Protest shows violence and hate in AZ
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throw bottles at the cops and insult them. then call them the next day because your neighbors dog shit in your yard. idiots.0
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mb262200 wrote:scb wrote:mb262200 wrote:Not that hard, all you gotta do is youtube it. but here it is. By the way, you don't see this shit at any of the tea parties that you claim are so racist and violent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgZDYNQEwlM
Why all the comparisons of the Tea Parties to the protesters of the AZ law? What's the point? Do you actually think if one group does something wrong then the other group is automatically exalted? It sounds like little kids at a playground. One kid calls someone names and gets in trouble for it and then when another kid trips someone the first kid says, "Oh yeah? Well HE tripped someone!!" as if that means it's now okay for him to continue to call people names. Where's the grown up logic here?
Because if a bottle was thrown at a tea party and hit a cop it would have been played on MSNBC 1,000 fucking time already and there would be a 1,000 fucking pages on this forum about it. But when it comes to violence at an illegal immigration rally SUDENLY violence doesn't matter anymore. MORE DOUBLE STANDARD FUCKING LIBERALISM! DRIVES ME FUCKING CRAZY! :crazy:
Did you hang around to the end of the video to see what the Fox reporter had to say? After the student leader condoned the bottle throwing, the reporter said nobody was hurt, most of the people weren't participating in any sort of violence, and the next step was legal challenges and more peaceful protest. Meanwhile, the guy who threw the bottle was arrested (as he should've been). Was the guy who threw the bottle in the wrong? Hell yeah - violence is nothing more than a waste of energy, it does nothing but rile up your opponent even more and ensure you move further and further away from a resolution.
There you have it - I'm a liberal, and I'm personally saying the guy who threw the bottle was wrong to do so. Feel free to feel a little less crazy.And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.0 -
mb262200 wrote:scb wrote:mb262200 wrote:Not that hard, all you gotta do is youtube it. but here it is. By the way, you don't see this shit at any of the tea parties that you claim are so racist and violent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgZDYNQEwlM
Why all the comparisons of the Tea Parties to the protesters of the AZ law? What's the point? Do you actually think if one group does something wrong then the other group is automatically exalted? It sounds like little kids at a playground. One kid calls someone names and gets in trouble for it and then when another kid trips someone the first kid says, "Oh yeah? Well HE tripped someone!!" as if that means it's now okay for him to continue to call people names. Where's the grown up logic here?
Because if a bottle was thrown at a tea party and hit a cop it would have been played on MSNBC 1,000 fucking time already and there would be a 1,000 fucking pages on this forum about it. But when it comes to violence at an illegal immigration rally SUDENLY violence doesn't matter anymore. MORE DOUBLE STANDARD FUCKING LIBERALISM! DRIVES ME FUCKING CRAZY! :crazy:
How can you suggest in a thread where people are up in arms about bottle-throwing that there aren't threads and people up in arms about the bottle-throwing? :?
I just think people's actions should be judged on the merits or lack thereof of the actions themselves. What other people do doesn't have any bearing on what's inappropriate.Post edited by _ on0 -
jasongoz wrote:throw bottles at the cops and insult them. then call them the next day because your neighbors dog shit in your yard. idiots.
Cut a gas line at a politician's house and invite fellow activists to "stop by" (even though they got the wrong house), then call him when you want him to vote a certain way. Idiots.And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.0 -
inmytree wrote:jasongoz wrote:throw bottles at the cops and insult them. then call them the next day because your neighbors dog shit in your yard. idiots.
wow...the person who threw the bottle called the cops the next day...about dog shit...
that's just plain crazy...
Yeah, but you should've seen the size of the turd...
And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.0 -
cajunkiwi wrote:If people needed to pass a literacy test to live in America, a good number of people born and raised in the 50 states would have to be shipped back to England (good god people, is it THAT hard to figure out the difference between "your" and "you're"? Not only that, but "I could care less" doesn't make any bloody sense. To paraphrase Inigo Montoya, I do not think that phrase means what you think it means). :thumbup: 0
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inmytree wrote:jasongoz wrote:throw bottles at the cops and insult them. then call them the next day because your neighbors dog shit in your yard. idiots.
wow...the person who threw the bottle called the cops the next day...about dog shit...
that's just plain crazy...
im pointing out that cops get shit all the time yet they still serve the publics needs no matter what.0 -
jasongoz wrote:inmytree wrote:jasongoz wrote:throw bottles at the cops and insult them. then call them the next day because your neighbors dog shit in your yard. idiots.
wow...the person who threw the bottle called the cops the next day...about dog shit...
that's just plain crazy...
im pointing out that cops get shit all the time yet they still serve the publics needs no matter what.
why didn't you say so in the first place...?
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I was answering a question....g under p wrote:aerial wrote:Well we haven’t chained ourselves to anything yet but if it works we may as well....but I do think they had something to do with getting some democrats out of the White House. Just buy having PEACEFUL protest.....
So am to understand that for a group to have a PEACEFUL protest it has to be done like how the Tea Party does their protesting for it to be acceptable to you?
Other than you who here has a problem with protest of chaining oneself to district offices or sitins etc? I thought your problem with this protest was the *violent* nature of the protest in starting this thread. However, you still have problems when it is non violent and just a matter of civil disobedience of being chained.
Peace“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln0 -
scb wrote:mb262200 wrote:Not that hard, all you gotta do is youtube it. but here it is. By the way, you don't see this shit at any of the tea parties that you claim are so racist and violent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgZDYNQEwlM
Why all the comparisons of the Tea Parties to the protesters of the AZ law? What's the point? Do you actually think if one group does something wrong then the other group is automatically exalted? It sounds like little kids at a playground. One kid calls someone names and gets in trouble for it and then when another kid trips someone the first kid says, "Oh yeah? Well HE tripped someone!!" as if that means it's now okay for him to continue to call people names. Where's the grown up logic here?
Because if a bottle was thrown at a tea party and hit a cop it would have been played on MSNBC 1,000 fucking time already and there would be a 1,000 fucking pages on this forum about it. But when it comes to violence at an illegal immigration rally SUDENLY violence doesn't matter anymore. MORE DOUBLE STANDARD FUCKING LIBERALISM! DRIVES ME FUCKING CRAZY! :crazy:[/quote]
Not trying to justify the bottle throwing- Which I agree- its stupid. It seems to be some stupid kids.
But this is one of the reason's the vast majority of people don't like the tea party groups...Now this is sad
Oh cry me a freaking river!..the protesters are yelling at him.....the guy put himself there looking to get a reaction...... Who knows what he said to the protesters....in fact he probably called out some racial slurs and spit on them ....Have you seen the Video of Obamas thugs from SEIU beating up a Tea Party patron and calling him the N word as the 3 guys beat him? Why was this not in the lame stream media? and nothing from Obama announcing how they acted stupidly...tonifig8 wrote:Post edited by aerial on“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln0 -
aerial wrote:
Oh cry me a freaking river!.....the guy put himself there looking to get a reaction......do you think it more appropriate to throw a bottle at his head? Who knows what he said to the protesters....in fact he probably called out some racial slurs and spit on them ....tonifig8 wrote:
Cry you a river? You make it seem like what happen was ok.... I do not agree with the bottle throwing - and I think it's horrible. But I would rather be hit with a bottle then to be dehumanized like that - That is scaring for life, why would anyone want to live in a world that treats people like that? You really have to have some hate inside of you to do such a thing......0 -
Yes I hate liars....I hate the fact that people try and make the Tea Party out to be racists violent haters....and I hate the fact people call people they don’t know haterstonifig8 wrote:aerial wrote:
Oh cry me a freaking river!.....the guy put himself there looking to get a reaction......do you think it more appropriate to throw a bottle at his head? Who knows what he said to the protesters....in fact he probably called out some racial slurs and spit on them ....tonifig8 wrote:
Cry you a river? You make it seem like what happen was ok.... I do not agree with the bottle throwing - and I think it's horrible. But I would rather be hit with a bottle then to be dehumanized like that - That is scaring for life, why would anyone want to live in a world that treats people like that? You really have to have some hate inside of you to do such a thing......“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln0 -
aerial wrote:tonifig8 wrote:
Yes I hate liars....I hate the fact that people try and make the Tea Party out to be racists violent haters....and I hate the fact people call people they don’t know hatersaerial wrote:
Cry you a river? You make it seem like what happen was ok.... I do not agree with the bottle throwing - and I think it's horrible. But I would rather be hit with a bottle then to be dehumanized like that - That is scaring for life, why would anyone want to live in a world that treats people like that? You really have to have some hate inside of you to do such a thing......
Well I'm not calling you a hater, at least not yet, but what happened in that video is disgusting and even if that sick man would have spat on the tea party folks, it still doesn't deserve that type of dehumanization...... they treated him like an animal.... its completely disheartening....Imagine yourself in that position-
Another thing, I am assuming you are a member or at least a support the tea party movement- Can you answer me something - if the tea party movement is about small government or less social programs- why aren't they giving up there Social Security checks, there medicare,, etc..etc... ? that would be a strong statement..... But none of them are willing to do that, so why aren't they willing to accept Universal Health care and what not.... I don't understand that..0 -
...first of all your ability of assumption is mystifying.aerial wrote:Oh cry me a freaking river!..the protesters are yelling at him.....the guy put himself there looking to get a reaction...... Who knows what he said to the protesters....in fact he probably called out some racial slurs and spit on them ....Have you seen the Video of Obamas thugs from SEIU beating up a Tea Party patron and calling him the N word as the 3 guys beat him? Why was this not in the lame stream media? and nothing from Obama announcing how they acted stupidly...
Secondly... weren't they all white in that video?
oh and thirdly, I will always be dumbfounded on how many of these Americans attribute healthcare to communism... its hilarious! Do they realise other countries with established health care systems just look at them and laugh?live pearl jam is best pearl jam0 -
aerial wrote:Yes I hate liars....I hate the fact that people try and make the Tea Party out to be racists violent haters....and I hate the fact people call people they don’t know haters
People might be getting to know your thoughts from the types of threads you start. Your threads ARE beginning to have a hateful theme to them. :geek:&&&&&&&&&&&&&&0 -
aerial wrote:Yes I hate liars....I hate the fact that people try and make the Tea Party out to be racists violent haters....and I hate the fact people call people they don’t know haters
I find it fascinating that you are so... passionate... about the Tea Party. I mean it seems like no matter what discussion we are having, you bring up the Tea Party and get all up in arms defending them - even if no one's attacking them. Why is that? And were you this passionate about other things before the Tea Party provided this opportunity to get so strongly behind something? I'm really just curious.0 -
haffajappa wrote:
...first of all your ability of assumption is mystifying.aerial wrote:Oh cry me a freaking river!..the protesters are yelling at him.....the guy put himself there looking to get a reaction...... Who knows what he said to the protesters....in fact he probably called out some racial slurs and spit on them ....Have you seen the Video of Obamas thugs from SEIU beating up a Tea Party patron and calling him the N word as the 3 guys beat him? Why was this not in the lame stream media? and nothing from Obama announcing how they acted stupidly...
Secondly... weren't they all white in that video?
oh and thirdly, I will always be dumbfounded on how many of these Americans attribute healthcare to communism... its hilarious! Do they realise other countries with established health care systems just look at them and laugh?
What do you know? You're Canadian! According to the media here, your healthcare system is horrible and people can't wait to cross the border to get seen to by REAL doctors (even though Sarah Palin admitted to sneaking into Canada to get healthcare)
In NZ, we have fully socialized healthcare and it works great. The government pays all of your medical bills (so there's no need for health insurance - though you have the option of buying health insurance plans if you want to use a private hospital instead of a public one). If you're hurt in an accident you are not allowed to sue, but, once again, the government will pay 100% of your health care bills. Socialized healthcare hasn't led to the country going bankrupt (on the contrary, we enjoy one of the highest standards of living in the world), and it hasn't led to scores of Kiwis dying in the streets because the system is collapsing around them (our public hospitals are actually really good). So, at the risk of threadjacking, I'm with you all the way on this.
Now, please continue with your regularly scheduled discussion about how Mexicans are racist because they protested an anti-Mexican bill...And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.0
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