Why do Conservatives deny Climate Change?

haffajappa

WHO
CARES
IF
CLIMATE
CHANGE
IS
MAN
MADE?!

recycle, don't buy bottled water unless absolutely necessary, compost if you can, resuse as much as possible, take care of your forests, don't eat shark fin soup, buy local... etc etc.
people who REFUSE THAT THE WORLD CAN LIVE BETTER if we just start being more RESPONSIBLE




are idiots.
so stop using "global warming is a fraud" as an excuse to idle your car.



that is all.

haffajappa

polaris_x wrote:

the farmers almanac probably utilizes the same thing meteorologists use to forecast weather ... snow on the east coats could easily have been forecasted based on the presence of el nino this year ... which usually results in a suppression of low-pressure systems further south than normal ...

yes, but NOT used by Olympic organizers to foresee using the mountain closest to the pacific was a bad idea during el nino....

polaris_x

haffajappa wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

the farmers almanac probably utilizes the same thing meteorologists use to forecast weather ... snow on the east coats could easily have been forecasted based on the presence of el nino this year ... which usually results in a suppression of low-pressure systems further south than normal ...

yes, but NOT used by Olympic organizers to foresee using the mountain closest to the pacific was a bad idea during el nino....

they were too busy shutting down greek restaurants in town!

he still stands

haffajappa wrote:

WHO
CARES
IF
CLIMATE
CHANGE
IS
MAN
MADE?!

Capitalists. They have a lot invested in this game and typically (not always) there have to be operational choices made in regards to $$$ vs. Environment. Also, if all consumers start thinking about coexisting and consuming only what they need, the economy will fail. Not only is that bad for jobs, it means that nice sum put away in the 401k won't be worth dick, so Mr. Capitalist won't be able to retire in Arizona and play golf until he wastes away his meaningless existence.

Godfather.

shadowcast wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

yes it's natural in my opinion and not man made, it is as it's been for million's of years..ever changing.
I don't think your missing anything, I believe what I do and you believe as you do, there is no proof that I have heard that man has changed the climate but as you say there is and no matter who is wrong or right it is what it is and arguing will not change the climate to what we want or need.

Godfather.

there is plenty of proof ... you just have to believe it instead of reading the links the PR machine puts for such as the thing shadowcast put out ...

the jury is NOT out ont his matter ... it's widely accepted as fact amongst much of the world now ... the only holdouts are people who still listen to right wing propaganda machines ...

Hey I am just putting out the other side’s point of view. These are not some crazy "Tea Baggers" putting this information out there. There are very smart individuals on both sides but there is not enough data on Earth because it formed 4.5 billon years ago. This solar system is going to do what it God Damn pleases in my book. I am still in the decision process and still do my share to help out the planet if that is the case. But I have to admit I am leaning to calling a "Bullshit" on man made Global Warming.

I hear you, there is so much info out there supporting both side's that you need to look past what you read and make up your own mind.

Godfather.

haffajappa

polaris_x wrote:

haffajappa wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

the farmers almanac probably utilizes the same thing meteorologists use to forecast weather ... snow on the east coats could easily have been forecasted based on the presence of el nino this year ... which usually results in a suppression of low-pressure systems further south than normal ...

yes, but NOT used by Olympic organizers to foresee using the mountain closest to the pacific was a bad idea during el nino....

they were too busy shutting down greek restaurants in town!

HA yah that was ridiclous!
like the bison burger thing and mcdonalds!

mikepegg44

it is hard to be for business and for the environment at the same time. I don't think a lot of conservatives deny climate change, just the actual effect man has on it.
I don't understand it all fully so i cannot comment one way or the other, but logically you would think we have some sort of effect on speeding up the process, but logic isn't always the best barometer.

Jeanwah

mikepegg44 wrote:

it is hard to be for business and for the environment at the same time. I don't think a lot of conservatives deny climate change, just the actual effect man has on it.
I don't understand it all fully so i cannot comment one way or the other, but logically you would think we have some sort of effect on speeding up the process, but logic isn't always the best barometer.

An economy based on the consumption of fixed resources will consume itself.

It is in human's best interest to take our natural resources and their limited supply when considering world economy. We keep consuming fossil fuels, we will eventually run out, we consume ourselves. Thank those in power.

Johnnyguitarwatson

haffajappa wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

Johnnyguitarwatson wrote:

prove it. prove that man is causing global warming ...oh i mean climate change ...since thats what you are calling it now. in 10 years you'll be saying global cooling....it's all BS and just another way to fuck the middle class.

it's called climate change now because people assumed global warming meant that the weather was ONLY going to get hotter ... the reality is that the earth IS warming but the consequences aren't that the temperatures are going to rise everywhere ... the consequences are that we are playing with the world's climate - artifiically adjusting it resulting in more extreme variances in weather which may in turn cause some areas to go into a deep freeze or suffer drought or as we are seeing everywhere mass flooding ...

there is plenty of proof out there ... it's not hard to find ... but you'll never find it googling "global warming is a fraud" ...

i could explain it to ya - but you need to be open to understanding it ...

and godfather - the thing with the environment is that it is all around us ... the air we breathe, the water we drink, the food we eat, etc ... take second hand smoke for instance ... it's the leading cause of lung cancer amongst patients who don't smoke ... that is an environmental issue ... breathing toxins causes cancer ... now, look at all the areas we introduce toxins into our environment from pesticides to waste run off to our detergents ... people don't really think when they develop respiratory illnesses or cancer or anything that it's an environmental problem but i assure you ... it is ...

haha so true

"yeah come on guys, global WARMING doesn't exist... they've had snow in the UK and other places not known to usually have it, and millions of livestock have died in the worst winter in years to hit Mongolia.. and..."

people are dense.

People really are dense. funny seeing Global warming and coldest winter in years in the same sentence. Here in philly we just got over the most snow fall on record .... damn the global warming is brutal !