Canada's Shameful Side: 388,000 Baby Seals To Be Slaughtered

haffajappa

BhagavadGita wrote:

Smellyman wrote:

you have to be psychotic to want to do that to animals.

cuckooo

Thank you.......a light of compassion shines on in this thread. Appreciate your sanity.

:arrow: Starting to believe that a book by Daniel Quinn called Ishmael should be required reading for all humans.

I'm a huge animal lover but I just got to point out...

since the seal hunt is a part of inuit culture and sustenance, i doubt Ishmael would have objected to this behavour...

BhagavadGita

haffajappa wrote:

BhagavadGita wrote:

Smellyman wrote:

you have to be psychotic to want to do that to animals.

cuckooo

Thank you.......a light of compassion shines on in this thread. Appreciate your sanity.

:arrow: Starting to believe that a book by Daniel Quinn called Ishmael should be required reading for all humans.

I'm a huge animal lover but I just got to point out...

since the seal hunt is a part of inuit culture and sustenance, i doubt Ishmael would have objected to this behavour...

If you watched the video you will see white men killing seals for fur. Not Inuit killing a seal to eat. Inuit respect nature, they don't hook it by the eye and leave it bleeding in the snow to die a slow death.

Culture is the problem?

left the porch

haffajappa wrote:

left the porch wrote:

Being Canadian, I am ashamed at the way this has been allowed to continue for all these years, without at least finding a more humane way to do it if it does in fact 'need' to be done, as people claim. It reminds me of The Cove, where 'tradition's' are getting in the way of compassion and humane treatment of animals. I agree that the senseless slaughtering of any animal in any country is wrong and needs to be corrected.

Some people just love to kill. It's in their blood. These people frighten me, because killing animals with such disregard means that it wouldn't be much of a stretch to kill people the same way.

its not tradition to kill dolphins in japan...

According to them it is.

UpSideDown

Kel Varnsen wrote:

How is it any more shameful then shooting a deer to kill it, or slaughtering a cow, or catching a fish by sticking a sharp hook in its mouth and then bashing it in the head?

Deer hunting is a means for poulation and environmental control and also food sources, not for their fur.

Slaughtering a cow is again primarily a food source. Humane treatment is still controversial here, even with existing laws.

Fish have WAY different thought processes and pain receptors than mammals.......this is well researched.

THAT is how it is different and more shameful.

Kel Varnsen

UpSideDown wrote:

Kel Varnsen wrote:

How is it any more shameful then shooting a deer to kill it, or slaughtering a cow, or catching a fish by sticking a sharp hook in its mouth and then bashing it in the head?

Deer hunting is a means for poulation and environmental control and also food sources, not for their fur.

One of the reasons that seals are hunted is because if they weren't there populations would get out of control, and they would eat all the fish. So in that respect it is the same as deer hunting. Plus I am sure if you are an animal, and you are about to be killed, I am sure its not going to make you feel any better if the guy killing you is doing it for food or if he is doing it to get your fur.

haffajappa

left the porch wrote:

haffajappa wrote:

left the porch wrote:

Being Canadian, I am ashamed at the way this has been allowed to continue for all these years, without at least finding a more humane way to do it if it does in fact 'need' to be done, as people claim. It reminds me of The Cove, where 'tradition's' are getting in the way of compassion and humane treatment of animals. I agree that the senseless slaughtering of any animal in any country is wrong and needs to be corrected.

Some people just love to kill. It's in their blood. These people frighten me, because killing animals with such disregard means that it wouldn't be much of a stretch to kill people the same way.

its not tradition to kill dolphins in japan...

According to them it is.

to who? the group of them in taiji?
is it the tradition of Africans to kill elephants for their tusks or is it greedy groups of people slaughtering them for profit?

you must have missed the part where they interviewed the japanese people...

haffajappa

BhagavadGita wrote:

If you watched the video you will see white men killing seals for fur. Not Inuit killing a seal to eat. Inuit respect nature, they don't hook it by the eye and leave it bleeding in the snow to die a slow death.

Culture is the problem?

well pointed out. i didn't watch the video...
sorry!

unsung

unsung wrote:

CJMST3K wrote:

I agree.

I stopped eating 100% of meat, stopped wearing leather, even eating marshmallow (made with animal skeletons) about 18 years ago.

Humans are seriously fucked up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRwNJxk8 ... re=related

How do you get your protein intake?

I'm still wondering....

rebornFixer

BhagavadGita wrote:

If you watched the video you will see white men killing seals for fur. Not Inuit killing a seal to eat. Inuit respect nature, they don't hook it by the eye and leave it bleeding in the snow to die a slow death.

Culture is the problem?

As I said earlier in the thread, both Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal sealers hunt for similar reasons and use similar methods. In one case its "tradition", and in the other its not.

Nuzpaper.

unsung wrote:

unsung wrote:

CJMST3K wrote:

I agree.

I stopped eating 100% of meat, stopped wearing leather, even eating marshmallow (made with animal skeletons) about 18 years ago.

Humans are seriously fucked up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRwNJxk8 ... re=related

How do you get your protein intake?

I'm still wondering....

beans, lentils, peanut butter, tofu, soymilk....and the list goes on

haffajappa

Nuzpaper. wrote:

unsung wrote:

unsung wrote:

How do you get your protein intake?

I'm still wondering....

beans, lentils, peanut butter, tofu, soymilk....and the list goes on

lol were you really wondering that long? have you not heard of those alternatives?

cajunkiwi

I thought Nickelback was "Canada's shameful side"?

haffajappa

cajunkiwi wrote:

I thought Nickelback was "Canada's shameful side"?

we have many sides.

BhagavadGita

Wrong!

Deer population is increasing because WE ARE SPRAWLING AND BIGGERING AND BIGGERING pushing them out of their natural habitats by humans crowding them out and friggin cutting down trees. Have you noticed that they will have no where to go and you will shoot them?

Why not kill off people off when the population get's to big this planet?

WTF?

BhagavadGita

Kel Varnsen wrote:

UpSideDown wrote:

Kel Varnsen wrote:

How is it any more shameful then shooting a deer to kill it, or slaughtering a cow, or catching a fish by sticking a sharp hook in its mouth and then bashing it in the head?

Deer hunting is a means for poulation and environmental control and also food sources, not for their fur.

One of the reasons that seals are hunted is because if they weren't there populations would get out of control, and they would eat all the fish. So in that respect it is the same as deer hunting. Plus I am sure if you are an animal, and you are about to be killed, I am sure its not going to make you feel any better if the guy killing you is doing it for food or if he is doing it to get your fur.

Wrong wrong wrong. It's human's push them out of their homes by urban sprawl and axe men.

lukin2006

BhagavadGita wrote:

Wrong!

Deer population is increasing because WE ARE SPRAWLING AND BIGGERING AND BIGGERING pushing them out of their natural habitats by humans crowding them out and friggin cutting down trees. Have you noticed that they will have no where to go and you will shoot them?

Why not kill off people off when the population get's to big this planet?

WTF?

Most regions here in Canada allow hunting and have strict rules and quotas about how many deer you can hunt or turkeys or whatever and it is a means of conservation. If you don't control the animal population you won't eat. when deer population gets to large they move into farmers fields, destroy their crops, etc.. Sorry you may not like hunting, but tough, here in Canada it's a way of life for many people. In the States it's even bigger. As for the seal hunt, same thing it's been a way of life for generations. The world needs to get over.

lukin2006

PETA BLOWS!!!!!!!!!!!

Drowned Out

How does deer being pushed out of their homes affect their population? Do they hump more in farmer's fields or what? I always thought their populations explode because of a lack of natural predators (yes, that is most likely the fault of humans).....but isn't the point of a cull to put humans in the role of natural predator?

For the record, I am 110% against trophy hunting, poaching, and any other form of recreational killing...I think the seal hunt, if soley for their pelts, is unecessary....

rebornFixer

Habitat loss typically leads to REDUCED animal populations, not population explosions. A lack of big predators (cougars, wolves) is the main problem where deer are concerned.

tybird

BhagavadGita wrote:

Wrong!

Deer population is increasing because WE ARE SPRAWLING AND BIGGERING AND BIGGERING pushing them out of their natural habitats by humans crowding them out and friggin cutting down trees. Have you noticed that they will have no where to go and you will shoot them?

Why not kill off people off when the population get's to big this planet?

WTF?

Incorrect....the deer population is increasing due to the lack of an alpha predator that preys on them....there is no longer an eastern U.S. wolf or cougar population (outside of the seriously limited in range and number Florida Panther)....the deer population is getting more noticeable due to human encroachment on their habitat.....Science wins again!!!