club i wasnt a part as long as alot of people cause i was young when the club started and wasnt allowed to go to shows and what not

the point is if anyone is in those rows they should feel fortunate and happy..people like me who have a high number or have to buy ticketmaster tix will never have those seats unless we 1. either win the lottery or 2 spend a shitload of money so anyone that complains about being in row 10 is just really stupid in my opinion

You are exactly the type of person I wrote about before. I'd hate to see you or someone in your situation systemically deprived decent seats because of age.

I would go a step further. I would say that anybody in rows 1-10 (3-8) solely because of their 10c numbers is one of these people who have great numbers and are close all the time. Prior to the lottery, depending on venue, I bet these people have all been within the 1st 5 rows. I would propose that if by 10c number, you're going to be within the 1st 10 rows, you should be ineligible for the lottery. You have great seats.

traveljunkie

CJMST3K wrote:

neilybabes86 wrote:

Wish I Was wrote:

10C could print our names/numbers onto sticky labels and when putting them into their respective envelopes, sticky the back of one ticket with the label. This way the tickets that go into the envelope that has our name/number on it will have something inside with our name/number on it. There ends the issue of To Seal or Not To Seal.

I swear that makes perfect sense in my head.

BUT YOU'RE NOT THE BOX OFFICE...PERIOD

His idea actually makes a lot of sense, except they would have to pay money to have an additional staff person handle just the stickering the tickets, since that's not as easy as it sounds. However I DO like the idea.

Her. But thank you! :P
And I would think anything to improve the system is going to take more staff.

Lennon_Cobain

I'd be thrilled to be sitting in the 10th row. :(