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81

hmm....interesting.

SVRDhand13

I was annoyed at all the plotholes I noticed in The Dark Knight Rises. Then I remembered I had just watched a movie about a billionaire who dresses as a bat and I got over them pretty quickly.

81

i hate potholes...hit one in MA...it rattled my jaw :shock:

SVRDhand13

81 wrote:

i hate potholes...hit one in MA...it rattled my jaw :shock:

Damn autocorrect

81

SVRDhand13 wrote:

81 wrote:

i hate potholes...hit one in MA...it rattled my jaw :shock:

Damn autocorrect

:x

rival.

that was last night's drunken rant on how the movie ended.

that being said, can't wait for the DVD

uninnocent-

The Juggler wrote:

uninnocent- wrote:

I saw it for a second time and it was slightly better than my initial assessment. The story flowed a lot better upon a repeat viewing, probably because I wasn't actively trying to catch every little detail and allowed myself to sit back and enjoy it for what it was. There were still a few glaring holes in the story and some suspect acting, but I'll bump it's rating up half a point to 7.5/10. Since IMDB doesn't do half stars, I've rounded up and they've scammed a rating of 8 from me.

i gotta see it again too because it sounds like we may have had the same reaction to the first viewing. i loved it but there were definitely some faults. the timeline bugged me a bit--early on we learn bruce has no cartilage in his knees and he's walking with a can...then BOOM---he's batman again! just like that! then his amazingly quick recover from a broken back and suddenly appearing back in gotham (where nobody was allowed in or out), which is halfway across the world, in a matter of (seemingly) hours.....yada yada yada......so there are things you have to overlook in this movie. as a whole, i really enjoyed it. it was dark. gritty. a different feel than the previous 2. overall, while being my least favorite of the 3, i thought it was a great ending to the trilogy. hathaway should get a nod for best supporting actress. in addition to looking muuuuuch hotter than i thought she would in the catsuit, she really nailed the role. she owned every scene she was in. very impressed with her.

i think begins is my favorite then tdk and then tdkr. it's weird because i feel like i gained a whole new appreciation for begins in the past week when watching it to get caught up for the new one. then it was on fx a couple times and I watched it some more. that had the best story of the 3 and ledger had the best performance of the 3. i wish they wouldn't have completely ignored the joker in tdkr. either way---i'm bummed that this incarnation is over with.

Yeah, it seems like we both have a similar assessment of the film. the second viewing is much better, as long as you remember to turn your brain off and just enjoy the ride and try to avoid thinking about the holes in the plot

SVRDhand13

Anyone else notice how anti-climactic the death scenes were?

polaris_x

i thought this movie was excellent and my favourite of the 3 ... i think mostly because it took the other two films to set up this film ... i thought the primary characters in this film were excellent except for matthew modine - i didn't care for him ... tom hardy was his brilliant self ... anne hathaway is quickly moving up my list of current talent ... and all the other supporting actors were great ...

what worked for me in this movie is the subplot related to the league of shadows and their belief that the elites have committed crimes against the people ... not a shock to those that know me that i fully believe that is to be the case ... it allowed me to empathize with bane and catwoman and their cause ... this to me is what makes a great "superhero" movie - a formidable villain ... and conflict ...

also - the plot line related to clean energy and batman's refusal to unleash it because of the evil in the world played well to me ...

although the film ended quite happy - i am ok with that ... it's pretty obvious that he wouldn't die as the whole thing with the auto pilot on that thing was set up for a while just like the scar on miranda's back giving her away ...

PearlJamaholic

polaris_x wrote:

i thought this movie was excellent and my favourite of the 3 ... i think mostly because it took the other two films to set up this film ... i thought the primary characters in this film were excellent except for matthew modine - i didn't care for him ... tom hardy was his brilliant self ... anne hathaway is quickly moving up my list of current talent ... and all the other supporting actors were great ...

what worked for me in this movie is the subplot related to the league of shadows and their belief that the elites have committed crimes against the people ... not a shock to those that know me that i fully believe that is to be the case ... it allowed me to empathize with bane and catwoman and their cause ... this to me is what makes a great "superhero" movie - a formidable villain ... and conflict ...

also - the plot line related to clean energy and batman's refusal to unleash it because of the evil in the world played well to me ...

although the film ended quite happy - i am ok with that ... it's pretty obvious that he wouldn't die as the whole thing with the auto pilot on that thing was set up for a while just like the scar on miranda's back giving her away ...

i dont know much about nolan's view of things but it seemed to me that the movie had a bit of an anti-liberal slant to it. the whole catwoman/bane being against the evil rich people, but removing the wealth didnt fix any problems just created more. the energy part was the one that got me thinking of this. bruce was so against the 'clean energy' cause it was dangerous and it turns out the only people interested in 'clean energy' didnt care about it for that reason but only for their own personal agenda. sorta what we saw with solyndra and gms volt. bruce was all for a new energy source if it proved safer and more efficient then what they already had. a lot like the boat we are in, lots of promising ideas but its all junk right now, solar, wind, hydrogen...

polaris_x

PearlJamaholic wrote:

i dont know much about nolan's view of things but it seemed to me that the movie had a bit of an anti-liberal slant to it. the whole catwoman/bane being against the evil rich people, but removing the wealth didnt fix any problems just created more. the energy part was the one that got me thinking of this. bruce was so against the 'clean energy' cause it was dangerous and it turns out the only people interested in 'clean energy' didnt care about it for that reason but only for their own personal agenda. sorta what we saw with solyndra and gms volt. bruce was all for a new energy source if it proved safer and more efficient then what they already had. a lot like the boat we are in, lots of promising ideas but its all junk right now, solar, wind, hydrogen...

i'll just respectfully disagree ... on all counts ...

SVRDhand13

The movie was a cluttered mess. So much wrong with it to keep it from being a classic, but I was still entertained.

igotid88

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81

SVRDhand13 wrote:

The movie was a cluttered mess. So much wrong with it to keep it from being a classic, but I was still entertained.

pretty much this

from a story telling/time line persepective, it pretty much sucked...

good lord...one second we are in pittham, and the next, in some hole in the ground prison....

and pittsburgh as gotham city....come on. what a scam that was

and who builds a football stadium with a big undground something under it. :fp:

the last joker batman might have been the best batman ever. this one might be 3rd or 4th overall in the batman series.

polaris_x

sooo ... what were the major problems with the timelines?

81

polaris_x wrote:

sooo ... what were the major problems with the timelines?

one second we are fighting in the sewers, next thing we know, batman is in a prison...and then bam, he is healthy in a couple of days.....gets out and is back in gotham before sun down...how does that happen.

overlook some of the corney ness like that and it's a fine movie...but no where near as good as the last one.

polaris_x

81 wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

sooo ... what were the major problems with the timelines?

one second we are fighting in the sewers, next thing we know, batman is in a prison...and then bam, he is healthy in a couple of days.....gets out and is back in gotham before sun down...how does that happen.

overlook some of the corney ness like that and it's a fine movie...but no where near as good as the last one.

i didn't see it like that ... the reactor was set to go off in 5 months ... prior to that bruce is in the prison ... he comes back basically 2 days before it is set to go off ... you guys did notice that the ice froze over in the rivers - that doesn't happen in 2-3 days ...

obviously assuming some guy punching you in the back and traction can fix one's back - 20 weeks is more than reasonable in recovery time ...

SVRDhand13

polaris_x wrote:

81 wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

sooo ... what were the major problems with the timelines?

one second we are fighting in the sewers, next thing we know, batman is in a prison...and then bam, he is healthy in a couple of days.....gets out and is back in gotham before sun down...how does that happen.

overlook some of the corney ness like that and it's a fine movie...but no where near as good as the last one.

i didn't see it like that ... the reactor was set to go off in 5 months ... prior to that bruce is in the prison ... he comes back basically 2 days before it is set to go off ... you guys did notice that the ice froze over in the rivers - that doesn't happen in 2-3 days ...

obviously assuming some guy punching you in the back and traction can fix one's back - 20 weeks is more than reasonable in recovery time ...

How did Batman get back to Gotham? He was in the middle of the desert. No money, no ID, no help from anybody, and he gets into the city that is supposedly blocked off? Where did he get his costume?

polaris_x

SVRDhand13 wrote:

How did Batman get back to Gotham? He was in the middle of the desert. No money, no ID, no help from anybody, and he gets into the city that is supposedly blocked off? Where did he get his costume?

the guy survived 7 years without any help in batman begins ... he also fixed the auto pilot thing ... he's a smart guy ...

as for the costume - you can't possibly be referring to the batman suit? ... he gets catwoman to take him to fox so they can get his stuff ...

SVRDhand13

polaris_x wrote:

SVRDhand13 wrote:

How did Batman get back to Gotham? He was in the middle of the desert. No money, no ID, no help from anybody, and he gets into the city that is supposedly blocked off? Where did he get his costume?

the guy survived 7 years without any help in batman begins ... he also fixed the auto pilot thing ... he's a smart guy ...

as for the costume - you can't possibly be referring to the batman suit? ... he gets catwoman to take him to fox so they can get his stuff ...

Yes, I knew there was an answer to the suit question. I was thinking the first time we saw him was when he was on the ice.

I don't like when a movie holds you by the hand and explains every little thing but this one leaves parts of the story out where I can't help but feel like more could have been explained.