Time change. Again.

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  • oceaninmyeyesoceaninmyeyes Posts: 4,646
    My dog was unimpressed. Had to be dragged out of bed this morning after an hour of people being up and around. The cat on the other hand was all over early breakfast. I just wish the powers that be would pick one time and stick to it. The constant flipping back and forth blows.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,907
    Yeah another nuance that doesn’t affect my life in any way , people will complain about anything..
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845
    Yeah another nuance that doesn’t affect my life in any way , people will complain about anything..

    Well, there's lots to complain about. The time changes are related to higher rates of car crashes, higher rates of heart attacks, and more workplace injuries. 

    Some studies suggest a small reductions in energy use, while others show a small increase; this is likely related strongly to local economies so probably can't be standardized. 

    No evidence of overall benefits, and there is evidence of harms. It's time to get rid of the change.
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,455
    It's weird how people travel to different time zones ALL the time but no one bitches about that time change.  The time change is fine, people just fear change and make it out to be some big, bad voodoo that simply does not exist.  Anxiety over the change is probably the cause of all those things, not the time change itself.  Correlation != causality.
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845
    It's weird how people travel to different time zones ALL the time but no one bitches about that time change.  The time change is fine, people just fear change and make it out to be some big, bad voodoo that simply does not exist.  Anxiety over the change is probably the cause of all those things, not the time change itself.  Correlation != causality.
    People don't bitch about jet lag? That's news.
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,455
    It's weird how people travel to different time zones ALL the time but no one bitches about that time change.  The time change is fine, people just fear change and make it out to be some big, bad voodoo that simply does not exist.  Anxiety over the change is probably the cause of all those things, not the time change itself.  Correlation != causality.
    People don't bitch about jet lag? That's news.
    There's not a 16 page thread about it.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Yeah another nuance that doesn’t affect my life in any way , people will complain about anything..

    Well, there's lots to complain about. The time changes are related to higher rates of car crashes, higher rates of heart attacks, and more workplace injuries. 

    Some studies suggest a small reductions in energy use, while others show a small increase; this is likely related strongly to local economies so probably can't be standardized. 

    No evidence of overall benefits, and there is evidence of harms. It's time to get rid of the change.
    Essential thinning of the herd!
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845
    It's weird how people travel to different time zones ALL the time but no one bitches about that time change.  The time change is fine, people just fear change and make it out to be some big, bad voodoo that simply does not exist.  Anxiety over the change is probably the cause of all those things, not the time change itself.  Correlation != causality.
    People don't bitch about jet lag? That's news.
    There's not a 16 page thread about it.
    I guess we don't all fly internationally on the same day.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Jewelry store gets set to move 400 watches to daylight savings time
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    rgambs said:
    rgambs said:
    Doesn't effect my sleep at all, doesn't effect my toddler either.  Supposedly it effects children very much, I don't buy it.  I think 90% of the complaints are just people whining because that's what people do.
    Yep. Unless you go to bed super late or need an alarm to wake up on Sunday, you don’t lose any sleep at all. You sleep the same amount of time, it’s just a different time when you wake up. I never understood the whole losing/gaining sleep argument.
    Just another excuse for weak whiners to whine about their weaknesses.
    No, it's just a stupid archaic practice that has zero bearing on the present population.

    I personally am not a fan of it being dark at 430 PM.  I am a fan of it being dark at 630 AM though.
    Soooooo, it's a stupid archaic practice... of which you enjoy the results?
    No...  I should have been clearer.  I am a fan of it being dark at 630 am instead of dark at 430 pm.  Stop the spring/fall thing and we can have more evening daylight.  That would be just fine w me.
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,455
    rgambs said:
    rgambs said:
    Doesn't effect my sleep at all, doesn't effect my toddler either.  Supposedly it effects children very much, I don't buy it.  I think 90% of the complaints are just people whining because that's what people do.
    Yep. Unless you go to bed super late or need an alarm to wake up on Sunday, you don’t lose any sleep at all. You sleep the same amount of time, it’s just a different time when you wake up. I never understood the whole losing/gaining sleep argument.
    Just another excuse for weak whiners to whine about their weaknesses.
    No, it's just a stupid archaic practice that has zero bearing on the present population.

    I personally am not a fan of it being dark at 430 PM.  I am a fan of it being dark at 630 AM though.
    Soooooo, it's a stupid archaic practice... of which you enjoy the results?
    No...  I should have been clearer.  I am a fan of it being dark at 630 am instead of dark at 430 pm.  Stop the spring/fall thing and we can have more evening daylight.  That would be just fine w me.
    Right, that's exactly what DST does and what I was alluding to.  We agree, I'm all for more evening light.  I was just confused on your wording.  I'm definitely in favor of not "falling back" and just keeping this as permanent.
  • mpedonempedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    It's weird how people travel to different time zones ALL the time but no one bitches about that time change.
    I do! If you want, I can start a 16 page thread about it.

    As for DST, just end it. Do it now, do it in the fall, I don't care. Just pick one and stick with it.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,987

    rgambs said:
    rgambs said:
    Doesn't effect my sleep at all, doesn't effect my toddler either.  Supposedly it effects children very much, I don't buy it.  I think 90% of the complaints are just people whining because that's what people do.
    Yep. Unless you go to bed super late or need an alarm to wake up on Sunday, you don’t lose any sleep at all. You sleep the same amount of time, it’s just a different time when you wake up. I never understood the whole losing/gaining sleep argument.
    Just another excuse for weak whiners to whine about their weaknesses.
    No, it's just a stupid archaic practice that has zero bearing on the present population.

    I personally am not a fan of it being dark at 430 PM.  I am a fan of it being dark at 630 AM though.
    Soooooo, it's a stupid archaic practice... of which you enjoy the results?
    No...  I should have been clearer.  I am a fan of it being dark at 630 am instead of dark at 430 pm.  Stop the spring/fall thing and we can have more evening daylight.  That would be just fine w me.
    Right, that's exactly what DST does and what I was alluding to.  We agree, I'm all for more evening light.  I was just confused on your wording.  I'm definitely in favor of not "falling back" and just keeping this as permanent.
    I'm in favour of falling back and never springing forward again.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    rgambs said:
    rgambs said:
    Doesn't effect my sleep at all, doesn't effect my toddler either.  Supposedly it effects children very much, I don't buy it.  I think 90% of the complaints are just people whining because that's what people do.
    Yep. Unless you go to bed super late or need an alarm to wake up on Sunday, you don’t lose any sleep at all. You sleep the same amount of time, it’s just a different time when you wake up. I never understood the whole losing/gaining sleep argument.
    Just another excuse for weak whiners to whine about their weaknesses.
    No, it's just a stupid archaic practice that has zero bearing on the present population.

    I personally am not a fan of it being dark at 430 PM.  I am a fan of it being dark at 630 AM though.
    Soooooo, it's a stupid archaic practice... of which you enjoy the results?
    No...  I should have been clearer.  I am a fan of it being dark at 630 am instead of dark at 430 pm.  Stop the spring/fall thing and we can have more evening daylight.  That would be just fine w me.
    Right, that's exactly what DST does and what I was alluding to.  We agree, I'm all for more evening light.  I was just confused on your wording.  I'm definitely in favor of not "falling back" and just keeping this as permanent.
    I'm in favor of the same, never "falling back" again. Let's stay sprung!
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,455
    PJ_Soul said:

    rgambs said:
    rgambs said:
    Doesn't effect my sleep at all, doesn't effect my toddler either.  Supposedly it effects children very much, I don't buy it.  I think 90% of the complaints are just people whining because that's what people do.
    Yep. Unless you go to bed super late or need an alarm to wake up on Sunday, you don’t lose any sleep at all. You sleep the same amount of time, it’s just a different time when you wake up. I never understood the whole losing/gaining sleep argument.
    Just another excuse for weak whiners to whine about their weaknesses.
    No, it's just a stupid archaic practice that has zero bearing on the present population.

    I personally am not a fan of it being dark at 430 PM.  I am a fan of it being dark at 630 AM though.
    Soooooo, it's a stupid archaic practice... of which you enjoy the results?
    No...  I should have been clearer.  I am a fan of it being dark at 630 am instead of dark at 430 pm.  Stop the spring/fall thing and we can have more evening daylight.  That would be just fine w me.
    Right, that's exactly what DST does and what I was alluding to.  We agree, I'm all for more evening light.  I was just confused on your wording.  I'm definitely in favor of not "falling back" and just keeping this as permanent.
    I'm in favour of falling back and never springing forward again.
    You like 430am sunrises in the summer?  Fuck all that noise!!!
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,987
    PJ_Soul said:

    rgambs said:
    rgambs said:
    Doesn't effect my sleep at all, doesn't effect my toddler either.  Supposedly it effects children very much, I don't buy it.  I think 90% of the complaints are just people whining because that's what people do.
    Yep. Unless you go to bed super late or need an alarm to wake up on Sunday, you don’t lose any sleep at all. You sleep the same amount of time, it’s just a different time when you wake up. I never understood the whole losing/gaining sleep argument.
    Just another excuse for weak whiners to whine about their weaknesses.
    No, it's just a stupid archaic practice that has zero bearing on the present population.

    I personally am not a fan of it being dark at 430 PM.  I am a fan of it being dark at 630 AM though.
    Soooooo, it's a stupid archaic practice... of which you enjoy the results?
    No...  I should have been clearer.  I am a fan of it being dark at 630 am instead of dark at 430 pm.  Stop the spring/fall thing and we can have more evening daylight.  That would be just fine w me.
    Right, that's exactly what DST does and what I was alluding to.  We agree, I'm all for more evening light.  I was just confused on your wording.  I'm definitely in favor of not "falling back" and just keeping this as permanent.
    I'm in favour of falling back and never springing forward again.
    You like 430am sunrises in the summer?  Fuck all that noise!!!
    Yeah, what do I care? I sleep with my blinds closed. ;)
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,455
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:

    rgambs said:
    rgambs said:
    Doesn't effect my sleep at all, doesn't effect my toddler either.  Supposedly it effects children very much, I don't buy it.  I think 90% of the complaints are just people whining because that's what people do.
    Yep. Unless you go to bed super late or need an alarm to wake up on Sunday, you don’t lose any sleep at all. You sleep the same amount of time, it’s just a different time when you wake up. I never understood the whole losing/gaining sleep argument.
    Just another excuse for weak whiners to whine about their weaknesses.
    No, it's just a stupid archaic practice that has zero bearing on the present population.

    I personally am not a fan of it being dark at 430 PM.  I am a fan of it being dark at 630 AM though.
    Soooooo, it's a stupid archaic practice... of which you enjoy the results?
    No...  I should have been clearer.  I am a fan of it being dark at 630 am instead of dark at 430 pm.  Stop the spring/fall thing and we can have more evening daylight.  That would be just fine w me.
    Right, that's exactly what DST does and what I was alluding to.  We agree, I'm all for more evening light.  I was just confused on your wording.  I'm definitely in favor of not "falling back" and just keeping this as permanent.
    I'm in favour of falling back and never springing forward again.
    You like 430am sunrises in the summer?  Fuck all that noise!!!
    Yeah, what do I care? I sleep with my blinds closed. ;)
    I'd need a room without windows.  At the very least some quality room darkening blinds.  And a shotgun to shoot all the damn birds waking me up at 4 in the morning!
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,987
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:

    rgambs said:
    rgambs said:
    Doesn't effect my sleep at all, doesn't effect my toddler either.  Supposedly it effects children very much, I don't buy it.  I think 90% of the complaints are just people whining because that's what people do.
    Yep. Unless you go to bed super late or need an alarm to wake up on Sunday, you don’t lose any sleep at all. You sleep the same amount of time, it’s just a different time when you wake up. I never understood the whole losing/gaining sleep argument.
    Just another excuse for weak whiners to whine about their weaknesses.
    No, it's just a stupid archaic practice that has zero bearing on the present population.

    I personally am not a fan of it being dark at 430 PM.  I am a fan of it being dark at 630 AM though.
    Soooooo, it's a stupid archaic practice... of which you enjoy the results?
    No...  I should have been clearer.  I am a fan of it being dark at 630 am instead of dark at 430 pm.  Stop the spring/fall thing and we can have more evening daylight.  That would be just fine w me.
    Right, that's exactly what DST does and what I was alluding to.  We agree, I'm all for more evening light.  I was just confused on your wording.  I'm definitely in favor of not "falling back" and just keeping this as permanent.
    I'm in favour of falling back and never springing forward again.
    You like 430am sunrises in the summer?  Fuck all that noise!!!
    Yeah, what do I care? I sleep with my blinds closed. ;)
    I'd need a room without windows.  At the very least some quality room darkening blinds.  And a shotgun to shoot all the damn birds waking me up at 4 in the morning!
    The fucking birds wake me up starting at 4:30am in the summer anyhow. I also wish I could kill them all!!
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 42,147
    BOO! not a huge fan of losing daylight,
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Just about the dumbest thing people do.  Only the government would continue with this kind of stupidity...the people in most polls want the clocks to stay the same.  But hey, why would the government want to listen to the people.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    Why am I the only one at work right now? It's like everyone else is an hour late or something?
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,987
    I love the treat of getting back that hour in the Fall! I don't even care that it because it was stolen from me in the spring, lol. And I don't GAF about daylight, really, so that doesn't play into it for me. I like nighttime just as much as I like daytime... Maybe even more.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    PJ_Soul said:
    I love the treat of getting back that hour in the Fall! I don't even care that it because it was stolen from me in the spring, lol. And I don't GAF about daylight, really, so that doesn't play into it for me. I like nighttime just as much as I like daytime... Maybe even more.
    Umm....we lost an hour of sleep this weekend. You gain in the Spring .
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,987
    edited November 2019
    PJ_Soul said:
    I love the treat of getting back that hour in the Fall! I don't even care that it because it was stolen from me in the spring, lol. And I don't GAF about daylight, really, so that doesn't play into it for me. I like nighttime just as much as I like daytime... Maybe even more.
    Umm....we lost an hour of sleep this weekend. You gain in the Spring .
    Errr, no, you've got it confused ... We fell back. So when it was bedtime on Saturday night, it said it was, say, midnight. But I set it back to 11:00pm. So if i had to wake up at 7am, then I got 8 hours sleep, instead of 7, which is what I would have had if the clocks hadn't been turned back. Opposite in the spring. Falling back is good.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I love the treat of getting back that hour in the Fall! I don't even care that it because it was stolen from me in the spring, lol. And I don't GAF about daylight, really, so that doesn't play into it for me. I like nighttime just as much as I like daytime... Maybe even more.
    Umm....we lost an hour of sleep this weekend. You gain in the Spring .
    Errr, no, you've got it confused ... We fell back. So when it was bedtime on Saturday night, it said it was, say, midnight. But I set it back to 11:00pm. So if i had to wake up at 7am, then I got 8 hours sleep, instead of 7, which is what I would have had if the clocks hadn't been turned back. Opposite in the spring. Falling back is good.
    What? 
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,481
    What doesn’t make sense to me is we are only on standard time about 4 months, and DST about 8. Why is the standard to less used one? We should be on DST year round at that point.
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,053
    mace1229 said:
    What doesn’t make sense to me is we are only on standard time about 4 months, and DST about 8. Why is the standard to less used one? We should be on DST year round at that point.
    Used to be a pretty even split years ago (would spring forward in April and fall back in October), for whatever reason the dates got switched, don't know why.
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 42,147
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I love the treat of getting back that hour in the Fall! I don't even care that it because it was stolen from me in the spring, lol. And I don't GAF about daylight, really, so that doesn't play into it for me. I like nighttime just as much as I like daytime... Maybe even more.
    Umm....we lost an hour of sleep this weekend. You gain in the Spring .
    Errr, no, you've got it confused ... We fell back. So when it was bedtime on Saturday night, it said it was, say, midnight. But I set it back to 11:00pm. So if i had to wake up at 7am, then I got 8 hours sleep, instead of 7, which is what I would have had if the clocks hadn't been turned back. Opposite in the spring. Falling back is good.
    What? 
    :lol:

    @PJ_Soul he's just messing with ya.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,289
    edited November 2019
    Stupid time change.  Can't we just meet half way there and leave it be for good?  To me, changing the clock twice a year not only makes no sense, it's
    Dumb... dumb.  
    Dumb dumb dumb.

    (Thank you, Juliana.)
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    I’ve been like a couple hours early to work every day this week. Not sure what’s going on. 
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