Vic or Bonnaroo...which setlist is better???

hrd2imgn

Bonaroo

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The Vic
Hard To Imagine

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All Or none
Corduroy

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Education
All Night

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Sad
Why Go

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In Hiding
Elderly Woman

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Parachutes
Down

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I'm Open
Who You Are

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Wishlist
Severed Hand

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Down
1/2 Full

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undone
Animal

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off he goes
Even Flow

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H2i
Daughter

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God's Dice
Gone

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WWS
Love Reign O'er Me

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Rats
Do The Evolution

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Gone
Rearviewmirror

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Why Go
W.M.A

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no More
Better Man(Save)

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Inside Job
Black

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Low Light
Crazy Mary

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Love Reign
Porch

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Comatose
No More

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Black Diamond
Release

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Sonic Reducer
Alive

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Indieffernece (WITH BEN)
Watchtower

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plus Ed preset

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Trouble, Dead Man Walking,

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I Used to Work In Chicago,

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All The Way, Picture In A Frame


looking at all that The VIC is clearly the winner by song rarity, however Bonaroo may go down as the most surprising show ever

Both had some awesome common songs, both pulled out some great covers, both pulled out some rarely played things (5 or under), both were amazing from any way you look at it. Should the Venue determine this if all else is even? If so you have to go with the VIC

I was there(VIC), not at roo, and I'll damn well say roo is dead even and I wish the fuck I was there

RedMosquito02

PJAMEDVED wrote:

You gotta remember, alot of people will say Bonnaroo because they got shutout for Vic tickets. I was at the Vic and was not at Bonnaroo. With that said I would have givin' my left and my right nut for Vic tickets and to compare The Vic to Bonnaroo is one of the most asinine things I've ever seen on the board. However the thread isn't saying which show would you rather of attended. It's a setlist question. Bonnaroo's setlist is better, that's an easy question. But setlist or not nobody here can say they would rather have been at ROO over The Vic
Kat or Sea, locker up now.

Well said my friend...

I think too many of you are trying to compare the two shows; not the setlists.

Someone mentioned that you can't compare the shows...they are right.

But, if you look at the setlists and you're with it as far a PJ sets go, then this isn't even a fair fight:
'Roo setlist is better, face it Vic'ers; you may have been at a more intimate, special show, but c'mon now.

Abuskedti

Drop The Leash 10 wrote:

if you put release in the middle of a set, play WMA in its entirety open with hard to imagine and blow out half full, it wins

not to mention who are you.. and closing with Watchtower.. and they were kicking ass.. and they were the only act there that didn't utter the word Bonnaroo!!!

damn, I need a shower!

||Release_Me||

It depends on what you look for in a setlist. I'd take Bonaroo any day of the week, because it had a smattering of rarities mixed in with the staples, so the setlist is more well-rounded.

Having a few rarities at a show is great, but having pretty much an entire show of them would feel rather uneven to me. I don't get a boner about the Vic like some people here do.

I like my rarities mixed in with DTE, Corduroy, Animal etc.

drsluggo

Hands down Vic... I was looking at the two last night while staring at my monitor comparing setlists (and seeing how many times WMA was tagged onto Daught )

anyway.. # of songs I'd love to hear at Vic was SO much higher than Roo. Plus the Eddie preset, plus the intimate venue... it just doesnt compare.

that said - I was FLOORED at the Bonnaroo setlist. Having been at Lolla, I wanted to cry that Lolla couldnt have had sometihng more than Education played to make it a special set... Lolla was for the casual fans where Roo had more than something for everyone.

Danimal

hrd2imgn wrote:

Bonaroo

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The Vic
Hard To Imagine

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All Or none
Corduroy

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Education
All Night

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Sad
Why Go

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In Hiding
Elderly Woman

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Parachutes
Down

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I'm Open
Who You Are

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Wishlist
Severed Hand

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Down
1/2 Full

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undone
Animal

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off he goes
Even Flow

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H2i
Daughter

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God's Dice
Gone

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WWS
Love Reign O'er Me

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Rats
Do The Evolution

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Gone
Rearviewmirror

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Why Go
W.M.A

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no More
Better Man(Save)

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Inside Job
Black

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Low Light
Crazy Mary

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Love Reign
Porch

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Comatose
No More

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Black Diamond
Release

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Sonic Reducer
Alive

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Indieffernece (WITH BEN)
Watchtower

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plus Ed preset

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Trouble, Dead Man Walking,

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I Used to Work In Chicago,

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All The Way, Picture In A Frame


looking at all that The VIC is clearly the winner by song rarity, however Bonaroo may go down as the most surprising show ever

Both had some awesome common songs, both pulled out some great covers, both pulled out some rarely played things (5 or under), both were amazing from any way you look at it. Should the Venue determine this if all else is even? If so you have to go with the VIC

I was there(VIC), not at roo, and I'll damn well say roo is dead even and I wish the fuck I was there

Cool idea to do this.

I would have to say it's pretty much even. Both set lists are unreal. I didn't go to either show so I don't what it was like to be there.

ledvedderman

The Vic wins easily. While Boneroo (what I call it since seeing the set) had a couple extreme rarieites (All Night, WMA, Watchtower), but the Vic from beginning to end were rare songs (except Why Go, WWS, Wishlist, and Gone).

hrd2imgn

Times played in parenthesis

Hard To Imagine(at both shows- 26th at VIC 27th Roo)
Why Go (at both shows)
Down(both shows- at 47 now)
Gone(both at 34 now)
Love Reign O'er Me (both 2nd and 3rd respectively)
No More (both 6th time and 9th)

ROO--All Night(1st ever)
VIC-- Black Diamond(1st time)
VIC-- I Used to Work In Chicago(1st)
VIC-- All The Way(1st)
VIC-- Trouble(3)
VIC-- undone (3rd time)
VIC-- Education(3rd time at that point)
VIC-- I'm Open(4th time)
VIC-- Picture In A Frame(4th)
ROO--Watchtower(5th)
VIC-- Dead Man Walking(8)
VIC-- All Or none(10th)
VIC-- Parachutes(14th)
VIC-- Low Light(20th)
ROO--Who You Are (29th)
VIC-- Sad (34th)
VIC-- Inside Job(34th at time)
VIC-- Rats(35th)
VIC-- God's Dice(39th at time)
ROO--1/2 Full(54th)
VIC-- Sonic Reducer(57)
VIC-- In Hiding(59th)
VIC-- Comatose(60)
ROO--W.M.A(75th but IN FULL more like 6th)
ROO--Severed Hand(82nd)
VIC-- WWS(85th)
VIC-- off he goes(90)
VIC-- Indieffernece (WITH BEN)(102)
ROO--Release (116 and in funky place)
ROO--Crazy Mary(119)
VIC-- Wishlist(179th at time)
ROO--Corduroy(380)
ROO--Elderly Woman(278)
ROO--Do The Evolution(317)
ROO--Animal (319)
ROO--Rearviewmirror(333)
ROO--Daughter(381)
ROO--Porch (398)
ROO--Better Man(Save)(354)
ROO--Black (417)
ROO--Alive (534)
ROO--Even Flow (611)

so by pure rarity of setlist the VIC, but by possibly best mix ever of rare and biggies gotta go ROO- also take into account the VIC had a lot off Avocado so the number for them are obviously lower

but I think Ed's pre-set puts the VIC over the top overall by a whisker from his bald chin

yes I have no life

Surf Rider

hrd2imgn wrote:

VIC-- I Used to Work In Chicago(1st)

Not a Pearl Jam show, but Ed has did this song before. Solo at the Bridge School.

Julien

i think Vic has a better setlist. more rarities.

Ledbetterman10

InHidingInOttawa wrote:

Debate...

No....

What do you think you're the teacher or something? Haha, this has always been a pet-peeve of mine on message boards; people who pose a question in a thread title and then only say "discuss" or "debate" in the post. But they don't state their own freakin' opinion on the subject! Hey, Mr. InHidingInOttawa, can I go to the lav after our debate assignment?

You tell me your opinion of the setlists and I'll tell ya mine.

hrd2imgn

I just used the fanclub tallies so ed solo shows are not included, nor are some presets.


see you all around!

Evolution6579

hrd2imgn wrote:

I just used the fanclub tallies so ed solo shows are not included, nor are some presets.

So why was Ed's preset used in that instance? FAIL

I think that the Bonnaroo set was better because they defintely won some fans last night. Oh wait......most of the fans here don't like the idea of Pearl Jam have new fans.

hrd2imgn

Evolution6579 wrote:

So why was Ed's preset used in that instance? FAIL

I think that the Bonnaroo set was better because they defintely won some fans last night. Oh wait......most of the fans here don't like the idea of Pearl Jam have new fans.

becase the official tenclub site lists it under the show's setlist that is why

so PASS

dude take your cynicism about fans on the pit somewhere else

edvedd

they are equally good imo.

nocode23

edvedd wrote:

they are equally good imo.

I would agree.:)

Solat13

edvedd wrote:

they are equally good imo.

Yep, I think they were both great. The Vic was an awesome experience I was glad to be in attendance for. And Roo definitely surprised me last night.

But I have to admit my alltime fav setlist is neither of these shows, but rather the Orpheum 4/12/94

Main Set:
Oceans, Even Flow, Sonic Reducer, State Of Love And Trust, Hard To Imagine, Immortality/(Hey Hey My My), Go, Animal, Glorified G, Daughter/(Suck You Dry), Alone, Not For You, Better Man, Rats, Blood

Encore:
Release, Tremor Christ, Once, Fuckin' Up, Dirty Frank, Yellow Ledbetter, Jam, Rearviewmirror, Elderly Woman Behind The Counter In A Small Town, I've Got a Feeling

jfconnorjr

- Vic very cool because it was 100% ten club. I am a cubs fan and Someday we will go all the way was wild.

- Bonnaroo very cool and better for the following reasons.....
1. Great mix of rare songs (all night, hard to imagine, WMA, etc.) for the ten club types.
2. Nailed the "best hits" for the 70,000 non ten club fans that are now exposed to what we all know is the best band ever.
3. Diverse crowd that was not busy debating the artistic virtues of No Code vs. Riot Act. Just thousands of people there to see a great show with an open mind..... and they loved it. People I camped near were saying it was top 5 shows they had seen..... ever.

That is why Roo was better than the vic (in my opinion)

BMoore09

bit off-topic, but was anyone REALLY worn out by the time the VIC show started? I know I was..I was out there at 9am and it was like 100 degrees. And ive lived in Florida all my life. I bought an umbrella, chairs, etc...

And I 'd be lying if I said it didnt take away from the show a little bit. I didnt have enough energy to jump around as much as I wanted to.

Anyways..just a thought. The good thing is, I dont feel as anxious anymore about being up close when I goto PJ shows, ever since the VIC and the ten feet I was from eddie and the boys. I dont think i'll ever have that intimate experience again with my favorite band. Now I just go and have a good time wherever I sit. I'll never forget it. Ever. (Even though I was exhausted) :-)

MarkerInTheSand

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Don't need no mom and dad
Don't need no pretty face
Don't need no human race
I got some news for you
Don't even need you too

Sonic Reducer FTW