Saw VH 4 times with Roth and 3 times With Hagar. Also caught Roth's first solo tour. Even though Roth repeated jokes I heard on previous tours I still like the Roth era music better. The Hagar stuff just seems over produced and not as raw sounding as the Roth stuff.
"FF, I've heard the droning about the Sawx being the baby dolls. Yeah, I get it, you guys invented baseball and suffered forever. I get it." -JearlPam0925
well in high school we'd hang out at my buddy's grandma's house who lived up the hill from dave and throw lemons at his house...i think he threw some back one time
well in high school we'd hang out at my buddy's grandma's house who lived up the hill from dave and throw lemons at his house...i think he threw some back one time
Really? That's too funny.
"FF, I've heard the droning about the Sawx being the baby dolls. Yeah, I get it, you guys invented baseball and suffered forever. I get it." -JearlPam0925
"FF, I've heard the droning about the Sawx being the baby dolls. Yeah, I get it, you guys invented baseball and suffered forever. I get it." -JearlPam0925
I've seen VH numerous times and with all 3 singers (yes even saw them with Gary).
The band's peak was without question during the DLR era...but it also went to shit during the DLR era...with the mindless pop claptrap known as "Jump".
The Hagar era produced some decent music, OU812 easily the best album. Though the best song they created was "Humans Being" from the Twister soundtrack.
Roth is a marginal singer, utltimate frontman in the late 70's/early 80's. Hagar a better vocalist, also a bit of a clown. Cherone by far the best vocalist of the 3...in fact I saw all 3 grace the same stage one night, during the Mansfield stop of the Hagar/Roth tour (back in 2002 I think). Gary joined Sammy (and Michael Anthony) for a couple of songs. Far better voice than either of the other 2, but it was doomed from the start to fail, VH fans just couldn't accept Gary.
EVH is nearly as big a headcase as Axl Rose and his ego with an assist from Alex did damage to the band at different points over the years.
The reunited band put on a good enough show (saw them twice, Eddie was in very good form), but the whole Wolfgang thing just shows that EVH's ego still rules all, and Michael Anthony got shafted by the whole process.
But if i were to compile a list of the 10 best VH songs, 8 or 9 would be from the Roth era.
Of course "Intruder" would top the list which tells the real story of who the best singer is, its Frankenstrat.
I have seen all three versins of VH as well as the also tour with Dave. for me, VH is Dave all the waay. I do like most of the Sammy stuff but that was not VH. I also like Gary Cherone but again that is not VH. Gary gets a raw deal....he is a wonderful singer and front man....and I still see him perform to this day.....he is so good.
Good to see not everyone is down on Gary Cherone. I thought he was not a good fit for VH, but who is. It would be like Aerosmith trying to replace Steven Tyler. Everyone usually thinks of him as the guy with the falsetto singing More than Words, but he's a great rock singer too. I still say though that Extreme had the best performance for the Freddy Mercury Tribute Concert.
As far as between Sammy or Dave, I know it's wimping out but for me it's really a tossup. The first album I really got into by VH was 1984, and it's still probably my favorite, but 5150 is probably my second favorite. Dave's the better frontman though.
I always loved the Michael Anthony Jack Daniels bass myself...
"FF, I've heard the droning about the Sawx being the baby dolls. Yeah, I get it, you guys invented baseball and suffered forever. I get it." -JearlPam0925
Gotta go with DLR, although I do enjoy the Van Hagar. Jump was the first video I can remember watching on MTV. It's not my favorite VH song now, but as a 7 or 8 year old kid I thought it was the greatest thing ever. And from that point on, I was forever corrupted.
How is this up for question the answer is DAVID LEE ROTH aka Diamond Dave. Hagar is just lame.
For the record, the score on this thread so far is Dave 18 and Sammy 8.
"FF, I've heard the droning about the Sawx being the baby dolls. Yeah, I get it, you guys invented baseball and suffered forever. I get it." -JearlPam0925
"FF, I've heard the droning about the Sawx being the baby dolls. Yeah, I get it, you guys invented baseball and suffered forever. I get it." -JearlPam0925
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DAVE LEE ROTH - all the way!! The songs rocked harder, and he was the ultimate front man at the time. Dave sang songs about sex! When Sammy joined, all these love songs started to appear on VH albums ***ugh***
Don't get me wrong, Van Hagar did some good stuff, but for me, its no contest.
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Dave...while talented... is a goof. Sammy is the "Brian Johnson" of VH. The "grown up" versiom of Van Halen is Sammy's version. Dave is an entertainer...Sammy is a musician! End of story.
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As far as music goes, David Lee Roth. Van Halen was just better in the beginning, and the longer they kept going the more synth-driven they became, which I don't like. In my opinion (it's not all that of a reach in opinion, many think this) they were never as good as they were on the first album.
I think Dave is kind of a d-bag though, in interviews Sammy seems like a much more down to Earth, cool guy. Whether he really is or not I don't know, but he seems like a nice guy. So musically it's Dave, but if I were to choose one to hang out with it would be Sammy, plus you know he's got some tequila around at all times.
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As far as music goes, David Lee Roth. Van Halen was just better in the beginning, and the longer they kept going the more synth-driven they became, which I don't like. In my opinion (it's not all that of a reach in opinion, many think this) they were never as good as they were on the first album.
I think Dave is kind of a d-bag though, in interviews Sammy seems like a much more down to Earth, cool guy. Whether he really is or not I don't know, but he seems like a nice guy. So musically it's Dave, but if I were to choose one to hang out with it would be Sammy, plus you know he's got some tequila around at all times.
I think both singers suffer from chronic cases of LSD. Both are just so caught up in their image that I can't take either seriously at all. That fits with the Roth era, but Hagar has always been full of shit and tried to play it cool.
fuck both of them! its all about gary cherone baby!! VHIII is a masterpiece.
i'm joking
i really like both era's of VH.
i grew up listening to sammy. my dad has always been a big hagar fan and it was the only vh i knew growing up.
its hard for me to say because its almost like two different bands.
i find the DLR albums are a bit more solid. besides 5150, i have a hard time listening to the sammy albums all the way through. but with the DLR albums i can put them on and don't have to skip any songs. but at the same time i like the good sammy songs more than the good DLR songs. see my problem???
i'll go with sammy because he's cooler and a better singer.
Within Van Halen, I like the DLR stuff better, however I think Sammy's a much better singer/musician, and all around a guy I'd much rather hang out with.
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well in high school we'd hang out at my buddy's grandma's house who lived up the hill from dave and throw lemons at his house...i think he threw some back one time
The band's peak was without question during the DLR era...but it also went to shit during the DLR era...with the mindless pop claptrap known as "Jump".
The Hagar era produced some decent music, OU812 easily the best album. Though the best song they created was "Humans Being" from the Twister soundtrack.
Roth is a marginal singer, utltimate frontman in the late 70's/early 80's. Hagar a better vocalist, also a bit of a clown. Cherone by far the best vocalist of the 3...in fact I saw all 3 grace the same stage one night, during the Mansfield stop of the Hagar/Roth tour (back in 2002 I think). Gary joined Sammy (and Michael Anthony) for a couple of songs. Far better voice than either of the other 2, but it was doomed from the start to fail, VH fans just couldn't accept Gary.
EVH is nearly as big a headcase as Axl Rose and his ego with an assist from Alex did damage to the band at different points over the years.
The reunited band put on a good enough show (saw them twice, Eddie was in very good form), but the whole Wolfgang thing just shows that EVH's ego still rules all, and Michael Anthony got shafted by the whole process.
But if i were to compile a list of the 10 best VH songs, 8 or 9 would be from the Roth era.
Of course "Intruder" would top the list which tells the real story of who the best singer is, its Frankenstrat.
Good to see not everyone is down on Gary Cherone. I thought he was not a good fit for VH, but who is. It would be like Aerosmith trying to replace Steven Tyler. Everyone usually thinks of him as the guy with the falsetto singing More than Words, but he's a great rock singer too. I still say though that Extreme had the best performance for the Freddy Mercury Tribute Concert.
As far as between Sammy or Dave, I know it's wimping out but for me it's really a tossup. The first album I really got into by VH was 1984, and it's still probably my favorite, but 5150 is probably my second favorite. Dave's the better frontman though.
Who? :?
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Saw them once and he had on ass-less chaps with his neked cheeks hanging out!!!
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totally....and the debate rages on
Don't get me wrong, Van Hagar did some good stuff, but for me, its no contest.
Dave...while talented... is a goof. Sammy is the "Brian Johnson" of VH. The "grown up" versiom of Van Halen is Sammy's version. Dave is an entertainer...Sammy is a musician! End of story.
I choose Roth because I like the raw less produced sound of the music.
I think Dave is kind of a d-bag though, in interviews Sammy seems like a much more down to Earth, cool guy. Whether he really is or not I don't know, but he seems like a nice guy. So musically it's Dave, but if I were to choose one to hang out with it would be Sammy, plus you know he's got some tequila around at all times.
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I think both singers suffer from chronic cases of LSD. Both are just so caught up in their image that I can't take either seriously at all. That fits with the Roth era, but Hagar has always been full of shit and tried to play it cool.
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i'm joking
i really like both era's of VH.
i grew up listening to sammy. my dad has always been a big hagar fan and it was the only vh i knew growing up.
its hard for me to say because its almost like two different bands.
i find the DLR albums are a bit more solid. besides 5150, i have a hard time listening to the sammy albums all the way through. but with the DLR albums i can put them on and don't have to skip any songs. but at the same time i like the good sammy songs more than the good DLR songs. see my problem???
i'll go with sammy because he's cooler and a better singer.
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