Dispatches - Children of Gaza

Byrnzie

http://www.imemc.org/index.php?obj_id=53&story_id=57756

Soldiers Kidnap 15 Palestinians In Less Than Two Days

Tuesday January 26, 2010 01:25author by Saed Bannoura - IMEMC News


Local sources reported that on Monday, at dawn, soldiers kidnapped five Palestinians in the southern West Bank city of Hebron.

Two of them were kidnapped near the Ibrahimi Mosque in the center of Hebron. They were violently attacked and beaten by the soldiers who stopped them at a roadblock in the Old City.

One of them was identified as Anis Majid Al Rajabi, 20. He suffered several bruises and concussions after being attacked by the soldiers, and was moved to the Ezion military camp, north of Hebron.

Soldiers also kidnapped Dia’ Al Ja’bary, 22, after stopping him at a roadblock in the city and moved him to Ezion camp.

Three more Palestinians, two of them identified as Kamel Al Hammoury and Bilal Al Sharabty, were kidnapped in Bab Al Zawiya area in the center of Hebron.

Furthermore, soldiers invaded the town of Tarqoumia, west of Hebron, and handed a resident a military order for questioning.

The soldiers broke into his home and ransacked it, before handing him the order.

Soldiers also kidnapped two residents in Arraba village, near the northern West Bank city of Jenin. The two were arrested after the army broke into and ransacked their homes also.

They were identified as Mansour Iz Ed-Deen and Mohammad Shqeir. Their families were forced out of their homes for several hours while the army searched the property.

In addition soldiers fired concussion grenades and gas bombs to terrorize the residents, local sources reported.

In the central West bank city of Ramallah, soldiers kidnapped nine Palestinians described by the army as persons named on their “wanted list”. They were all moved to interrogation centers, an Israeli army spokesperson said.

On Sunday, Israeli soldiers arrested nine laborers from the Al Khader village, near Bethlehem, after violently attacking them.

The workers were initially detained in front of Al Zayyim roadblock, in East Jerusalem. They were reported to be on their way to Jerusalem, attempting to find work to support their families.

The army said the workers did not carry the permits that allow Palestinian residents of the West Bank to enter Israel. The soldiers struck them with their rifles and batons, in addition to kicking and punching them.

They suffered concussions and fractures to several parts of their bodies.

http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2007/10/0 ... ince-1967/
700,000 Palestinians were kidnapped since 1967
2007.10.09

The Ministry of Detainees and Freed Detaineesaffirmed that the Israeli army had abducted around 60,000 residents; around ten thousand and five hundred of them are still imprisoned in Israeli jails, in addition to 543 who are detained before the outbreak of the current Intifada.

Some of the residents were abducted from hospitals and emergency vehicles. Even Ministers and lawmakers were also abducted.

In addition to the Israeli military ships had abducted hundreds of the Palestinian fishermen in the Gaza Strip.

The report also noted that that Israeli army had abducted 700 Palestinian females during the Intifada, 110 of them are still imprisoned, and also abducted more than 6500 children, hundreds of them are still in the Israeli jails.

He said that since the Israeli soldier Gilad Shaleet was captured in the Gaza Strip in June 2006 until September 2007, the Israeli army had kidnapped more than nine thousand residents with the average of thirty residents per day.

In the report Farawneh compared the abductions that were carried out during the first Intifada (1987-1994) the Israeli army had abducted around 200,000 of residents at the average of 30 thousand per year.


http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article11120.shtml
Amir, ten years old, abducted by Israeli soldiers from his bed
Nora Barrows-Friedman writing from Hebron, occupied West Bank, Live from Palestine, 8 March 2010

'..Hours after our interview, at 2am, Israeli soldiers would break into the house, snatch Amir from his bed, threaten his parents with death by gunfire if they tried to protect him, and take him downstairs under the stairwell. They would beat him so badly that he would bleed internally into his abdomen, necessitating overnight hospitalization. In complete shock and distress, Amir would not open his mouth to speak for another day and a half.

"Two of the soldiers stopped us and handcuffed us," Amir said. "They brought us to two separate jeeps. They took me to the settlement and put me in a corner. I still had handcuffs on. They put a dog next to me. I said that I wanted to go home. They said no, and told me I would stay here forever. They refused to let me use the bathroom. They wouldn't let me call my mother. They blindfolded me and I stayed there like that until my father was able to come and get me late at night."

Amir's detention inside the settlement lasted nearly ten hours. "The only thing that I thought about was how afraid I was, especially with the dog beside me. I wanted to run away and go back to my house," he said.

http://www.paltelegraph.com/palestine/w ... rom-hebron
Israel kidnaps 9 Palestinians from Hebron

Monday, 22 March 2010 11:36 Added by PT Editor maysaa jarour


ki4Hebron, March 22, 2010 (Pal Telegraph) - Israeli occupation forces today kidnapped nine citizens from Dura village, southwest of Hebron in the occupied West Bank.

Security sources said to SAFA news agency that Israeli occupation forces detained the two brothers Amjad,32, and Shadi Al-Shahateet ,24 , after the raiding the town.

Also they kidnapped seven citizens, after raiding their homes in Khrsa village, south Dura.

The seven detainees are: Ali Kamel Abu Mliha Amr and his brother Ahmed, Hossam Mahmoud Abu Sharar, Louay Azmi Obaid, Thaer Abd Al-Aziz Obeid, Ayman Hassan Hantash, and Mohamed Ahmed Atabish.

Sources from Kharsa village council said that about 15 of the occupation army vehicles raided the town and detained seven citizens and then transferred them to an unknown place.


http://palsolidarity.org/2008/07/3248
Palestinian farmer kidnapped, bound and abused by settlers
July 5, 2008

http://www.uruknet.info/?p=64352
IOF kidnap more than 250 Palestinians during current Aqsa Intifada
Palestinian Information Center
March 20, 2010

GAZA, (PIC)-- The Palestinian ministry of prisoners’ affairs stated Saturday that the Israeli occupation forces (IOF) kidnapped more than 250 Palestinians including 30 children under age 14 during the current Intifada (uprising) which broke out in defense of the Aqsa Mosque.

The ministry’s information office said that most of detainees were from the areas of Issawiya, Wadi Joz and Sawwanah and few of them were released on bail while many others would be detained for several days.

The office added that all the Palestinians who were taken prisoners during the recent clashes were maltreated, humiliated and severely beaten during detention...'


http://ramallahonline.com/component/con ... f-february
Israeli Army kidnapped 292 Palestinians from the W.B during the month of February
Monday, 02 March 2009
Ghassan Bannoura - RamallahOnline

The Palestinian Political detainees Society issued a report on Monday stating that the Israeli military have kidnapped 292 Palestinians during the month of February.

Of those 292 kidnapped, 35 were sick and 59 were children, in addition to four women, the report said.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=103891
Israeli troops 'kidnap' Palestinians for organs
Tue, 18 Aug 2009

A leading Swedish newspaper claims Israeli soldiers kidnap Palestinians to steal their organs and sell them in the black market.

In an article titled They plunder the organs of our sons, the daily Aftonbladet said Israeli soldiers abduct young Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza Strip and return their bodies to their families after removing their organs.

"Our sons are used as involuntary organ donors," relatives of Khalid a Palestinian man from Nablus told Donald Bostrom who authored the report.

He also reported the accounts of other Palestinians whose relatives are fallen the victim of the organ smuggling operation.

According to the report, all of the victims were killed and their bodies were autopsied.

The report also cited another similar incident in 1992, in which a young Palestinian activist was captured by Israeli soldiers in the Nablus area. The man was shot in the chest, both legs and the stomach and then transferred to "an unknown distention."

The man's body was found five nights later. "When Bilal was put into his grave, his chest was revealed and suddenly it became clear to the present what abuse he had been put through. Bilal was far from the only one who was buried cut-up from his stomach to his chin and the speculations about the reason why had already started," read the article.

The article also links the issue to a recently discovered crime syndicate in New Jersey, which was involved in organ smuggling. Several American rabbis were arrested in connection to the case.

badbrains

Every fucken time I read one of byrnzies or pepes stats I have to triple my Xanax intake..... :( :( :(

rebornFixer

polaris_x wrote:

dude ... i think you need to stop being so defensive ... i don't think anyone was jumping all over you ... no one called you any names or said anything derogatory ... it was just a simple statement ... you can't always look at every post as some continuation of conversations from before ...

Maybe so, but it gets frustrating after a while. And I was not thinking about previous threads at all, I was replying to a direct comment about my post. Anyhow, I'm chill.

rebornFixer

yosi wrote:

This is in no way meant to diminish in any way anyone's suffering, but I feel that since we are using this thread to mourn the victims of this conflict that it would be appropriate to mention something I saw last night. I'm in Jerusalem now, and I was watching the Israeli evening news. They had a long segment where they interviewed the parents of Gilad Shalit, the Israeli soldier who was kidnapped by Hamas and is being held captive in Gaza. He has now been a hostage for four years. He was kidnapped when he was 20, and he is now 24. He is literally being held no more than an hours drive from his parents home, and yet they haven't seen or spoken to him in four years. While the rest of the country was celebrating Passover, and sitting down to the Seder with their families, Gilad's parents were at home, alone, mourning for their son. At the seder I attended we included two prayers in addition to the traditional Seder text. The first was a prayer for peace. The second was a prayer for Gilad's safe and speedy return to his family.

+1. This man should be returned to his family.

Byrnzie

rebornFixer wrote:

yosi wrote:

This is in no way meant to diminish in any way anyone's suffering, but I feel that since we are using this thread to mourn the victims of this conflict that it would be appropriate to mention something I saw last night. I'm in Jerusalem now, and I was watching the Israeli evening news. They had a long segment where they interviewed the parents of Gilad Shalit, the Israeli soldier who was kidnapped by Hamas and is being held captive in Gaza. He has now been a hostage for four years. He was kidnapped when he was 20, and he is now 24. He is literally being held no more than an hours drive from his parents home, and yet they haven't seen or spoken to him in four years. While the rest of the country was celebrating Passover, and sitting down to the Seder with their families, Gilad's parents were at home, alone, mourning for their son. At the seder I attended we included two prayers in addition to the traditional Seder text. The first was a prayer for peace. The second was a prayer for Gilad's safe and speedy return to his family.

+1. This man should be returned to his family.

So should the 10,000 + Palestinians being held in Israeli jails without charge.


http://www.dci-pal.org/english/camp/fre ... ategoryId=
Palestinians held without charge or trial: the number is on the rise
February 06, 2008

[Ramallah] – The Palestinian Authority Director of Statistics reported Wednesday that 18,000 Palestinians were held in Israeli prisons without charge or trial during the Al Aqsa Intifada, beginning in September 2000.

Abdel Nasser Awni Farawana said today that women, children and the elderly are also being held under this draconian practice of Administrative Detention. Thousands of men, intellectuals and elected officials from the Palestinian Legislative Council and Palestinian government have also been held without charge or trial.

Administrative Detention is a way for the Israeli government to hold Palestinians in its prisons without cause, and the time period can be renewed at the discretion of Israeli forces.

The numbers of administrative detainees was raised in 2007 as the Israeli government increased its arrest policy. The raids are nightly, and tens are taken during each sweep. Despite two prisoner release agreements, the number arrested between the time of negotiations and the actual release increased.

Farawana reports that in 2007 the Israelis issued over 3,000 decisions for Administrative Detention, the highest rate since the year 1990.

There are numerous cases reported of Palestinians being held without charge or trial for up to five years or more, including children.

yosi

redrock wrote:

This is in no way to diminish the pain of the parents/family, but you cannot compare the plight of this soldier to the plight of the children of Gaza. I actually think it's a bit offensive.... The children are innocent. One can argue that they may find the soldier an innocent pawn but those are risks soldiers take in times of war.

He wasn't at war. He was patrolling the Gaza border and was kidnapped from inside Israeli territory. Yes, soldiers are at risk. That doesn't mean it is legitimate to cross into another country and kidnap soldiers to hold hostage indefinitely. And why presume that Gilad wasn't an innocent. Would you say that the American soldiers who were killed by that doctor who went on a shooting spree at their base in the U.S. weren't innocent victims? This is not so different. Gilad wasn't involved in an offensive military operation. He was simply watching the border when he and his comrades were ambushed, he was kidnapped, and his comrades were killed.

Also, I wasn't making a comparison. I was simply saying that there are many victims in this conflict, and I wanted to speak out for this particular one.

yosi

Byrnzie wrote:

http://www.imemc.org/index.php?obj_id=53&story_id=58249

Soldiers Kidnap a Palestinian Woman, Child, Near Jerusalem

Sunday March 21, 2010 10:05author by Saed Bannoura - IMEMC & Agencies

Eyewitnesses reported that the soldiers kidnapped Ibtisam Mustafa Abu Dayya, 42, a mother of six children, after she quarreled with the soldiers.

Troops violently attacked the woman before cuffing and blindfolding her.

Later on, the army kidnapped 14-year-old child during clashes that took place in the camp.

The army invaded the camp and clashed with dozens of residents. Soldiers fired rounds of live ammunition, rubber-coated bullets and gas bombs.

The army recently kidnapped more than 250 residents during clashes that took place after Israeli settlers inaugurated a synagogue near the Al Aqsa Mosque. Among the kidnapped residents were 30 children below the age of 14, and a number of reporters.

Here's why I can't take this seriously. The synagogue this is refering to is the "Hurva" (meaning destroyed) synagogue in the Jewish quarter of the Old City of Jerusalem. The synagogue was among the grandest in the city until it was utterly destroyed by the Palestinians/Jordanians when they conquered the Old City in 1948. Israel, not settlers, recently rebuilt the synagogue and rededicated it. It is only near the Al Aqsa Mosque if you consider anything inside the Old City as being near the Al Aqsa Mosque. In reality, and here I'm guessing purely based on the hundreds of times I've visited the Old City, this synagogue is at least half a mile from the Al Aqsa Mosque.


Now, clearly, the report about people being arrested could be true, but I have a hard time believing the veracity of this report given how utterly untruthful the rest of this report is.

yosi

And yes, Byrnzie, I agree that anyone being held in Israeli jails who are not guilty of any crimes should be released. But I have to ask you, why do you feel that you have to respond so angrily to what I wrote? This isn't a competition. It isn't as if only Israelis can be victims, or only Palestinians can be victims. I find it sad that rather than being open to mourning for the suffering on all sides you feel the need to respond in this manner, as if the recognition of the suffering of an Israeli family has to be buried and expunged by a recitation of all the Palestinians who suffer in this conflict. Are you so enraged and cold hearted that you can't empathize with this kid's parents, who have gone four years without seeing their son, knowing that he is literally being held just down the road?

polaris_x

rebornFixer wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

dude ... i think you need to stop being so defensive ... i don't think anyone was jumping all over you ... no one called you any names or said anything derogatory ... it was just a simple statement ... you can't always look at every post as some continuation of conversations from before ...

Maybe so, but it gets frustrating after a while. And I was not thinking about previous threads at all, I was replying to a direct comment about my post. Anyhow, I'm chill.

i just don't think commy was trying to jump on you is all ...

Commy

rebornFixer wrote:

Here, maybe this will appease you:
Israel sucks. What a rogue state full of terrorists and babykillers.

Happy?
Seriously ... I cannot win with folks on here, because even when I make it painfully obvious that I think Israeli actions are wrong, I get jumped on for pointing out that I am happy that there was no excessive military response this time. THIS is why some people conclude that you guys are more interested in bashing than in actual solutions to the problem. Why not think before posting, Commy?

When you weigh in on the situation in Gaza, from what i've seen, its always to paint Israel in a positive light. In a sense what you post is pure propaganda, as there is reality and there is your point of view. That is why you are a target. End support for Israel, I could respect that man.


Israel is a racist zionist militant State, conducting a siege against an impoverished group of people, brutalizing and terrorizing every day. that is reality.

yosi

It must be very convenient that reality always accords with your own opinions, and that everyone who disagrees with you is so blatantly engaging in fantastical propagandizing. It must make for a very comfortable intellectual life, since you never have to struggle thinking about complex situations, or confront anything that challenges your worldview.

Commy

yosi wrote:

It must be very convenient that reality always accords with your own opinions, and that everyone who disagrees with you is so blatantly engaging in fantastical propagandizing. It must make for a very comfortable intellectual life, since you never have to struggle thinking about complex situations, or confront anything that challenges your worldview.

My opinions are based on facts. Something you tend to ignore, from what i've read.

Its like anything. you should find out as much information as you can on a subject and make up your own mind. Think for yourself.

yosi

I do. From what I've seen most of the people on these threads limit their exposure to facts to those sources that won't tell them anything they don't want to hear. What's great about Israel, which is where I am as I write this, is that in this country you can't avoid hearing every side of an argument. In the last day I've read articles bashing Obama and praising Bibi, articles bashing Bibi and praising Obama, and articles that bash both of them (I haven't seen anyone who praises them both, though). I've watched extensive news coverage on Israeli Network News of Israeli-Arab and Palestinian demonstrations, many of them joined by large numbers of left-wing Israelis. I can guarantee you that I know more about Israel and Judaism than anyone else on this board, which is why I have no problem saying that many people here while right to sympathize with the Palestinians, and often right to criticize Israel, a lot of the time just don't know what they're talking about.

redrock

yosi wrote:

II can guarantee you that I know more about Israel and Judaism than anyone else on this board.

That is a very pompous and arrogant statement! Because you are a jew and you are sometimes in Israel makes you the uber expert? Let me have a chuckle.

Commy

yosi wrote:

I do. From what I've seen most of the people on these threads limit their exposure to facts to those sources that won't tell them anything they don't want to hear. What's great about Israel, which is where I am as I write this, is that in this country you can't avoid hearing every side of an argument. In the last day I've read articles bashing Obama and praising Bibi, articles bashing Bibi and praising Obama, and articles that bash both of them (I haven't seen anyone who praises them both, though). I've watched extensive news coverage on Israeli Network News of Israeli-Arab and Palestinian demonstrations, many of them joined by large numbers of left-wing Israelis. I can guarantee you that I know more about Israel and Judaism than anyone else on this board, which is why I have no problem saying that many people here while right to sympathize with the Palestinians, and often right to criticize Israel, a lot of the time just don't know what they're talking about.

I've learned that Israeli's have a better understanding of the situation than most Americans. Not by being closer to the conflict but through an information system that isn't as corrupted as the US's. That does not account for the nationalist bias that accompanies most jewish rhetoric.

Israel spends 2 billion a year on "public relations" in the US. Public relations. 2 billion. A year. another term is propaganda. They know that if they lose their superpower bully/big brother they are an outcast in the international community, that they stand alone in their siege of Gaza. Even leftist television shows in the US are pro-Israel. Dissent does not exist in US media, regarding Israel's siege. US support is crucial, Israel knows this.

What Israel is doing in Gaza is a crime, and will be exposed soon. A serious fucking crime, every day brutality.

yosi

redrock wrote:

yosi wrote:

II can guarantee you that I know more about Israel and Judaism than anyone else on this board.

That is a very pompous and arrogant statement! Because you are a jew and you are sometimes in Israel makes you the uber expert? Let me have a chuckle.

Well let me see, yes I am a Jew, I grew up going to intensive Jewish day schools and summer camps my entire life where I had a dual curriculum studying a full load of Jewish courses in addition to all the secular courses. My family is religious and I've gone to synagogue every week on Friday night and Saturday morning my whole life. My father is a university professor in Jewish studies (as is his sister), and my mother runs a Jewish non-profit, and their entire circle of friends are Jewish many of them leading academics in Jewish fields, who would come over for Sabbath meals and spend hours discussing Jewish subjects. So yes, I feel very qualified in saying that I know more about Judaism and Jewish history then anyone else here, because quite frankly I know more about Judaism and Jewish history than most Jews.

As for Israel, yeah, I think the fact that I've spent truly significant amounts of time actually living in Israel, that my cousin was a supreme court justice and attorney general in Israel, and actually knew personally and has told me about many of the major Israeli historical figures, that I have friends and family who have served or who are serving in the IDF, that I've spent time in the West Bank and actually met with and spoken to at length Israeli-Arabs and Palestinians who actually live here, and that I devote a great deal of my time reading widely about Israel, and that I make a strong effort to read not just those sources that re-enforce my preexisting opinions, yeah, I think that is a fairly strong basis on which to say that I know more about Israel than anyone else here.

redrock

Mom, Dad, cousins, friends... etc. You're perceived self worth would make me laugh if it wasn't so sad. Hey... maybe I'm a Jewish scholar, from a family of scholars/religious people who lived in Israel for longer than you have lived your life. You just don't know. So stop putting yourself on a pedestal.

Living somewhere, speaking to people, going to jewish schools and reading does not make you an expert though it can put blinkers on.

Don't even bother responding to this post because I'm done discussing your 'expertise' and 'knowledge' so superior to all others here.

yosi

redrock wrote:

Mom, Dad, cousins, friends... etc. You're perceived self worth would make me laugh if it wasn't so sad. Hey... maybe I'm a Jewish scholar, from a family of scholars/religious people who lived in Israel for longer than you have lived your life. You just don't know. So stop putting yourself on a pedestal.

Living somewhere, speaking to people, going to jewish schools and reading does not make you an expert though it can put blinkers on.

Don't even bother responding to this post because I'm done discussing your 'expertise' and 'knowledge' so superior to all others here.

Are you an expert? If you are then I guess I'm wrong. If you're not, then it would seem that you just have a problem with the perceived "elitism" of someone who actually does have some degree of expertise and isn't afraid to say so. Seriously, you really think it's a winning argument to say that a bunch of non-Jews who probably have had no exposure to Judaism other than that they may no a few Jews have a deeper understanding of Judaism than a highly educated Jewish person who has spent his whole life studying Jewish subjects? That just doesn't make any rational sense.

Commy

yosi wrote:

redrock wrote:

Mom, Dad, cousins, friends... etc. You're perceived self worth would make me laugh if it wasn't so sad. Hey... maybe I'm a Jewish scholar, from a family of scholars/religious people who lived in Israel for longer than you have lived your life. You just don't know. So stop putting yourself on a pedestal.

Living somewhere, speaking to people, going to jewish schools and reading does not make you an expert though it can put blinkers on.

Don't even bother responding to this post because I'm done discussing your 'expertise' and 'knowledge' so superior to all others here.

Are you an expert? If you are then I guess I'm wrong. If you're not, then it would seem that you just have a problem with the perceived "elitism" of someone who actually does have some degree of expertise and isn't afraid to say so. Seriously, you really think it's a winning argument to say that a bunch of non-Jews who probably have had no exposure to Judaism other than that they may no a few Jews have a deeper understanding of Judaism than a highly educated Jewish person who has spent his whole life studying Jewish subjects? That just doesn't make any rational sense.

Either you know about it and dont' give a shit, or you dont' know about it. Either way its kind of fooked.


Gaza is under siege, and say what you will about Israel, without a superpower backing them they would be against the world in their siege of Gaza. Alone against the world.



And its every goddamn day that Isreali brutality is felt by the Palestinians, every single day. Its a fucking siege, apartheid, a crime against humanity.

badbrains

Well, Im a Muslim (not Arab), but my aunt married a palestinian and has 5 children. So I guess that makes me know MORE about Islam and the Palestinian suffering than most of the people here. I'm just not an "elitist".... :roll: