did some really compare the health care mandate to the paying the mafia for protection
but in reality the mandate was added for purely economics it is the only way to keep cost down healthy people need to be forced to pay into as cosmo said how much do think car insurance would cost if didn't have to buy and only got it you wanted it
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but not to get into a debate over identity, but simply put you are what you identify yourself as
he identified himself as a conservative, you are placing a different label on him
The only difference between Obama and Bush is skin color. Wars continued? Check. Patriot Act? Check? Massive spending? Check. Bending over the taxpayers? Check. Lobbyist abuses? Check.
did some really compare the health care mandate to the paying the mafia for protection
but in reality the mandate was added for purely economics it is the only way to keep cost down healthy people need to be forced to pay into as cosmo said how much do think car insurance would cost if didn't have to buy and only got it you wanted it
I understand the mandate for economic reasons. I also understand the mandate for entrenching the insurance company reasons. I think this part of the bill will make it take longer for single payer or a public option to be enacted.
Call me crazy, but I think after the way the insurance companies have raped and pilaged the citizens in the U.S., the last thing I would want to do is reward them with more clients.
For the love of god anyone who thinks George Bush was conservative must have been in a coma while he was President. I'm sure there are many nuthuggers in the teaparty movement who feel he was a great President. Myself, speaking as a conservative, he was an abysmal excuse for a President.
did some really compare the health care mandate to the paying the mafia for protection
but in reality the mandate was added for purely economics it is the only way to keep cost down healthy people need to be forced to pay into as cosmo said how much do think car insurance would cost if didn't have to buy and only got it you wanted it
Seriously. You think for a single moment that just because insurance companies are now going to have even more clients than they did before, that somehow costs are going to go down?
The other funny part of all this is, which many people fail to address, for years Republicans have been accused of being in the back pocket of big corporations, especially insurance companies. These accusations are justified in most cases. However, here we have what has to be the biggest windfall the insurance industry has ever seen with mandated coverage, and not a single Republican supported it. :roll:
For the love of god anyone who thinks George Bush was conservative must have been in a coma while he was President. I'm sure there are many nuthuggers in the teaparty movement who feel he was a great President. Myself, speaking as a conservative, he was an abysmal excuse for a President.
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I may not sound like it... but, I'm pretty conservative. I do not believe in political party agendas and believe that FOX News paints conservatism with an ugly color.
I didn't leave the Republican Party... the Republican Party... Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, Donald Rumsfeld, Condoleezza Rice and Paul Wolfowitz drove me away. Mostly when they went to bed with the fundamentalist Christian Coalition of Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. As a Conservative, I strongly oppose a theocratic government. Focus on you own fucking family and don't tell me how to run mine.
I also do not believe in American Global Imperialism camoflauged as 'Spreading Democracy'.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
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funny you say "focus on your own fucking family, don't tell me how to run mine" yet earlier, you were busting my chops over my opposition to required health insurance.. which is it? you obviously hate that form of intrusion.. you don't like when others try to make decisions for you? me neither...
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funny you say "focus on your own fucking family, don't tell me how to run mine" yet earlier, you were busting my chops over my opposition to required health insurance.. which is it? you obviously hate that form of intrusion.. you don't like when others try to make decisions for you? me neither...
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You can choose not to participate... just as you can choose not to wear a seatbelt when you are driving... choose not to buy auto insurance... choose not to pay taxes... choose to text while you are driving... choose to fire a gun in an airborne airliner... but, you have to understand that you will be breaking the law and you must accept the consequences of your decisions.
Religion in this country is not the law... and I believe religion should not be the authority to create law. All I have to do is look at the theocratic monarchies and governments of the Middle Ages and the Middle East as examples as to why the church should not be the body that creates the laws for all of its citizenry.
Legislation should be representative government meant to serve our society... to protect me and the other passengers from you firing your gun in the plane we are on.
Religion is meant to instill the prescribed view of morality based upon the decisions of religious leaders and their personal interpretations of Holy Texts.
The Government should not place one religions views as the basis of law to legislate their views of morality for all of us.
See the difference?
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
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You see alot of them now... they now call themselves, 'Independents'.
Hail, Hail!!!
spoken like a true tea party member
but not to get into a debate over identity, but simply put you are what you identify yourself as
he identified himself as a conservative, you are placing a different label on him
the only one that makes sense is Cosmo
did some really compare the health care mandate to the paying the mafia for protection
but in reality the mandate was added for purely economics it is the only way to keep cost down healthy people need to be forced to pay into as cosmo said how much do think car insurance would cost if didn't have to buy and only got it you wanted it
The only difference between Obama and Bush is skin color. Wars continued? Check. Patriot Act? Check? Massive spending? Check. Bending over the taxpayers? Check. Lobbyist abuses? Check.
Same old. Same old.
3 mores years to collect checks
I understand the mandate for economic reasons. I also understand the mandate for entrenching the insurance company reasons. I think this part of the bill will make it take longer for single payer or a public option to be enacted.
Call me crazy, but I think after the way the insurance companies have raped and pilaged the citizens in the U.S., the last thing I would want to do is reward them with more clients.
Seriously. You think for a single moment that just because insurance companies are now going to have even more clients than they did before, that somehow costs are going to go down?
The other funny part of all this is, which many people fail to address, for years Republicans have been accused of being in the back pocket of big corporations, especially insurance companies. These accusations are justified in most cases. However, here we have what has to be the biggest windfall the insurance industry has ever seen with mandated coverage, and not a single Republican supported it. :roll:
i still fail to see viable alternatives from Republicans even as they talk about repealing it
Who said anything about Income taxes, my dear?
"With our thoughts we make the world"
I may not sound like it... but, I'm pretty conservative. I do not believe in political party agendas and believe that FOX News paints conservatism with an ugly color.
I didn't leave the Republican Party... the Republican Party... Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, Donald Rumsfeld, Condoleezza Rice and Paul Wolfowitz drove me away. Mostly when they went to bed with the fundamentalist Christian Coalition of Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. As a Conservative, I strongly oppose a theocratic government. Focus on you own fucking family and don't tell me how to run mine.
I also do not believe in American Global Imperialism camoflauged as 'Spreading Democracy'.
Hail, Hail!!!
Abrn Hlls '98 - Clarkston 2 '03 - Grd Rpds '06 - Abrn Hlls '06 - Clvd '10 - PJ20 - Berlin 1+2 '12 - Wrigley '13 - Pitt '13- buff '13- Philly 1+2 '13 - Seattle '13
You can choose not to participate... just as you can choose not to wear a seatbelt when you are driving... choose not to buy auto insurance... choose not to pay taxes... choose to text while you are driving... choose to fire a gun in an airborne airliner... but, you have to understand that you will be breaking the law and you must accept the consequences of your decisions.
Religion in this country is not the law... and I believe religion should not be the authority to create law. All I have to do is look at the theocratic monarchies and governments of the Middle Ages and the Middle East as examples as to why the church should not be the body that creates the laws for all of its citizenry.
Legislation should be representative government meant to serve our society... to protect me and the other passengers from you firing your gun in the plane we are on.
Religion is meant to instill the prescribed view of morality based upon the decisions of religious leaders and their personal interpretations of Holy Texts.
The Government should not place one religions views as the basis of law to legislate their views of morality for all of us.
See the difference?
Hail, Hail!!!
Oh, I have not checked this thread for updates:
The original poster mentioned income taxes in his post!
I was not address you, Markin Ball. If I had been responding to any of your posts, I would have included the appropriate quotes.
You are totally right. My mistake. :oops:
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