What to do with my vinyl once i get it

Manimal

Hubmann2513 wrote:

I'm kinda in a dilema here. My parents and friends aren't as big as pj fans as i am. not even close actually. and they see how much the vinyl is going for on ebay and stuff right now, and they want me to basically sit on the vinyl to make money. That really isn't what i wanted to do with it originally. I guess what im wanting is your opinions, or what you all are going to do with your vinyl.

Maybe you should make record bowls out of them
http://victoria.craigslist.ca/hsh/535800489.html

hiding

Manimal wrote:

Maybe you should make record bowls out of them
http://victoria.craigslist.ca/hsh/535800489.html
idiot.

why are they idiots?
those could be crappy albums and at least they will be used for something.
not like there beny hall albums...

Manimal

hiding wrote:

why are they idiots?
those could be crappy albums and at least they will be used for something.
not like there beny hall albums...

I meant the person who started this thread was an idoit. Should have been clearer on that. Is it that tough a decision either keep a record you really like or go against what your favourite band stands for and sell it on ebay.

I think record bowls are cool..

Come Back in Black

Heat it, Roll it, and Smoke it!

Ms. Haiku

Hubmann2513 wrote:

I'm kinda in a dilema here. My parents and friends aren't as big as pj fans as i am. not even close actually. and they see how much the vinyl is going for on ebay and stuff right now, and they want me to basically sit on the vinyl to make money. That really isn't what i wanted to do with it originally. I guess what im wanting is your opinions, or what you all are going to do with your vinyl.

Frame it! Then, you put a cute little bistro table and chairs underneath it, and a couple ferns, et voila! Cuteness and color!

MarvelousMan

What to do with it? Play the damn thing! If you sell it on Ebay down the road for the sole purpose of making money for self greed than you're a fucking sellout.

I can't believe the audacity to start a thread with the idea you may sell it on Ebay someday.

Kel Varnsen

MarvelousMan wrote:

What to do with it? Play the damn thing! If you sell it on Ebay down the road for the sole purpose of making money for self greed than you're a fucking sellout.

I can't believe the audacity to start a thread with the idea you may sell it on Ebay someday.

Why does it bother you so much that someone is selling something they own? It is not like they broke into your house, stole your copy and then tried to sell it. I don't get why people get so upset about something that has almost zero affect on them.

restlesssoul

rip it open, throw it on the platter and enjoy! cant wait to do it myself.

Manimal

Kel Varnsen wrote:

Why does it bother you so much that someone is selling something they own? It is not like they broke into your house, stole your copy and then tried to sell it. I don't get why people get so upset about something that has almost zero affect on them.

Almost zero? Lots of people wanted this but got shut out. Plus if he bought it from the ten club, I'm pretty sure they would not look too kindly onto him flipping it. I don't know about you, but I'm a fan of Pearl Jam, I'm not just collecting their stuff to turn around and sell it on ebay. I bought the record to listen to and enjoy. IMO anyone considering to flip the record should drawn and quartered by 4 horses then their quarters should be drawn and quartered by four smaller horses and thoses quarters should be drawn and quartered by four frogs.

Kel Varnsen

Manimal wrote:

Almost zero? Lots of people wanted this but got shut out. Plus if he bought it from the ten club, I'm pretty sure they would not look too kindly onto him flipping it. I don't know about you, but I'm a fan of Pearl Jam, I'm not just collecting their stuff to turn around and sell it on ebay. I bought the record to listen to and enjoy. IMO anyone considering to flip the record should drawn and quartered by 4 horses then their quarters should be drawn and quartered by four smaller horses and thoses quarters should be drawn and quartered by four frogs.

Lots of things get sold for more than they are bought for. Do all of those things bother you too? If I sell my house for more than I bought it for does that bother you? Since that might shut some people out of buying my house. Plus you say people got shut out, but those people are still shut out no matter what this guy does to his copy. If he keeps it, sells it or uses it to play catch with his dog, the people who are shut out are still don't have one. Yes some might say that people making a profit are greedy, but on the flip side of that aren't the people who want something for less than it is worth greedy as well. Yes greed is bad, but so is the entitlement some people have where they feel that since they are big fans of something people owe it to them to sell them things for less than what they are actually worth.

redrock

Manimal wrote:

Almost zero? Lots of people wanted this but got shut out. Plus if he bought it from the ten club, I'm pretty sure they would not look too kindly onto him flipping it. I don't know about you, but I'm a fan of Pearl Jam, I'm not just collecting their stuff to turn around and sell it on ebay. I bought the record to listen to and enjoy. IMO anyone considering to flip the record should drawn and quartered by 4 horses then their quarters should be drawn and quartered by four smaller horses and thoses quarters should be drawn and quartered by four frogs.

Why? People buy things like that, limited editions (of whatever type), rare items, etc. for investment purposes. Why would PJ albums be any different? People invest in art, property, antiques, land, etc., vinyl can be the same.

Manimal

Kel Varnsen wrote:

Lots of things get sold for more than they are bought for. Do all of those things bother you too? If I sell my house for more than I bought it for does that bother you? Since that might shut some people out of buying my house. Yes some might say that people making a profit are greedy, but on the flip side of that aren't the people who want something for less than it is worth greedy as well.

Yes you are right things do increase in value like houses.. And yes people do buy houses to flip. But that is completely different.
Pearl Jam is a band. Artist
They have fans who respect their artistic vision and work. There artistic vision does NOT include people buying their merchandise to make profit. They have made that clear. So why would a fan post on the band's message board asking if he/she should keep their record or sell it to make profit? I know people do this across a variety of mediums. It doesn't make it right. For me i respect Pearl Jam and am a loyal fan, therefore i do not support people making a killing off what the band has made available to us for so cheap.

I also believe that it was a stupid decision for 10c to release this limited edition record. It's only going to create this situation of people flipping them.

And the record is only worth what you are willing to pay for it. So not wanting to pay $150 does't make a person greedy imo.

edmosquito

roll it up and smoke it

Come Back in Black

Manimal wrote:

Yes you are right things do increase in value like houses.. And yes people do buy houses to flip. But that is completely different.
Pearl Jam is a band. Artist
They have fans who respect their artistic vision and work. There artistic vision does NOT include people buying their merchandise to make profit. They have made that clear. So why would a fan post on the band's message board asking if he/she should keep their record or sell it to make profit? I know people do this across a variety of mediums. It doesn't make it right. For me i respect Pearl Jam and am a loyal fan, therefore i do not support people making a killing off what the band has made available to us for so cheap.

I also believe that it was a stupid decision for 10c to release this limited edition record. It's only going to create this situation of people flipping them.

And the record is only worth what you are willing to pay for it. So not wanting to pay $150 does't make a person greedy imo.

all that stuff about the band not wanting people flipping their work is great and all but if they really felt that way they would increase supply of all this crap. Posters ect. As the warehouse goes empty, make some more. They don't do that though..... why would you say that is? If they took all the extra value out of it by printing more than enough than only the true fans would buy this stuff as it would not make a very good investment.

Kel Varnsen

Manimal wrote:

Yes you are right things do increase in value like houses.. And yes people do buy houses to flip. But that is completely different.
Pearl Jam is a band. Artist
They have fans who respect their artistic vision and work. There artistic vision does NOT include people buying their merchandise to make profit. They have made that clear. So why would a fan post on the band's message board asking if he/she should keep their record or sell it to make profit? I know people do this across a variety of mediums. It doesn't make it right. For me i respect Pearl Jam and am a loyal fan, therefore i do not support people making a killing off what the band has made available to us for so cheap.

I also believe that it was a stupid decision for 10c to release this limited edition record. It's only going to create this situation of people flipping them.

And the record is only worth what you are willing to pay for it. So not wanting to pay $150 does't make a person greedy imo.

But as far as houses go, the same argument could be made that the Architect, or the builder had a vision for a house they built, but people still sell them, and when I sell my place I really won't care what the architect thinks. Hell art and antiques get auctioned off all the time and no one seems to feel bad for the people that made them.

I do agree with you though that the people who decided this would be a limited edition basically caused this whole thing. Which is why it bugs me that 10 club takes such a big stand against people flipping, when they are basically creating that type of market.

I don't think you are greedy for not wanting to pay $150 for a record, but I think there are people who act like because they are huge fans someone somehow owes it to them to charge them less than what it is really worth (and to me that is greedy).

Manimal

redrock wrote:

Why? People buy things like that, limited editions (of whatever type), rare items, etc. for investment purposes. Why would PJ albums be any different? People invest in art, property, antiques, land, etc., vinyl can be the same.

See above. The drawn and quartered thing was a joke. Phil Hartman - SNL.
Yeah I know people do that, but do I have to agree or support someone who does that and posts about possibly doing it? For me it's a bit different if you've had the record for a while, don't listen to it anymore and want to get rid of it. Then it makes sense to sell it for the amount it's worth. Unless you are a super nice person like a lot of PJ fans and give someone a good deal. But just the idea of buy the record for the sole purpose of making money, I don't support.

Smarter_Than_U

I can't even believe I am responding to this thread, but for some reason it bothers me.

#1 The act of flaunting something you have in a space where YOU KNOW people want it (some quite desperately) is nothing short of low class.

#2 The fact that you frame your thread under some bullshit premise (“my daddy said I should sell it at Sotheby’s”), I find to be insulting to my intelligence as well as everyone else’s.

The fact of the matter is that you want to flaunt what you have and you somehow think you are special because you got the new Eddie Vedder record. "Oh look everyone talking about my new record, how special it is, how special I am. Mmmmm, come here sparky and lick this peanut butter off my ball sack. Mmmmm."




OK, maybe I crossed the line there, but fuck it. I don't like you.

Manimal

Kel Varnsen wrote:

But as far as houses go, the same argument could be made that the Architect, or the builder had a vision for a house they built, but people still sell them, and when I sell my place I really won't care what the architect thinks. Hell art and antiques get auctioned off all the time and no one seems to feel bad for the people that made them.

I do agree with you though that the people who decided this would be a limited edition basically caused this whole thing. Which is why it bugs me that 10 club takes such a big stand against people flipping, when they are basically creating that type of market.

I don't think you are greedy for not wanting to pay $150 for a record, but I think there are people who act like because they are huge fans someone somehow owes it to them to charge them less than what it is really worth (and to me that is greedy).

Well I don't follow architecture much. But I get the feeling that architects don't really care that people make money off their buildings like Pearl Jam does. I agree that markets do get created and when it comes time to sell something you own, it only makes sense to sell it for what it's worth.

I've never come across someone wanting a deal because they are a huge PJ fan. Yeah i agree I don't think that person would have an advantage over anyone else wanting to buy it.

You should check out the forum at http://www.expressobeans.com - a poster website. People always debate about flipping posters an artist asks his/her fans not too.

Come Back in Black

Manimal wrote:

But I get the feeling that architects don't really care that people make money off their buildings like Pearl Jam does.

See my last response pertaining to Pearl Jam not wanting peeps making money off their wares.

Manimal

Come Back in Black wrote:

all that stuff about the band not wanting people flipping their work is great and all but if they really felt that way they would increase supply of all this crap. Posters ect. As the warehouse goes empty, make some more. They don't do that though..... why would you say that is? If they took all the extra value out of it by printing more than enough than only the true fans would buy this stuff as it would not make a very good investment.

I agree with you on this. Especially with the record. Posters are a little more complicated when it comes to numbers the artist can print (I've thought that before but looked into why people like Klausen and Sheppard don't do runs or 3000 or something, there are lots of people involved with the posters and they are contracted to only make a certain number and other stuff I can't remember now)