By the same reasoning you can say that pirates back in the day were Rosicrucians, since they prominently used skulls and bones in their pirate flags.
Hey look-y look-y what i found, dan.
Not that i haven't already provided ample suggestive plausibility of the direct nature of the relationship of the Knights Templar, the original Pirates, and the Freemasons ...
but here you go ...
"In the lecture that sums up the initiation of a new Master Mason, the newly admitted candidate is told that this degree 'will make you a brother to pirates and corsairs.'
PS - this book was written by a fellow who wasn't even interested in Freemasonry, so it isn't just slanderous. He was TRYING to write a book better explaining a peasant revolt\uprising in Europe in 1381 ... he ended up being "forced" to conclude, due to records of the time and direct statements from partisipants, that it was initiated by a secret brotherhood ... a theory with ample evidence to back up the suggestion.
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If I opened it now would you not understand?
Hey look-y look-y what i found, dan.
Not that i haven't already provided ample suggestive plausibility of the direct nature of the relationship of the Knights Templar, the original Pirates, and the Freemasons ...
You have referenced a book or two that speculate rather wildly on the subject, yes.... Whose author is reckoned not so much for his deductive skills, as he is just relates sources he hear of uncritically.
but here you go ...
"In the lecture that sums up the initiation of a new Master Mason, the newly admitted candidate is told that this degree 'will make you a brother to pirates and corsairs.'
Top of my head, it's a fancy way of saying that by accepting to head the masons, you make yourself an outlaw, hunted by the Church and so forth. (Just like pirates and corsairs) It's rather weak evidence for what you claim, though.
PS - this book was written by a fellow who wasn't even interested in Freemasonry, so it isn't just slanderous. He was TRYING to write a book better explaining a peasant revolt\uprising in Europe in 1381 ... he ended up being "forced" to conclude, due to records of the time and direct statements from partisipants, that it was initiated by a secret brotherhood ... a theory with ample evidence to back up the suggestion.
This is still about events in the same time-frame as the hunting down of the templars. Maybe a peasant revolt was pay-back against the rulers by descendants of those persecuted. Maybe it was just a local conspiracy aimed at the king, who knows? But going from there to Caribbean piracy in the 1700s without breaking a sweat, now that's implausible.
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Dan
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Had a major setback over the weekend and havent been able to read 1 page of the book! I only have it til the 6th. Tonight, I plan on jumping into bed early and see what I can grasp of this thing
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Hey look-y look-y what i found, dan.
Not that i haven't already provided ample suggestive plausibility of the direct nature of the relationship of the Knights Templar, the original Pirates, and the Freemasons ...
but here you go ...
"In the lecture that sums up the initiation of a new Master Mason, the newly admitted candidate is told that this degree 'will make you a brother to pirates and corsairs.'
[source seems to be: Born in Blood: The Lost Secrets of Freemasonry]
Hmm.
I WONDER what that could mean? :roll:
PS - this book was written by a fellow who wasn't even interested in Freemasonry, so it isn't just slanderous. He was TRYING to write a book better explaining a peasant revolt\uprising in Europe in 1381 ... he ended up being "forced" to conclude, due to records of the time and direct statements from partisipants, that it was initiated by a secret brotherhood ... a theory with ample evidence to back up the suggestion.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
here here! i love seeing your posts. gives me something to do at work and something to think about
Top of my head, it's a fancy way of saying that by accepting to head the masons, you make yourself an outlaw, hunted by the Church and so forth. (Just like pirates and corsairs) It's rather weak evidence for what you claim, though.
This is still about events in the same time-frame as the hunting down of the templars. Maybe a peasant revolt was pay-back against the rulers by descendants of those persecuted. Maybe it was just a local conspiracy aimed at the king, who knows? But going from there to Caribbean piracy in the 1700s without breaking a sweat, now that's implausible.
Peace
Dan
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