Illegal alien murders Arizona rancher

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edited April 2010 in A Moving Train
http://www.azstarnet.com/news/local/cri ... 03286.html

While investigators don't have a motive yet, retaliation has been raised as a possibility, Dever said. The day before the shooting, the victim's brother, Phil Krentz, reported drug smuggling activity on the ranch to the Border Patrol.
Agents found 290 pounds of marijuana on the ranch and followed tracks to where they found and arrested eight illegal immigrants, said Border Patrol Tucson Sector deputy chief Robert Boatright. None were prosecuted because of a lack of evidence. They were all in custody when the shooting occurred, he said.

Maybe someday a government that is elected will do something about this, although I doubt one will anytime soon.
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  • Starfall
    Starfall Posts: 548
    Legalize marijuana. That'll take care of the problem.
    "It's not hard to own something. Or everything. You just have to know that it's yours, and then be willing to let it go." - Neil Gaiman, "Stardust"
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    That makes no sense. They will just run cocaine/heroin/whatever else up the pipe. That is not the answer.
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    unsung wrote:
    Maybe someday a government that is elected will do something about this, although I doubt one will anytime soon.

    So, what is your solution to stop the cross country drug running?
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    blackredyellow wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    Maybe someday a government that is elected will do something about this, although I doubt one will anytime soon.

    So, what is your solution to stop the cross country drug running?

    About 20 old F-14's armed to the teeth with old military ordnance and use them to patrol the borders,
    the drug lords across the border have a endless supply of fire power and the only way to put a dent
    in drug trafficing across the border is to out gun them and a old F-14 would do just that. :D

    Godfather.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I'd bring the National Guard back from Iraq and stick them on the southern border.

    That border and the people crossing it are more of a threat to this country than Iraq.
  • Shawshank
    Shawshank Posts: 1,018
    unsung wrote:
    I'd bring the National Guard back from Iraq and stick them on the southern border.

    That border and the people crossing it are more of a threat to this country than Iraq.

    +1
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    If we cut off the border completely as some of you think, do you realize the impact on our economy?
    CONservative governMENt

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,424
    unsung wrote:
    Maybe someday a government that is elected will do something about this, although I doubt one will anytime soon.
    relax, obama is tackling immigration next. assuming the republicans don't play ball again, which they probably won't since it is a southern issue and they won't even help their own if it means government involvement and increased taxes to patrol said borders....but yeah, blame the government... :roll: :lol:
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,424
    unsung wrote:
    I'd bring the National Guard back from Iraq and stick them on the southern border.

    That border and the people crossing it are more of a threat to this country than Iraq.
    i support this too. but i think we are going to need that national guard in places like michigan for when these militia guys start attacking cops and blowing shit up...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    unsung wrote:
    I'd bring the National Guard back from Iraq and stick them on the southern border.

    That border and the people crossing it are more of a threat to this country than Iraq.

    I agree... I'm not crazy about closing off the boarders for undocumented workers, but I'm all for cracking down on the drugs going across our boarder.

    Legalize pot, and focus our efforts stopping the smuggling of the hardcore drugs.
    My whole life
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    of a sunny day
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  • cajunkiwi
    cajunkiwi Posts: 984
    unsung wrote:
    That makes no sense. They will just run cocaine/heroin/whatever else up the pipe. That is not the answer.

    It's such a shame that they bring drugs into America and then have to stand around wondering why nobody will buy them.

    The war on drugs has to be fought on two fronts - you've got to take care of supply and demand at the same time, or else you'll never come close to fixing the problem.
    And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    cajunkiwi wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    That makes no sense. They will just run cocaine/heroin/whatever else up the pipe. That is not the answer.

    It's such a shame that they bring drugs into America and then have to stand around wondering why nobody will buy them.

    The war on drugs has to be fought on two fronts - you've got to take care of supply and demand at the same time, or else you'll never come close to fixing the problem.

    that's true, we have to start somewhere and cutting off the supply will cut down the demand.
    it's sad that there will always be drug problems of some sort.

    Godfather.
  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    Godfather. wrote:
    cajunkiwi wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    That makes no sense. They will just run cocaine/heroin/whatever else up the pipe. That is not the answer.

    It's such a shame that they bring drugs into America and then have to stand around wondering why nobody will buy them.

    The war on drugs has to be fought on two fronts - you've got to take care of supply and demand at the same time, or else you'll never come close to fixing the problem.

    that's true, we have to start somewhere and cutting off the supply will cut down the demand.
    it's sad that there will always be drug problems of some sort.

    Godfather.


    obviously the US government has no intention or desire to do this since we are protecting 1 of the biggest, if not the biggest, heroin trafficker in the world with our tax money in afghanistan
    don't compete; coexist

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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
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    and not even obama can stop it. :roll:

    Godfather.
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    I don't know how to stop it. Do you think cutting off the supply completely will help, or is education and treatment at home a better option?
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  • puremagic
    puremagic Posts: 1,907
    Drug trafficking and illegal crossings, especially via Arizona and Texas are lucrative enterprises for the landowners, businesses and officials along the US border. 90% of the time, the only reason to kill is greed or betrayal, because drugs and illegals are replaceable. Why do you think there is no outcry from small businesses to large corporations for immigration reform!!! Hell, I-10 and I-95 are the drug toll roads of America [AZ, TX and FL], nothing like untraceable money to make you look the other way, or stop the construction of a wall.
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  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    keeponrockin wrote:
    I don't know how to stop it. Do you think cutting off the supply completely will help, or is education and treatment at home a better option?

    I don't think you can cut off the drug supply of any illegal drug completly. And everytime you make it smaller by those making record setting drug busts, all you do is increase the price that the dealers can sell what they still have for. I mean everytime I see one of those police press conferences where they have a bunch of bricks of coke laid out on a table, all I can think of is how the price of cocaine just went up and the dealers and suppliers are going to make more money.
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    keeponrockin wrote:
    I don't know how to stop it. Do you think cutting off the supply completely will help, or is education and treatment at home a better option?

    I don't think you can cut off the drug supply of any illegal drug completly. And everytime you make it smaller by those making record setting drug busts, all you do is increase the price that the dealers can sell what they still have for. I mean everytime I see one of those police press conferences where they have a bunch of bricks of coke laid out on a table, all I can think of is how the price of cocaine just went up and the dealers and suppliers are going to make more money.
    Exactly. So I think you need to TRY to slow demand.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    keeponrockin wrote:
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    keeponrockin wrote:
    I don't know how to stop it. Do you think cutting off the supply completely will help, or is education and treatment at home a better option?

    I don't think you can cut off the drug supply of any illegal drug completly. And everytime you make it smaller by those making record setting drug busts, all you do is increase the price that the dealers can sell what they still have for. I mean everytime I see one of those police press conferences where they have a bunch of bricks of coke laid out on a table, all I can think of is how the price of cocaine just went up and the dealers and suppliers are going to make more money.
    Exactly. So I think you need to TRY to slow demand.


    have you seen the documentary the american drug war by kevin booth?

    http://americandrugwar.com/

    i see he has a new movie coming out, too

    anyway, the american drug war is really good and takes a look at how drugs are treated in the us, canada and the netherlands. it says the netherlands actually has a lower % of teens and young adults that smoke pot than the us and lower hard drug use.

    it's ridiculous to think we spend tens of billions a year on the war on drugs on top of what the states pay
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    relax, obama is tackling immigration next. assuming the republicans don't play ball again, which they probably won't since it is a southern issue and they won't even help their own if it means government involvement and increased taxes to patrol said borders....but yeah, blame the government... :roll: :lol:

    yeah he is going to offer them amnesty. F-THAT.

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