Why do Conservatives deny Climate Change?

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,424
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Looks like nothing's changed with this old subject!

    Conservatives like money as well as they fear change. They cling to the fossil fuel industry for money as well as the need to insist that renewables are unnecessary since that would mean major change. Science is something they seem to really not be too interested in, unless they can pay a scientist to write what's in the politician's interest.
    i agree with your post. good to see you back posting.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Looks like nothing's changed with this old subject!

    Conservatives like money as well as they fear change. They cling to the fossil fuel industry for money as well as the need to insist that renewables are unnecessary since that would mean major change. Science is something they seem to really not be too interested in, unless they can pay a scientist to write what's in the politician's interest.
    i agree with your post. good to see you back posting.

    yes ... we hope your recovery is going well!
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    Fossil Fuel has nothing to do with it.
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Looks like nothing's changed with this old subject!

    Conservatives like money as well as they fear change. They cling to the fossil fuel industry for money as well as the need to insist that renewables are unnecessary since that would mean major change. Science is something they seem to really not be too interested in, unless they can pay a scientist to write what's in the politician's interest.
    Don’t you see that both parties are paying scientist? The Tax will be Cap and Trade.
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    [/qui thik they chose the side they did because they want to oppose everything that has ever been proposed by democrats. al gore, who was championing the climate change cause is a democrat, therefore the gop must do whatever it can to discredit it.


    Ya, there's that....OR, it could have something to do with the fact that scientists have changed or erased data that proves their theories wrong in the last 10 to 15 years. :roll:

    Who are the ones being played??
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    polaris_x wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    jesus dude you couldn't be further from the truth. Conservatives deny the claim that it's Man causing it. I don't deny that there is climate change. I just don't believe that it's man made. and there has been plenty of evidence to support it just from info that has surfaced in the last 6 months.

    And we don't hate taxation. Just over taxation. And if you can't see the fact or understand the fact the people that having been crying the loudest are the ones who will be profiting the most when or if Cap and trade passes. That's called conecting the dots

    :wtf: Did the war in Iraq have to do with any of this ?

    There is no conclusive evidence that Global Warming :oops: I mean climate Change ( next year it will be called something else ) is anything other than natural temputure vaiations which existed before mankind.

    For example Carbon dioxide,The primary green house gas produced is not a toxic polutant. CO2 is vital for life on earth.

    dude ... we already know you don't really know what you're talking about when it comes to the science ... you can post all your unsubstantiated links like you've done in the past ... and guess what - someone will refute it and you will disappear like you did at least 3 times in your "Busted" thread ... you have no response to the rebuttals on your links simply because you don't understand the science ... all you do is regurgitate talking points based on a PR campaigns strategy verbatim with very little understanding whatsoever ...

    i mean ... dude ... look at your last point!! ... try breathing CO2 in concentrations above 1% ... ever hear of carbon monoxide poisoning? ... like really - please ... do yourself a HUGE favour and read "trust us, we're experts" ... you have been played ...

    Please dude I have posted pleanty of examples that shows it's a big Fucking SCAM, and the links I posted a 4th grader could understand them. Your just to stubborn so you probably din't even read any of the links,but so what.
    I can sit on my ass all damn day and post like some peoople can. I actually have a life and a job unlike some people. and I said CARBON DIOXIDE (Co2) not MONOXIDE (CO) I guess your not as smart as you think you are. :lol: maybe you need to go back to the PTE and refresh your brain. :lol:
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    polaris_x wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Looks like nothing's changed with this old subject!

    Conservatives like money as well as they fear change. They cling to the fossil fuel industry for money as well as the need to insist that renewables are unnecessary since that would mean major change. Science is something they seem to really not be too interested in, unless they can pay a scientist to write what's in the politician's interest.
    i agree with your post. good to see you back posting.

    yes ... we hope your recovery is going well!

    :) Thanks! Recovery is coming along slowly but surely. The physical therapy and pain kicks my ass! in a good way.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Please dude I have posted pleanty of examples that shows it's a big Fucking SCAM, and the links I posted a 4th grader could understand them. Your just to stubborn so you probably din't even read any of the links,but so what.
    I can sit on my ass all damn day and post like some peoople can. I actually have a life and a job unlike some people. and I said CARBON DIOXIDE (Co2) not MONOXIDE (CO) I guess your not as smart as you think you are. :lol: maybe you need to go back to the PTE and refresh your brain. :lol:

    this is another example ... CO2 IS TOXIC at concentrations above 1% ... look it up ... like seriously - don't you feel embarassed for yourself posting this stuff?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide
    CO2 is toxic in higher concentrations: 1% (10,000 ppm) will make some people feel drowsy.[2] Concentrations of 7% to 10% cause dizziness, headache, visual and hearing dysfunction, and unconsciousness within a few minutes to an hour.

    every single one of your links have been refuted ... just go and peruse your "Busted" thread ... again - go read "trust us, we're experts" ... i suspect you will disappear from this thread as well ...
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Looks like nothing's changed with this old subject!

    Conservatives like money as well as they fear change. They cling to the fossil fuel industry for money as well as the need to insist that renewables are unnecessary since that would mean major change. Science is something they seem to really not be too interested in, unless they can pay a scientist to write what's in the politician's interest.


    I don't fear change.....I fear democratic higher taxes larger government change.
  • brandon10
    brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    mb262200 wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Looks like nothing's changed with this old subject!

    Conservatives like money as well as they fear change. They cling to the fossil fuel industry for money as well as the need to insist that renewables are unnecessary since that would mean major change. Science is something they seem to really not be too interested in, unless they can pay a scientist to write what's in the politician's interest.


    I don't fear change.....I fear democratic higher taxes larger government change.


    What would higher taxes and larger government be a change from? Certainly not a change from anything over the last twenty years.

    The only change will be where that revenue is spent. And hopefully how well that large government operates.
  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    polaris_x wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Please dude I have posted pleanty of examples that shows it's a big Fucking SCAM, and the links I posted a 4th grader could understand them. Your just to stubborn so you probably din't even read any of the links,but so what.
    I can sit on my ass all damn day and post like some peoople can. I actually have a life and a job unlike some people. and I said CARBON DIOXIDE (Co2) not MONOXIDE (CO) I guess your not as smart as you think you are. :lol: maybe you need to go back to the PTE and refresh your brain. :lol:

    this is another example ... CO2 IS TOXIC at concentrations above 1% ... look it up ... like seriously - don't you feel embarassed for yourself posting this stuff?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide
    CO2 is toxic in higher concentrations: 1% (10,000 ppm) will make some people feel drowsy.[2] Concentrations of 7% to 10% cause dizziness, headache, visual and hearing dysfunction, and unconsciousness within a few minutes to an hour.

    every single one of your links have been refuted ... just go and peruse your "Busted" thread ... again - go read "trust us, we're experts" ... i suspect you will disappear from this thread as well ...


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  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    polaris_x wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Please dude I have posted pleanty of examples that shows it's a big Fucking SCAM, and the links I posted a 4th grader could understand them. Your just to stubborn so you probably din't even read any of the links,but so what.
    I can sit on my ass all damn day and post like some peoople can. I actually have a life and a job unlike some people. and I said CARBON DIOXIDE (Co2) not MONOXIDE (CO) I guess your not as smart as you think you are. :lol: maybe you need to go back to the PTE and refresh your brain. :lol:

    this is another example ... CO2 IS TOXIC at concentrations above 1% ... look it up ... like seriously - don't you feel embarassed for yourself posting this stuff?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide
    CO2 is toxic in higher concentrations: 1% (10,000 ppm) will make some people feel drowsy.[2] Concentrations of 7% to 10% cause dizziness, headache, visual and hearing dysfunction, and unconsciousness within a few minutes to an hour.

    every single one of your links have been refuted ... just go and peruse your "Busted" thread ... again - go read "trust us, we're experts" ... i suspect you will disappear from this thread as well ...
    :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn:


    Oh so just because I don't respond right away I dissapear ? :roll: :roll: What ever Dork.. I told you... I have a life, I can't sit on my ass and post all day long.

    So what are the chances of anyone being exposed to high concentrations ??? Slim to none I would bet.

    Look Dude. Im sure your a nice person and all but your not going to change my mind. I don't believe in man made climate change and I have posted pleanty of evidence that supports that it's a big scam,and If you don't want to believe it than don't. I could care less..
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    prfctlefts wrote:
    :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn:

    Oh so just because I don't respond right away I dissapear ? :roll: :roll: What ever Dork.. I told you... I have a life, I can't sit on my ass and post all day long.

    So what are the chances of anyone being exposed to high concentrations ??? Slim to none I would bet.

    Look Dude. Im sure your a nice person and all but your not going to change my mind. I don't believe in man made climate change and I have posted pleanty of evidence that supports that it's a big scam,and If you don't want to believe it than don't. I could care less..

    uhhh ... you were the one who said CO2 wasn't toxic ... i was just refuting your knowledge which is the whole idea here ... if you don't understand that CO2 is indeed toxic then what does that say for your ability to understand climate change ...

    the FACT is - you have not sent ANY evidence ... we've read your links and they have all been refuted ... you keep saying follow the money ... you should take your own advice ...

    then stop posting your links that ultimately you never back up ... and again - do yourself a favour and read the book i suggested ... if you want everyone to read your links - the least you could do is read a short book ...
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    If CO2 was that toxic, shoudn't we cut down all the trees.

    (I guess anything is toxic in high enough quantities, though).

    I, like others, do not believe that climate change (or whatever the current popular name is) is as directly attributable to the actions of humans as some woud try to make us believe.

    I don't think it has anything to do with being conservative, though.

    I also get confused when some say that the answer to it is to increase taxes. If that's the answer, then can we lower taxes in some other area because the last thing governments need is more money and power?
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,424
    know1 wrote:
    If CO2 was that toxic, shoudn't we cut down all the trees.

    (I guess anything is toxic in high enough quantities, though).

    I, like others, do not believe that climate change (or whatever the current popular name is) is as directly attributable to the actions of humans as some woud try to make us believe.

    I don't think it has anything to do with being conservative, though.

    I also get confused when some say that the answer to it is to increase taxes. If that's the answer, then can we lower taxes in some other area because the last thing governments need is more money and power?
    why would we cut down trees when they use carbon dioxide and release oxygen into the air?? its called photosynthesis...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    If CO2 was that toxic, shoudn't we cut down all the trees.

    (I guess anything is toxic in high enough quantities, though).

    I, like others, do not believe that climate change (or whatever the current popular name is) is as directly attributable to the actions of humans as some woud try to make us believe.

    I don't think it has anything to do with being conservative, though.

    I also get confused when some say that the answer to it is to increase taxes. If that's the answer, then can we lower taxes in some other area because the last thing governments need is more money and power?
    why would we cut down trees when they use carbon dioxide and release oxygen into the air?? its called photosynthesis...

    Good point. I'm an idiot.

    I do think that the poster who initially brought up CO2 was really talking about CO and that's what the other poster was trying to point out.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,424
    know1 wrote:
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    Good point. I'm an idiot.

    I do think that the poster who initially brought up CO2 was really talking about CO and that's what the other poster was trying to point out.
    no worries, it's cool man. we all make mistakes at times..i was confused by what was going on about CO and CO2 in the thread for a bit as well, but i think i have it figured out now.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    know1 wrote:
    I, like others, do not believe that climate change (or whatever the current popular name is) is as directly attributable to the actions of humans as some woud try to make us believe.

    unfortunately i doubt you have any scientific backing to support your belief ... the debate on whether it is caused by man was held a decade ago ... we are long past that now ...
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Quick!! Everybody stop breathing!! You're contributing to Global Warming and we're all going to die!!
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    mb262200 wrote:
    Quick!! Everybody stop breathing!! You're contributing to Global Warming and we're all going to die!!


    :lol::lol::lol:
    I don't care who ya are that was funny !!!

    side note; why are people divided with names like Conservative left right republican Democrat ?

    I have always just kinda voted for the best liar or believed what I thought was right and never
    considered myself anything but a proud American.

    Godfather.
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    mb262200 wrote:
    Quick!! Everybody stop breathing!! You're contributing to Global Warming and we're all going to die!!
    Stop farting too.....methane is also a greenhouse gas....BTW, we all die in the end. :twisted:
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.

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